BF2S Forums Why do people complain about IO?

notice how vehichle whores complain about IO yet IO playerts dont complain about vehichles....hmmmmmmm....

That first sentence sums it up. This is battlefield, not counterstrike, and I would have much rather them make new game modes such as capture the flag then making all the people that bitch about vehicle whores happy.

=W=GeneralSherman wrote:

notice how vehichle whores complain about IO yet IO playerts dont complain about vehichles....hmmmmmmm....

IO players did not complain about Vehicles? Then how do you think IO was introduced?

I like both. IO is much easier there really is no threats besides the nade fest.

stop whining about IO, it sucks and we all know it...

[Hive]-Twist wrote:

']['error wrote:

stop whining about IO, it sucks and we all know it...

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With most of your kills in jet and tank, we can understand you hate IO.

Nice little edit there.

I'm roughly 50-50 with vehicles,but if they are going to make an infantry only mode they should of made a vehicle only mode.

Also,don't be a coward and edit your insults out.

Also,don't be a coward and edit your insults out.

Meh, I wasnt sure if it was in the rules or not to insult someone, so I took it off.

[Hive]-Twist wrote:

']['error wrote:

stop whining about IO, it sucks and we all know it...

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With most of your kills in jet and tank, we can understand you hate IO.

78% of all my kills are in vehicles

get in my server and my bombs, shells, missiles, heavy rounds will find you
oh god i love vehicles hehe ^^ zomfg vehicle whore

Why do people complain about IO? Because bitching about things they don't like is lots of people's primary forum activity; but whatever you do don't bitch about something they do... oh no, the rules are different then.

Why do people who prefer air maps have to play on servers that have boring-ass city maps in their cycle? Whereas people who like grunt combat time get to play city maps only or IO?

I don't like IO for the following reasons:

1) It's completely against the spirit of what made the Battlefield series what it is. The interaction between vehicles and infantry or vital to the balance and strategy found in this game. New players to Battlefield 2 will get a very warped impression of what this series is about.

2) It's hurt the overall server listing for players like me. Ranked servers are expensive and server owners don't want to lay down 250 bucks a month only to have an empty useless server. So more and more ranked server owners are switching to lame ass settings like "24/7 Karkand IO FF=OFF" simply to get the server full. All the while my list of viable servers to play on shrinks and shrinks. Not to mention the pro-vehicle players are now in much higher concentration on the non-IO servers and so the competition to get your vehicle of choice is much higher (and all of the negative elements that go with that such as having half a team of useless players sitting at the vehicle spawns).

3) People don't play IO for fun, they play it for points. It's pretty simple that if you play on IO you're SPM will almost double (in the case of some players, triple), your KDR will rise quickly and all other infantry related statistics will improve. This point motivation  was very clear during the 1.4 beta patch. People could play IO right then and there but you know what? Every single 1.4 IO beta server was empty because they weren't recording points. I saw countless threads asking people if the 1.4 beta IO servers were recording points - so needless to say the vast majority of IO players intentions were more than obvious.

4) It screws up the Battlefield 2 statistics system. No I'm not a stat whore. But you know what, I enjoy measuring my own personal progress and comparing it with other players. But in IO you can get a much higher SPM (I do about 9SPM in the short time I spent testing IO). So it's really no fair for players who compete in a RANKED system to have to switch over and play IO n00b mode simply to compete on an equal footing.

5) DICE wasted time creating IO. The aircraft still have horrible balance, countless bugs still plague the game, nasty server crashes, griefing other players is still far too easy. Having any one of the aforementioned fix would've made the game much more enjoyable for me but DICE just -had- to spend time on this crappy alternate gameplay mode that nobody asked for (initially at least).

I could go on and on but it's clear IO mode has been a very negative addition to the Battlefield series.

Ah, how I wish for the days of 1.3 again.. I had warlord, which is perfect for infantry whores. Then 1.4 came along and gave us infantry while ironically ruining it at the same time.

PlaneWhore wrote:

1) It's completely against the spirit of what made the Battlefield series what it is. The interaction between vehicles and infantry or vital to the balance and strategy found in this game. New players to Battlefield 2 will get a very warped impression of what this series is about.

I agree with you here. IO is much different from regular Conquest mode, and since the game places so much emphasis on the statistics system, it doesn't make sense to account for statistics drawn from game modes that are fundamentally different from the original. It delegitimizes those statistics, just as allowing mods to be ranked would delegitimize them.

2) It's hurt the overall server listing for players like me. Ranked servers are expensive and server owners don't want to lay down 250 bucks a month only to have an empty useless server. So more and more ranked server owners are switching to lame ass settings like "24/7 Karkand IO FF=OFF" simply to get the server full. All the while my list of viable servers to play on shrinks and shrinks.

Are you sure this isn't because of the release of 2142 and the subsequent decrease in all kinds of BF2 servers? I've noticed that the number of servers overall has dwindled since 2142.

3) People don't play IO for fun, they play it for points.

I don't play it for points (as evidenced by the fact that I think it should be unranked). I play it for fun. And I don't find it all that fun, so I don't play it all that often. And I play 80% of the game with my feet on the ground.

4) It screws up the Battlefield 2 statistics system.

Agreed.

5) DICE wasted time creating IO. The aircraft still have horrible balance, countless bugs still plague the game, nasty server crashes, griefing other players is still far too easy. Having any one of the aforementioned fix would've made the game much more enjoyable for me but DICE just -had- to spend time on this crappy alternate gameplay mode that nobody asked for (initially at least).

Do you really think all the bugs would have been fixed if DICE hadn't spent time programming IO? It doesn't seem like it would have taken that long to just remove the vehicles from all the maps. Also, I think you're putting more faith into DICE's programming abilities than they deserve.

I could go on and on but it's clear IO mode has been a very negative addition to the Battlefield series.

A negative addition? I don't know about that. I think the main problem is that it shouldn't be ranked since it is, essentially, a mod; or, it could have separate statistics, but this would require additional programming.