New ATI X2800XT

2007-02-22 08:18:36

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Marlboroman82: Personal philosophy: Clothing optional.; +1,022|7087|Camp XRay

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AppleInsider wrote:
The centerpiece of ATI's next-generation graphics card line may make its first appearance as part of an upgrade to Apple Inc.'s Mac Pro line of professional desktop computers, according to an online report.

Revealed in a photo published by the The Inquirer on Monday, a version of the card -- codenamed R600XTX -- was initially pegged as an OEM model for large system manufacturers. However, a subsequent report from the publication claims the specialized card was designed specifically for one customer: Apple.

The mammoth red beast, measuring some 12.4-inch in length, is about 3-inches larger than the industry-leading GeForce 8800 card from NVIDIA. It's said to include a four-pronged heat pipe with vapour chamber technology to provide amble but quiet cooling.

When it makes its debut as part of the ATI X2800XT series later this March, it's rumored that the card will feature 1GB of 512Mbit GDDR4 memory running at 2.0GHz. The graphics core itself will reportedly be an 80nm chip clocked at 800MHz -- significantly faster than the GeForce 8800's 1.8GHz memory and 575MHz core.

While there appear to be several versions of the ATI card that will slowly make their way to market -- including a 9-inch retail variant and slightly down-clocked dual-chip offering -- the model destine for Apple is expected to debut first and introduce CrossFire support to the Mac.

CrossFire technology, which requires a compliant motherboard with a pair of PCI Express (PCIe) graphics cards, essentially allows users or system manufacturers to pair graphics cards within a single system to improve graphics performance.

Precise release date and pricing specifications are currently unknown. However, the card is likely to cost Apple significantly less than the dual-chip X2800XT2 solution, which The Inquirer has pinned at around $600.

Apple, which has held a brawny update to its Mac Pro workstations within its labs since last fall, has reportedly deferred on a release until a time closer to a roll-out of Adobe's Intel-native Creative Suite 3.0 software bundle.

The 8-core Xeon-based powerhouse would be the only system within the Mac maker's arsenal capable of adopting the new ATI card.

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2007-02-22 08:23:50

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Agent_Dung_Bomb: Member; +302|7200|Salt Lake City

Dude, you need to come out from under your rock more often. We beat this information to death, and have since found out about an additional delay.

2007-02-22 08:24:53

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Marlboroman82: Personal philosophy: Clothing optional.; +1,022|7087|Camp XRay

Agent_Dung_Bomb wrote:
Dude, you need to come out from under your rock more often. We beat this information to death, and have since found out about an additional delay.

so you found out it was coming out for the new mac pros in april? please post a link.

2007-02-22 08:26:15

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Ryan: Member; +1,230|7307|Alberta, Canada

Looks funny, but cool. Nice find.

2007-02-22 08:30:52

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Leprechaun56: Proud Infantry Whore; +31|7047|U.S.A

looks like that thing wont even fit in my case

2007-02-22 08:30:57

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Ilocano: buuuurrrrrrppppp.......; +341|7131

Power requirements are just getting ridiculous. Anyone experience dimming lights yet when they power up their gaming rig? External graphics cards with external power supplies are in the pipe already.

2007-02-22 08:31:40

#7

Agent_Dung_Bomb: Member; +302|7200|Salt Lake City

Marlboroman82 wrote:
Agent_Dung_Bomb wrote:
Dude, you need to come out from under your rock more often. We beat this information to death, and have since found out about an additional delay.
so you found out it was coming out for the new mac pros in april? please post a link.

The R600 based cards were expected to be announced at CeBit at the end of March, and shipments available in April. As of yesterday it has been found out that the release date is being pushed back a bit further.

But to answer your initial question, this is the same picture and article that was posted some time ago. This monster version is for SiS and OEM, which would include Mac. I've not seen anything to confirm that this card was only for Apple.

This was the news as of yesterday.

February 21, 2007 - TechPowerUp brings news that ATI (erm, AMD now) will not be launching its R600 line-up next month after all. More from ATI/AMD:

"To better align our strategy with current market opportunities, we've changed the launch plan for R600. We are going to deliver a competitive configuration to market with an extremely attractive combination of performance, features and pricing, targeting a broader market segment in Q2. With the revised strategy, AMD will be better able to capitalize on the broad appeal of 3D graphics and DirectX 10, being driven in part by the growing popularity of Windows Vista™."

http://ve3d.ign.com/articles/766/766278p1.html

2007-02-22 08:35:16

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Marlboroman82: Personal philosophy: Clothing optional.; +1,022|7087|Camp XRay

Agent_Dung_Bomb wrote:
Marlboroman82 wrote:
Agent_Dung_Bomb wrote:
Dude, you need to come out from under your rock more often. We beat this information to death, and have since found out about an additional delay.
so you found out it was coming out for the new mac pros in april? please post a link.
The R600 based cards were expected to be announced at CeBit at the end of March, and shipments available in April. As of yesterday it has been found out that the release date is being pushed back a bit further.

But to answer your initial question, this is the same picture and article that was posted some time ago. This monster version is for SiS and OEM, which would include Mac. I've not seen anything to confirm that this card was only for Apple.

this has been the big news out of appleinsider and a few other mac sites. all signs point to apple releasing a new macpro and that these cards will be included when it debuts in april.

2007-02-22 08:37:30

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Jenspm: penis; +1,716|7196|St. Andrews / Oslo

wootness!

