You missed the point of that post really bad...FrankieSpankie3388 wrote:
Well the Blackhawk is a transport chopper so it should be used for transport. However, it could still be a strong force for capturing command posts if people actually want to try. Get 3-4 people in there and fly to a command post, they all bail out and the point is yours in ten seconds. It also has a nice amount of armor so you could get away if a tank or SRAW hits you. I think the problem is too many people were spoiled with the old version of the blackhawk and now they think it sucks, when it's really not that bad at all.Mouse315 wrote:
Its "Low and Behold"Phantom2828 wrote:
Lone behold
F35-b.
The 'b' stands for blackhawk, their only purpose is for transport.
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No, they should just go back to how the missiles worked with patch 1.12.
Edit:
Q: Wtf is up with the F35b
A: You have to be a really fucking skilled aviator to use it
Last edited by Fredrik (2006-11-20 18:59:58)
how about now
No I don't have minimal experience with Jets.Djbrown wrote:
All the smart pilots. yeah right more like all the j10 whores. I use the f35b every chance i get and the servers i play on are 24/7 wake with teamswap at end of each round. Youve just got to fly differently. its been posted before, but if im in the j10 i just go on a bombing rampage and if i ever get locked on by an f35 i dont even bother trying to dodge it as i know it will miss anyway. but when im in the f35 i go in a sort of bird-of-prey style mode where i keep a look out for everything that moves and if I ever see a j10 ill do a loop and come up behind him to shoot him down. if i flew low for bombing runs in the f35b id get shot down so fast i wouldnt be able to even get more than 5 kills before im dead.Phantom2828 wrote:
All the smart pilots myself included won't even touch that piece of crap F35.
What do you guys think?
And the f35 is superior to the j10 at high altitudes, i sometimes hang around 700m as the f35 reaches incredible speeds the j10 can never shoot me down when im at around 2500 kph. Also, if your good with a joystick, a mouse and keyboard using j10 pilot will haver a hard as hell time shooting you down at 500+m.Now your post proves that you have a minimal amount of experience in any jets. How can you claim 'good pilots, myself included' when you obviously have very little time to test the planes out and find counter-measures for each. Your pointless rant/whinge is probably the 50000th of its sort. So please for the love of god, dont start assuming that you were a better pilot than him, because if you were, you would have shot him down. NO QUESTIONS ABOUT IT.Wow that thing is a piece of shit.
What does EA have against American tech?
I was playing on wake and I was dog fighting against a J10 pilot, well I was much much better pilot than him, I stayed on his tail waited until he used his flares and constantly shot rockets at him when I was locked on. Lone behold they just flew right past him not even hitting, he wasn't even turning very sharp either.
Eventually I ran out of ammo and had to break.
Now wtf is up with this?!
Why not just make all the Jets equal (like the tanks) instead of having uber jets like the J10. It makes it a headache to even play US anymore when you want to fly. Even a little private with 10 minutes training can avoid missiles with the J10.
I am a very skilled pilot you should see some of my scores.
I was a MUCH better pilot than him because I could easily follow all his moves but even then my missiles would just fucking fly right by even when I had a solid lock.
Have you seen the stats for both planes? I didn't think so.
The F35b is inferior is just about every way to the other jets NO QUESTIONS ABOUT IT.
I guarantee I could take you on if you are in that piece of shit US jet.
I also just got done playing wake. Well now I am officially never playing US on wake when I feel like flying.
Again I could follow this guys moves so easily but the missiles would almost never hit. But if I even get locked on to for 2 fucking seconds I'm dead.
He might be talking about the different sizes of the tanks. Smaller profiles like the Type 98 and T-90 are harder to hit at longer ranges, compared to something like the Challenger 2 which is hard to miss since it's about twice the size as those two tanks.Des.Kmal wrote:
really? i havent had any problem taking out other tanks with either tank.ThomasMorgan wrote:
...the tanks aren't equal either, you know.
lol.
really?
