Drunken_Tankdriver
Member
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Ok i know some admins dont know this trick here so i'm gonna lay it out for you the best I can and hopefully it will do some good.


This here lame wannabe hacker that keeps polluting these forums with his definative guides to hiding like a pussy on wake island? You guys cant seem to get rid of this guy. His trick to circumventing your bans can be one of three things. #1 he has a dynamic ip address. This is common with dialup & dsl users. #2 is that he uses a proxy server. not much you can do here except for digging out all the proxy ip lists you can find off of hacker sites or wherever you can manage to find them and add them to your forum ban list. #3 is that he is a cable customer with a static ip address. all he does is simply resets his modem to get a new ip from his service provider. Typically in this situation the dhcp server only deals with a small amount of ip addresses in a given town if its small or, one side of town for a large city, not the entire state or network itself. With that said, this may or may not apply to users like aol where their ip changes every time they change a web page. I think this does apply to dsl too, i'm not sure, i dont study networks that hard.


Anyway to cut to the chase here grab this nifty little tool called neo ip tracer. This tool gives a graphical traceroute and shows all the servers this ip has to go through to get to you. It stops at the last major server that this user connects with near where he lives, such as some server in his nearby city. Ok once you run the trace with neo ip tracer there is a panel you click on and it shows you the ip range for that particular area that this user lives in. Lets say that his ISP is comcast and their full network range is 65.32.0.0 - 68.58.255.255 (numbers are not exact, this is just an example) and say this idiot lives in the small town of dayton, ohio. The local server there contains a range of 66.44.44.44 - 67.255.255.255. Wheather this user has dsl or cable his ip can be somewhere within this range, thats a shitload of combonations. So all you do is grab the general range for the location at which his ip traces back to and enter it into the ban list as a range like i just showed in the example. I dont know if phpbb accepts a range entry like that but i know invision powerboard does. I assume phpbb does too. Now with invision i know you can use wildcard combonations with your IP entries to ban anything that starts with 66.44 or something. Again, this is for you guys, whoever is in charge of banning users here to figure out how to make this work. I'm not familiar with the phpbb admin panel.


Now, the only problem with this is you risk banning innocent users. I had a scenario once when I was an admin at a forum, this kid lived in california. I needed to ban this kid from our forum. he evaded the bans so i did this very trick right here and i banned him, he was suprised he couldnt get on anymore. Well, once i did that it turns out his friend that lives next door got banned too. He was another forum user, so, i had to unban the range so his innocent next door neighbor could get on. When you enter a range like this you generally ban users from just that town or that side of town though. Anyway thats something to think about if you do this, but anyway you solve the problem. If anyone has any problems with this they will find a way to get back onto this site and let you know of the problem im sure.


Anyway there you go, I hope this is useful information to someone here.

Last edited by Drunken_Tankdriver (2006-12-14 22:52:34)

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SilentscoutIX
BF2s US Server Admin
+91|6823|Vancouver, BC, Canada
If this works you will get lots of +1's.
ozghost
Mr piss EVERYONE off
+48|7145|Kangarooland

Drunken_Tankdriver wrote:

Anyway there you go, I hope this is useful information to someone here.
only to the 'wanna be hackers'.  Old news and several ways around it.  If you have an interest in this sort of thing though you should check out some network administration forums/websites.

This isn't a guide, its one opinion on one product.

No offence. You had the best intentions.
some_random_panda
Flamesuit essential
+454|6826

Mass banning.  What's I've always wanted.
+1 if anyone else confirms this.
Drunken_Tankdriver
Member
+81|7087

ozghost wrote:

Drunken_Tankdriver wrote:

Anyway there you go, I hope this is useful information to someone here.
only to the 'wanna be hackers'.  Old news and several ways around it.  If you have an interest in this sort of thing though you should check out some network administration forums/websites.

This isn't a guide, its one opinion on one product.

No offence. You had the best intentions.
One product? I'm not jiving up for neo ip tracer, thats just the tool i used to obtain the information i wanted. I dont think mr birdman has enough skill to get around the way i suggest to ban him.
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Doctor Strangelove
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Cougar
Banned
+1,962|7200|Dallas
Thanks for telling me how to get around bans from now on. 

No really, thanks.

