BF2S Forums Should Homosexuals be allowed to have kids??

Gawwad wrote:

JimG wrote:

Gawwad wrote:

I have nothing against homosexuals or homosexuality. I'm all in for gay marriage but there is just one thing I don't think is good. Having two fathers and no mother. I can't see how it would not change how the child gows up. So no, I do not support gay couples, be it women or men, having kids.

It's my honest opinion and how I feel about it. As I said before, I do not have a problem with homosexuality.

Does this mean your for lesbians having children but not male homosexuals?

Ok, please atleast read what you're commenting on.

Since some people seem to have a hard time with reading I say it once again:

I have nothing against homosexuals or homosexuality. I do have a problem with letting gay couples have children.

my bad

..teddy..jimmy wrote:

JimG wrote:

Kurazoo wrote:

They shouldnt have kids the sick bastards, gays have mental problems

Thanks for sharing your backward thoughts

Have you even bothered to find out about where this person is from and what his culture is like before commenting on his thoughts.? He may have these thoughts because he grew up in a society which influenced his thoughts.

I'm sorry if i take strongly to such insulting comments, as I do think for one this is the kind of talk which stains good and proper debates.

JimG wrote:

Homosexuals should at the very least have the exact same rights as everyone else on this planet, yes? So why not the right to have children.. When you bring in the facts proving everything your saying happens in the entire world and not JUST the US, then maybe you can generalize as you are doing.

Homosexuals should at the very least have the exact same rights as everyone else on this planet, yes? So why not the right to have children..

Why not? Simple, because their children will not have the same rights as everyone else.

When you bring in the facts proving everything your saying happens in the entire world and not JUST the US, then maybe you can generalize as you are doing.

This doesn't happen in JUST THE US, it happens in much of the modernized world. In addition, it also happens in other cultures because gay marriages in itself is not accepted.

Absolutely. the end..

jord wrote:

JimG wrote:

Maybe teddy...jimmmy.. should try and stick to the matter at hand instead of moving to personal insults and agression to me.

I couldn't see an insult,Teddy seems to be presenting coherent points.



You registered on my birthday,which is today.

He merely pointed out a fact which you yourself had already done. Do you not also believe that calling gays sick bastards is wrong? and saying that they are mentally retarded is wrong aswell?

jord wrote:

JimG wrote:

Maybe teddy...jimmmy.. should try and stick to the matter at hand instead of moving to personal insults and agression to me.

I couldn't see an insult,Teddy seems to be presenting coherent points.



You registered on my birthday,which is today.

He merely pointed out a fact which you yourself had already done. Do you not also believe that calling gays sick bastards is wrong? and saying that they are mentally retarded is wrong aswell?

Happy Birthday

JimG wrote:

jord wrote:

JimG wrote:

Maybe teddy...jimmmy.. should try and stick to the matter at hand instead of moving to personal insults and agression to me.

I couldn't see an insult,Teddy seems to be presenting coherent points.



You registered on my birthday,which is today.

He merely pointed out a fact which you yourself had already done. Do you not also believe that calling gays sick bastards is wrong? and saying that they are mentally retarded is wrong aswell?

It may be wrong in your society because you were brought up to belive gays should be accepted. This fellow might have grown up in, for example, the middle east where gay marriages and gays having children is unheard of and frowned upon.

..teddy..jimmy wrote:

JimG wrote:

Homosexuals should at the very least have the exact same rights as everyone else on this planet, yes? So why not the right to have children.. When you bring in the facts proving everything your saying happens in the entire world and not JUST the US, then maybe you can generalize as you are doing.

Homosexuals should at the very least have the exact same rights as everyone else on this planet, yes? So why not the right to have children..

Why not? Simple, because their children will not have the same rights as everyone else.

When you bring in the facts proving everything your saying happens in the entire world and not JUST the US, then maybe you can generalize as you are doing.