You just contradict yourself within only 1 paragraph. If you were a skilled pilot, you should own with the f35b against the average j10 pilot. To never play US in wake when you feel like flying is the definition of a j10 whore. Getting good scores in the j10 is as easy as turning on my computer for me, but theres is a lot of skill and challenge to doing it in the f35. Again, if you were skilled you would have the common sense/skill to know that MG's are far more effective against j10s since missiles have about a 20% hit rate against them. and going into AA mode against one will send it into an immediate spin, youll never shoot it down by just hoping your missiles will hit.Phantom2828 wrote:
No I don't have minimal experience with Jets.
I am a very skilled pilot you should see some of my scores.
Well now I am officially never playing US on wake when I feel like flying.
Again I could follow this guys moves so easily but the missiles would almost never hit. But if I even get locked on to for 2 fucking seconds I'm dead.
Stop believing you are a very skilled pilot if you come here and whinge about getting owned. just remember theres always the very high chance he was better than you.
Remember if the enemy pilot is unaware and generally not very good, simply MG him down as hes going for a bombing run and DONT use missiles. And dont whinge about getting owned.
I didn't get "owned"Djbrown wrote:
You just contradict yourself within only 1 paragraph. If you were a skilled pilot, you should own with the f35b against the average j10 pilot. To never play US in wake when you feel like flying is the definition of a j10 whore. Getting good scores in the j10 is as easy as turning on my computer for me, but theres is a lot of skill and challenge to doing it in the f35. Again, if you were skilled you would have the common sense/skill to know that MG's are far more effective against j10s since missiles have about a 20% hit rate against them. and going into AA mode against one will send it into an immediate spin, youll never shoot it down by just hoping your missiles will hit.Phantom2828 wrote:
No I don't have minimal experience with Jets.
I am a very skilled pilot you should see some of my scores.
Well now I am officially never playing US on wake when I feel like flying.
Again I could follow this guys moves so easily but the missiles would almost never hit. But if I even get locked on to for 2 fucking seconds I'm dead.
Stop believing you are a very skilled pilot if you come here and whinge about getting owned. just remember theres always the very high chance he was better than you.
Remember if the enemy pilot is unaware and generally not very good, simply MG him down as hes going for a bombing run and DONT use missiles. And dont whinge about getting owned.
I said my missiles don't hit shit when they clearly should.
ALL the J10 has to do to COMPLETLY avoid every missile is turn.........that's it just a hard turn and you will not be touched.
O yes because MG'S are so effective *sarcasm*
LOLOLOLOLOL!!!! so your saying I should fly the F35b because its more of a challenge!!!!
Wow nice logic there, this plane sucks it can't kill shit but its better because you get killed so much its a challenge!!!
I am not resorting to these kind of desperation tactics when I should clearly be able to kill them just fine when I am locked on like they do to me.
So I am supposed to sneak up on him and MG him you say? Well if that's the only way I have a chance to get a kill I think I will stick to the J10.
what has bombing got to do with going head to head with a j10?rambo_killin_SOB wrote:
this is what i say to f-35b's sucking
http://img300.imageshack.us/img300/6458 … 080vp4.png
For the last time, Stop saying that you are a skilled pilot.Phantom2828 wrote:
I didn't get "owned"
I said my missiles don't hit shit when they clearly should.
ALL the J10 has to do to COMPLETLY avoid every missile is turn.........that's it just a hard turn and you will not be touched.
O yes because MG'S are so effective *sarcasm*
LOLOLOLOLOL!!!! so your saying I should fly the F35b because its more of a challenge!!!!
Wow nice logic there, this plane sucks it can't kill shit but its better because you get killed so much its a challenge!!!
I am not resorting to these kind of desperation tactics when I should clearly be able to kill them just fine when I am locked on like they do to me.
So I am supposed to sneak up on him and MG him you say? Well if that's the only way I have a chance to get a kill I think I will stick to the J10.
