E7IX3R
is drunk and crazy
+216|7165|UK
I am angry now.

Because I was playing a map. First round finished 5th with I think 18 Kills with a sniper rifle.

Next round I finished last with 3 kills.

But in that round I must have hit 4-5 guys in the head straight away and they didn't die..only for someone to kill him and I get "Kill Assist" or whatever it is.

I hit 6 guys 3-4 times in torso (they were running) and still dont die.

EA really need to sort out the power of the rifle.

It can shoot through amoured chopper glass but cant kill a fucking human in one shot?

It fires a .50 cal bullet ffs and they carry on running like there's no tomorrow.

WANKERS.
Ryan
Member
+1,230|7320|Alberta, Canada

are you sure you hit them? haha
E7IX3R
is drunk and crazy
+216|7165|UK
well the cross hairs were dead on them every single time.

this happens a lot.
Empty36
Member
+0|7171
you're probably just bad at sniping....the sniper rifles in bf2 aren't like fucken cs or dod where you can pull off crazy shit
DSRTurtle
Member
+56|7163
I have to agree. Specially the M95.  1 shot = 1 kill.  There is something not right when you hit a target dead center in the torso and it doesn't die.  Also it should penetrate the glass on every chopper in the game except for maybe the Apache Longbow.

Last edited by DSRTurtle (2006-01-07 17:53:05)

Kobrakai
Weirdo
+152|7265|England
Bf2 would be shit if there was a 1 shot kill sniper rifle. Its easy enough to use the sniper rifles we have at the moment.

I hate snipers.
DSRTurtle
Member
+56|7163
That's the way it is in the real world.
E7IX3R
is drunk and crazy
+216|7165|UK

Empty36 wrote:

you're probably just bad at sniping....the sniper rifles in bf2 aren't like fucken cs or dod where you can pull off crazy shit
maybe I am not the best at sniping, but when an enemy is lying there without you even knowing you've got your xhair dead on him and hit him, he should die. no doubts. Maybe if he's hit in the arm or leg then another shot would be needed to finish him off, but a torso + head shot should be 1 shot 1 kill. I'm only sniping to get my badges.

Otherwise I use the support kit or the assult kit
WormGuts
Member
+17|7271|Dayton, Ohio
if you want a one shot one kill sniper rifle go play css.  otherwise learn to accept and use what you're given by EA.
WormGuts
Member
+17|7271|Dayton, Ohio

E7IX3R wrote:

Empty36 wrote:

you're probably just bad at sniping....the sniper rifles in bf2 aren't like fucken cs or dod where you can pull off crazy shit
maybe I am not the best at sniping, but when an enemy is lying there without you even knowing you've got your xhair dead on him and hit him, he should die. no doubts. Maybe if he's hit in the arm or leg then another shot would be needed to finish him off, but a torso + head shot should be 1 shot 1 kill. I'm only sniping to get my badges.

Otherwise I use the support kit or the assult kit
perhaps you were not accounting for bullet drop and didn't actually hit them in the head but another area instead.
E7IX3R
is drunk and crazy
+216|7165|UK

Kobrakai wrote:

Bf2 would be shit if there was a 1 shot kill sniper rifle. Its easy enough to use the sniper rifles we have at the moment.

I hate snipers.
BF2's aim is to recreate modern warfare. That's just like saying the GL shouldn't be 1 shot 1 kill, cause in real life it would fuck you up, if you were hit in the chest with a .50 cal bullet you'd have a hole in your chest and die. simple as.
E7IX3R
is drunk and crazy
+216|7165|UK
no one said it was one shot one kill. but it should be. even if its in the torso. two shots at least.  not 3-4
Ty
Mass Media Casualty
+2,398|7252|Noizyland

When you say that you shot them in the head but someone else killed them and you got a kill assist? Yeah... uh... you didn't shoot them in the head.

Sniper rifles in BF2 should never ever be made one shot kill. It's be like GL problems times 1000. Sure there are some imperfections*, but the Sniper rifle isn't the only gun. What about pistols; you have to shoot someone twice in the face before they'll die. I'm pretty sure that one bullet would normally do the trick. I may be mistaken of course, I havn't actually tried it.

A one-shot kill weapon has proven to be an annoyance - look at the GLs. One-shot-kill sniper-rifles would be worse, as you get more ammo, re-loading is faster, it has a scope, you don't have to worry about a parabolaic arch and it would take all the skill out of sniping. Imagine just running around a corner to be killed in one shot from a sniper at point blank. That is not what snipers do, but would be seriously exploited ingame. Sure being a Sniper is a hard job, it is for people who are talented and/or practised. You can't simply pick up a sniper kit and expect to be good.

Good news though, in the upcoming patch they will be improving the accuracy of the rifles, probably meaning that the bullets will no longer fly sideways but only be effected by bullet drop and target movement, like real sniper rifles are, (thankfully wind direction air temperature and air pressure don't effect snipers ingame, that would just be too damn hard.)

So I close by saying, fuck the real world. I have fun when I get a skilled headshot. A guy at full health dies with one shot because I used my skill to plant it there. I don't care if the real M95 is a one hit kill weapon, or that the guy I hit in the torso carries on running. It'd be an annoyance to me in game when I'm trying to have fun, that I limp everytime someone shoots me in the leg, or I bend over and cough blood if I'm shot. That's real world too, but would take away the fun of something that is a game.