*EDIT*

Ohh and BTW, it from the sounds of it, how he's getting around bans and the such, he is using the same program (or one like it) called MAC Makeup.  It allows you to change your MAC address and therfore, your IP address.  You can also set it to automatically change the address every couple of hours or everyday, which ever you see fit.  It does the ipconfig /release and /renew automatically so you don't have to bother.  The only problem is, that if you are in the middle of doing something (Gaming), you lose connection.

So yeah, the only thing moderators can really do is erase accounts and ban subnets.

Last edited by Cougar (2006-12-15 04:50:13)

Jestar
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Are you sure that you got the title of this thread Right?
Krauser98
Extra Green Please!
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Jestar12345 wrote:

Are you sure that you got the title of this thread Right?
I was thinking the same thing when I was reading it last night on my PSP.  I thought to myself, "Well, I guess DT isn't going to be around much longer if he's going to call moderators names and such..."
Drunken_Tankdriver
Member
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Krauser98 wrote:

Jestar12345 wrote:

Are you sure that you got the title of this thread Right?
I was thinking the same thing when I was reading it last night on my PSP.  I thought to myself, "Well, I guess DT isn't going to be around much longer if he's going to call moderators names and such..."
Since when am i calling anyone names in this thread? The meaning for my topic is a guide for moderators to control asshats. I'm not trying to call any moderators names in this thread. Just trying to be helpful.

Last edited by Drunken_Tankdriver (2006-12-15 09:02:44)

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Krauser98
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Drunken_Tankdriver wrote:

Krauser98 wrote:

Jestar12345 wrote:

Are you sure that you got the title of this thread Right?
I was thinking the same thing when I was reading it last night on my PSP.  I thought to myself, "Well, I guess DT isn't going to be around much longer if he's going to call moderators names and such..."
Since when am i calling anyone names in this thread? The meaning for my topic is a guide for moderators to control asshats. I'm not trying to call any moderators names in this thread. Just trying to be helpful.
Easy killer.  I was trying to say that I misunderstood the meaning of the title of this thread.  I saw "guide" + "mods" + "Asshat control" and in my mind = "DT thinks mods are asshats w/ too much control".  It's my fault I misread the title, I'm the asshat.  (but you all knew that right?)  I realized I was wrong when I read your post.
Drunken_Tankdriver
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lol
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Yaocelotl
:D
+221|7085|Keyboard
Read it and seen that this is not definitive. Nice try though.
Kung Jew
That one mod
+331|7181|Houston, TX
Interesting... hmmm.... Chuy, when you read this, PM me with your thoughts on Permaban with a wildcard suffix.  Maybe we could ban all the members in... say.... New York.  No.  Too small.  Statewide? Countrywide maybe? 

I got it.  Every one between the letters a thru x.  But leave the y's and z's alone. Or pehaps continental bannings?

DT interesting tactic, but would lead to too many users getting the undeserved ban.

KJ
General Custer
Banned
+6|6788
Kung Jew says no so it's not going to happen.

He is Jewish. and Chinese. And a Mod.


apparently.
Drunken_Tankdriver
Member
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Kung Jew wrote:

Interesting... hmmm.... Chuy, when you read this, PM me with your thoughts on Permaban with a wildcard suffix.  Maybe we could ban all the members in... say.... New York.  No.  Too small.  Statewide? Countrywide maybe? 

I got it.  Every one between the letters a thru x.  But leave the y's and z's alone. Or pehaps continental bannings?

DT interesting tactic, but would lead to too many users getting the undeserved ban.

KJ
All depends on where this guys from. if he lives in a small town you probably wont loose alot of members, if any.
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Prodie
Moderator Emeritus
+270|7210|Nova Scotia, Canada

Heh, good idea, but I love banning him!
Krauser98
Extra Green Please!
+53|7265|USA! USA! USA!
What would happen, in theory, if you were to put a wildcard at the beginning of the IP instead of the end?
Drunken_Tankdriver
Member
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You would ban everything.
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mcminty
Moderating your content for the Australian Govt.
+879|7157|Sydney, Australia
That's a good idea to get rid of that fuckwit ("Birdman" was the original). But aside from banning the innocent, Prodie has a good point.


Mcminty.
Krauser98
Extra Green Please!
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hint hint...  (i'm telling you, there's got to be a way to create a [joke] BBCode...)

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