This doesn't happen in JUST THE US, it happens in much of the modernized world. In addition, it also happens in other cultures because gay marriages in itself is not accepted.

I think you'll find that in Holland, gay marriage is accepted, as it is in the UK. What you have been saying applies in majority in the US. And still you do not bring in any hard facts, just opinions. The only reason gay peoples children don't have the same rights are because people like yourself are against reforms being made to change their rights. If more gays got children the laws would change.

I don't think gay couples (legally married or not) should be parents.  I actually believe homosexual behavior is bad (just as fornication is bad) and to raise a child and condone such behavior is to start a child off poorly.  I believe children should be raised by two loving parents..a mother and a father because each parent performs important, vital roles in the nuturing and growth of the child.  Further, it is a commandment to multiply and replenish the earth.  With gay parents, this shows lack of respect for that commandment as they cannot fulfill this commandment themselves.

I have a pair of lesbians I work with, both have become pregnant and are raising two adorable little girls.  Both these women are excellent people and I treat them as i would heterosexual people, respectively.  But in thinking of the difference in upbringing my little girl will have vs. what their little girls will have, I'm saddened at the thought of those little girls being raised by two homosexual women and the things she will not learn..and of the things she WILL learn.

Bertster7 wrote:

I think it should be possible (but slightly more difficult) for gays to adopt children. Better to be brought up by a loving gay family than in a foster home or orphanage. I don't approve of gay marriage, but think gay civil partnerships with equal rights to marriage are a good idea. I just don't like the idea of it being called marriage.

..teddy..jimmy wrote:

Should homosexuals be allowed to have children through IVF even though the child will probably be bullied and stigmatized at school?

Last edited by ..teddy..jimmy (2006-11-21 09:09:10)

IRONCHEF wrote:

I don't think gay couples (legally married or not) should be parents.  I actually believe homosexual behavior is bad (just as fornication is bad) and to raise a child and condone such behavior is to start a child off poorly.  I believe children should be raised by two loving parents..a mother and a father because each parent performs important, vital roles in the nuturing and growth of the child.  Further, it is a commandment to multiply and replenish the earth.  With gay parents, this shows lack of respect for that commandment as they cannot fulfill this commandment themselves.

I have a pair of lesbians I work with, both have become pregnant and are raising two adorable little girls.  Both these women are excellent people and I treat them as i would heterosexual people, respectively.  But in thinking of the difference in upbringing my little girl will have vs. what their little girls will have, I'm saddened at the thought of those little girls being raised by two homosexual women and the things she will not learn..and of the things she WILL learn.

There's no reason to believe that just because their parents are homosexual that they will be brought up so much different then your future children. Gays want to be normal, and will probably bring up their children with liberal and accepting views. Just because they are brought up without a father (in this case) it doesnt mean they will have no male influence in their life. Just because the girls parents are gay won't mean the children will be gay.

IRONCHEF wrote:

I don't think gay couples (legally married or not) should be parents.  I actually believe homosexual behavior is bad (just as fornication is bad) and to raise a child and condone such behavior is to start a child off poorly.  I believe children should be raised by two loving parents..a mother and a father because each parent performs important, vital roles in the nuturing and growth of the child.  Further, it is a commandment to multiply and replenish the earth.  With gay parents, this shows lack of respect for that commandment as they cannot fulfill this commandment themselves.

I have a pair of lesbians I work with, both have become pregnant and are raising two adorable little girls.  Both these women are excellent people and I treat them as i would heterosexual people, respectively.  But in thinking of the difference in upbringing my little girl will have vs. what their little girls will have, I'm saddened at the thought of those little girls being raised by two homosexual women and the things she will not learn..and of the things she WILL learn.

I completely agree with you. Yes, I desire equal human rights for all but it is very important to think about the child they are bringing into society.

i don't think you can think of having children as a right for homos, i just think that the children will suffer and lack some input from men if it's lesbians and the other way around. i don't have anything against homos and them marrying i just think that it's sad for their child.