1) You come here whinging about something EVERYONE has allready discussed 10 times before
2) You dont realise that MG's can take down a jet in about 0.75 seconds
3) The f35b is just as capable as getting 60-0 in wake, just shoot down the j10s and z-10 and never let either of them leave the airfield again
4) You only get killed so often in the f35b becuase your no good in it.
please post a link to your stats so we can see how 'professional' you are then if your gonna talk yourself up like that
(2) MG's do not take jets down in .75 seconds. Even if they did its hard to get them with an mg when they can turn about twice as fast as you.Djbrown wrote:
For the last time, Stop saying that you are a skilled pilot.Phantom2828 wrote:
I didn't get "owned"
I said my missiles don't hit shit when they clearly should.
ALL the J10 has to do to COMPLETLY avoid every missile is turn.........that's it just a hard turn and you will not be touched.
O yes because MG'S are so effective *sarcasm*
LOLOLOLOLOL!!!! so your saying I should fly the F35b because its more of a challenge!!!!
Wow nice logic there, this plane sucks it can't kill shit but its better because you get killed so much its a challenge!!!
I am not resorting to these kind of desperation tactics when I should clearly be able to kill them just fine when I am locked on like they do to me.
So I am supposed to sneak up on him and MG him you say? Well if that's the only way I have a chance to get a kill I think I will stick to the J10.
1) You come here whinging about something EVERYONE has allready discussed 10 times before
2) You dont realise that MG's can take down a jet in about 0.75 seconds
3) The f35b is just as capable as getting 60-0 in wake, just shoot down the j10s and z-10 and never let either of them leave the airfield again
4) You only get killed so often in the f35b becuase your no good in it.
please post a link to your stats so we can see how 'professional' you are then if your gonna talk yourself up like that
(3) Just shoot down the J10's huh wow that sure explains a lot, man am I stupid I just have to shoot them down and SPAWN RAPE THEM! Which is a pussy tactic. I will not sink that low as to rape the shit out of their spawn just because they can beat me in the air.
(4) No I get killed more often in the F35b because it has a lower flight ceiling, drastically wider turns, and slower speed. Which just so happens to be the things you need to effectively dog fight.
(2) MG`s do take down jets in .75 sek, but yes it`s hard to do, thats why DjBrown brought up skills.
(3) Is it any worse to bomb a plane on the ground than a car?
(4) Yes, some things in bf2 are harder to do than other, but there`s a lot of good advices in this thread, and it looks like you havent read any of them really, and just made this thread to whine.
(3) Is it any worse to bomb a plane on the ground than a car?
(4) Yes, some things in bf2 are harder to do than other, but there`s a lot of good advices in this thread, and it looks like you havent read any of them really, and just made this thread to whine.
The F35 should definetly be better to at least be able to closely match the J-10...
No I have read them all and taken them into consideration.
BUT the fact remains that no amount of advice or skill will make my missiles hit that fucking J10 that is turning.
NO amount of skill or tactics will make me turn any tighter or fly faster.
And yet again I refuse to spawn rape the planes.
I will also say again I bet I can take any of these so called F35b experts in a dogfight when I have my J10.
If you are interested tell me and we will set up a match over Xfire.
BUT the fact remains that no amount of advice or skill will make my missiles hit that fucking J10 that is turning.
NO amount of skill or tactics will make me turn any tighter or fly faster.
And yet again I refuse to spawn rape the planes.
I will also say again I bet I can take any of these so called F35b experts in a dogfight when I have my J10.
If you are interested tell me and we will set up a match over Xfire.
Both the F35 & the J-10 were nerfed in an earlier patch, then in a later patch the J-10 was 'un-nerfed' somewhat more than the F35. It was a coding error that EA have tried to rectify but as far as I am aware have thrown into the 'too hard basket'.
I prefer to fly the F35 these days however as its a challenge, & I still shoot down my fair share of J-10's.
But I'd rather that than fly a J-10 that requires no skill at all to rack up a good score. To me thats just boring.
I prefer to fly the F35 these days however as its a challenge, & I still shoot down my fair share of J-10's.
But I'd rather that than fly a J-10 that requires no skill at all to rack up a good score. To me thats just boring.
must...resist....posting...in...emo...threads
Oh hell, look mate you CAN hit the J10 when its turning, dont just whine and piss how J10s are so superior, and if you dont ever get into another F35 then you are not going to learn how so quit snivelling and take the punishment until you do find out
plenty in this thread suggested you do this, albeit in different ways, yes its a challenge but whining on a message board isnt going to get you there is it?