Edit: And if you're shooting them 3 or 4 times with an M95, or M24, they're either healing themselves fast as you shoot them in the torso, or you hit them once and miss the rest of the time. If neither is the case, the M24 and M95 do take at most two hits to take down anyone.

*Other innacuracy's include.
- Defribulators that bring people back from the dead. People shot in the head or heart arn't going to be brought back by an electric shock.
- Wrenches fixing everything, even broken planks of wood, or explosion holes. No-one's that good.
- Medic bags that heal everything, simply by absorbing into a soldier's shoe.
- Entering veichles, turning on and are ready to drive in less than a second. Samegoes for getting out.
- The Grenade Launches exploding as soon as they leave the tube. Grenades have a fuse to make sure the firer isn't hurt.
- C4 packs being used as grenades. That much C4 would wipe out a lot of a map. One of those cubes would probably wipe out those two unfinished buildings in Sharqui to put things in perspective.
- A driver in a tank being able to repair an APC that is near to him. same goes for medics and suppot guys doing the same thing.
- Shooting a wall with a tank round will generally bring the wall down, or at least damage them. Same goes for C4, AT rockets, TOWs, and numerous other explosives.
- .50 cal sniper bulelts don't kill people in one shot, or at least take off a leg or arm or something.

I could go on for ages. As you can see, none of these innacuracies matter, and having them actually adds to the fun of the gaming experience.

Hell, I didn't think I'd write so much...

Last edited by Tyferra (2006-01-07 18:43:45)

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DSRTurtle
Member
+56|7163
a .50 cal bullet leaves a big mess behind.  If your not dead instantly you won't be running around in combat from one.
Rizen_Ji
Member
+41|7213|200m out and smiling at you.
learn to freaking aim if u didn't hit him the first shot then don't bother and pull out ur pistol to finish him... either that or actually aim for his head instead of scoping and pulling the trigger...
E7IX3R
is drunk and crazy
+216|7165|UK

DSRTurtle wrote:

a .50 cal bullet leaves a big mess behind.  If your not dead instantly you won't be running around in combat from one.
look on ogrish.com for the picture of a person who got shot with a .50 cal bullet.

it's in war archives.

talk about losing your head on the battlefield.
chitlin
Banned
+36|7240
this is a game not real life .. if you wanted to start another convo about whats not accurate in bf2 we could be here all day .. for reason of game balancing its good how it is now .. either hit them in the head or hit them 2x they will die
Tushers
Noctwisaskfirtush
+224|7162|Some where huntin in Wisconsin

DSRTurtle wrote:

I have to agree. Specially the M95.  1 shot = 1 kill.  There is something not right when you hit a target dead center in the torso and it doesn't die.  Also it should penetrate the glass on every chopper in the game except for maybe the Apache Longbow.
Why would you want a one shot kill it would totaly give snipers an edge over any one in the whole game.  It would be boom shot in the foot oh your dead, WTF Then its not called sniping. Sheesh think

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Why aim for the chest

When you can hit the head
Wildbill100372
Member
+1|7162
Well, there's two issues that you could be facing. One is lag. A head shot is the only one-shot kill, and just a little lag could mean you missed the head and hit another body part. The second is the mouse. I've read some sniper guides that suggest designating a keyboard fire button so that so don't move the mouse when you hit the mouse button to fire.
rob583
Member
+0|7197
If you want to get picky with "hurr .50 cal =1 shot 1 kill even in elbow shots hurr" then they need to change the GL's too. I know damn well from experience that the M-203 does not arm until after 6 revolutions after being fired. That works out to about 30-50 meters. I don't know if it's the same on Russian rifles (prob the same on the 2000) but the noob tube kills are incredibly unrealistic. The Army wouldn't give us a personal weapon capable of killing you and 5 people around you with one accidental discharge in close proximity.

That being said, you probably forgot to factor in medics nearby and the fact that the Barret .50 cal is NOT the best sniper wep in the game. The M-24 is dead on almost all of the time, and has the same damage capability (minus cockpit kill ability). The chances of getting a thru-glass kill are slim and rarely happen anyway, so get the M-24 when you're US or UK. The Barret is a solid upgrade when faced with using the semi-autos on the other teams. The M-24 is far more accurate at long distances than the Barret. Top 2,000 ranked sniper here, I know.

If you only get a body shot, use the pistol to finish of the remaining 5hp. Headshots are only good if they're stationary. If they're moving you're 95% guaranteed not to get it.

Last edited by rob583 (2006-01-08 00:37:18)

DSRTurtle
Member
+56|7163
The only advantage snipers have is one shot = one kill.  The weapon's slow rate of fire as compared to the automatic mode of fire on the other weapons compensate fairly for that.  A good commander using the satellite scan can and should warn his team of the possibiity of snipers when they see a red dot alone and not moving on the map.
Greenie_Beazinie
Aussie Outlaw
+8|7290
LOL, need to sort out your aim, man
section9
Member
+9|7324|USA
new intel: the 50 cal is actually a glass piercing 22 cal.......
DSRTurtle
Member
+56|7163

section9 wrote:

new intel: the 50 cal is actually a glass piercing 22 cal.......
Now that's funny.  lmao

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