Otherwise just carry on posting your whinges and have everyone that is prepared to put in the time (and the deaths) figuring it out laugh at you.
Oh hell, look mate you CAN hit the J10 when its turning, dont just whine and piss how J10s are so superior, and if you dont ever get into another F35 then you are not going to learn how so quit snivelling and take the punishment until you do find out
plenty in this thread suggested you do this, albeit in different ways, yes its a challenge but whining on a message board isnt going to get you there is it?
Otherwise just carry on posting your whinges and have everyone that is prepared to put in the time (and the deaths) figuring it out laugh at you.
I don't care so much about F35s Lack of Evading... But the SPAWN TIMES are way to large. Its as though EA things the F35 is the greatest vehicle and needs 50 seconds to respawn... Expecially on maps like Wake where theres only 1 Spawn Location...give me a Break, It should respawn every 20 seconds.
IMO F35b>J-10. F-35 has a faster roll rate, letting you maneuver faster AND it accelerates faster. I pwn J-10 fanboy noobs.
Your opinion is shite then. The J10 owns the F35. Period. If it's an expert pilot in the J10, you're toast. If it's a soso pilot in the J10 you have a shot. Just get behind them, and if they juke you, go straight up to like 500 feet and fly around til you spot them again. MG's MG's MG's. Don't even let them hear the missile lock tone. You'd have a better chance throwing rocks from the cockpit than hoping the missiles will hit.Pernicious544 wrote:
IMO F35b>J-10. F-35 has a faster roll rate, letting you maneuver faster AND it accelerates faster. I pwn J-10 fanboy noobs.
So once again.....
Try to get behind them.
If they turn too tight and you lose them, go STRAIGHT UP.
Fly in circles at 500 feet until you spot the jet again.
Rinse and repeat.
If you get a j10 on your ass, try straight up and bail. Usually they will follow the jet until they stall out. Or turn as hard as you can and have the "OH SHIT'' moment just waiting for those missiles to send you happily on your way to 15 seconds of reflective anger.
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A faster roll rate lol rolling does not break missile locks now does it.Pernicious544 wrote:
IMO F35b>J-10. F-35 has a faster roll rate, letting you maneuver faster AND it accelerates faster. I pwn J-10 fanboy noobs.
You can accelerate all you want but that missle lock goes out pretty far....
Ok from now on any of these tards that come into my thread saying I'm a whiny little baby that can't fly I challenge you to a dogfight on wake when I have the J10, we shall see how bad of a pilot I am.
F18 does hold up well against the J10. Though a skilled J10 pilot usually will win. I find the the F35B does fairly well versus the Mig29. Atleast I can hold my own against it. If you don't kill the J10 when you have a chance your toast.E|W4v0r wrote:
But US gets the F18... F18>J10 imo
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Can I remind you that I said you were a whiny baby that needs to practice the F35 more so you can take advantage of the J10 weaknesses? Petulence will not give you those skills.Phantom2828 wrote:
Ok from now on any of these tards that come into my thread saying I'm a whiny little baby that can't fly I challenge you to a dogfight on wake when I have the J10, we shall see how bad of a pilot I am.
I make no argument about the balance, I think the J10 is a little overpowered vs the F35 but its NOT invincible, however it will cost you many deaths figuring out how to take them down.
So take the punishment and learn or continue to entertain us with your crying, its your choice.
lol. Seriously, just lol. If any of the above posters are serious pilots in ladders/clans you should leave.
Nope. T90 > M1A1, the Abrams can be one hit.ThomasMorgan wrote:
...the tanks aren't equal either, you know.
And I would like to add that the F35 takes like a second slower to lock on. THAT'S what kills it for me.
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http://www.phantom2828.justgotowned.com/
HAHAHA sums this thread up.
HAHAHA sums this thread up.
Last edited by TheMackumSlayer (2006-11-21 12:11:19)
You have to learn the rules of the game and then you have to play better than anyone else.