Can't wait til everything comes out and I order my 2007 rig

Marlboroman82 wrote:
Agent_Dung_Bomb wrote:
Marlboroman82 wrote:

so you found out it was coming out for the new mac pros in april? please post a link.
The R600 based cards were expected to be announced at CeBit at the end of March, and shipments available in April. As of yesterday it has been found out that the release date is being pushed back a bit further.

But to answer your initial question, this is the same picture and article that was posted some time ago. This monster version is for SiS and OEM, which would include Mac. I've not seen anything to confirm that this card was only for Apple.
this has been the big news out of appleinsider and a few other mac sites. all signs point to apple releasing a new macpro and that these cards will be included when it debuts in april.

On the release of a new macpro, is it expected that they release a new macbook as well?

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2007-02-22 08:42:23

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Marlboroman82: Personal philosophy: Clothing optional.; +1,022|7087|Camp XRay

Jenspm wrote:
wootness!

Can't wait til everything comes out and I order my 2007 rig

Marlboroman82 wrote:
Agent_Dung_Bomb wrote:

The R600 based cards were expected to be announced at CeBit at the end of March, and shipments available in April. As of yesterday it has been found out that the release date is being pushed back a bit further.

But to answer your initial question, this is the same picture and article that was posted some time ago. This monster version is for SiS and OEM, which would include Mac. I've not seen anything to confirm that this card was only for Apple.
this has been the big news out of appleinsider and a few other mac sites. all signs point to apple releasing a new macpro and that these cards will be included when it debuts in april.
On the release of a new macpro, is it expected that they release a new macbook as well?

rumors is that they will have an update to the line, new screens for the macbooks and macbook pros. also possibly a ultra portable macbook pro.

2007-02-22 08:43:15

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Jenspm: penis; +1,716|7196|St. Andrews / Oslo

Marlboroman82 wrote:
Jenspm wrote:
wootness!

Can't wait til everything comes out and I order my 2007 rig

Marlboroman82 wrote:

this has been the big news out of appleinsider and a few other mac sites. all signs point to apple releasing a new macpro and that these cards will be included when it debuts in april.
On the release of a new macpro, is it expected that they release a new macbook as well?
rumors is that they will have an update to the line, new screens for the macbooks and macbook pros. also possibly a ultra portable macbook pro.

great, now I have to wait before I buy... Again.

2007-02-22 08:47:02

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Ilocano: buuuurrrrrrppppp.......; +341|7131

Here's the thing. Are there any games on the Mac that can truly push the limits of this card? 24"-plus LCD graphic designers yes. But is that a larger segment than the Microsoft gaming community?

2007-02-22 08:54:16

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Agent_Dung_Bomb: Member; +302|7200|Salt Lake City

Marlboroman82 wrote:
Agent_Dung_Bomb wrote:
Marlboroman82 wrote:

so you found out it was coming out for the new mac pros in april? please post a link.
The R600 based cards were expected to be announced at CeBit at the end of March, and shipments available in April. As of yesterday it has been found out that the release date is being pushed back a bit further.

But to answer your initial question, this is the same picture and article that was posted some time ago. This monster version is for SiS and OEM, which would include Mac. I've not seen anything to confirm that this card was only for Apple.
this has been the big news out of appleinsider and a few other mac sites. all signs point to apple releasing a new macpro and that these cards will be included when it debuts in april.

And I would have said yes, until the announcement as of yesterday that AMD has further delayed the part which was scheduled to be announced at the end of March with product available in April.

Again, as of yesterday.

I just got off the phone with ATI who informed me that the Editor's Day which was scheduled around March 11 (flights and hotels were already booked) has been postponed to the second quarter of 2007.
The reason is that their R600 Series is not where they want it to be yet, so they decided to move the launch to be able to deliver a competitive product. Also I am hearing that at the Q2 launch we will see more than just GPU related stuff, so I would guess Physics or GPGPU computing.

"To better align our strategy with current market opportunities, we've changed the launch plan for R600. We are going to deliver a competitive configuration to market with an extremely attractive combination of performance, features and pricing, targeting a broader market segment in Q2. With the revised strategy, AMD will be better able to capitalize on the broad appeal of 3D graphics and DirectX 10, being driven in part by the growing popularity of Windows Vista™."

"This was a tough decision to make for us, but a necessary one that will ultimately result in bringing a better product to market."

Looks like CeBIT won't be so interesting at all.

http://www.techpowerup.com/?25870

2007-02-22 08:57:24

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Marlboroman82: Personal philosophy: Clothing optional.; +1,022|7087|Camp XRay

Ilocano wrote:
Here's the thing. Are there any games on the Mac that can truly push the limits of this card? 24"-plus LCD graphic designers yes. But is that a larger segment than the Microsoft gaming community?

i will cut you some slack here, this arguement has been retread a bazillion times so drop it. this thread is not about how macs are not gaming machines blah blah blah.

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2007-02-22 09:55:46

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Stingray24: Proud member of the vast right-wing conspiracy; +1,060|6909|The Land of Scott Walker

Ilocano wrote:
Power requirements are just getting ridiculous. Anyone experience dimming lights yet when they power up their gaming rig? External graphics cards with external power supplies are in the pipe already.

"Gonna go get some fuel for the generator, honey. I want to play 2142 tonight."

2007-02-22 09:59:20

#16

Ilocano: buuuurrrrrrppppp.......; +341|7131

Marlboroman82 wrote:
Ilocano wrote:
Here's the thing. Are there any games on the Mac that can truly push the limits of this card? 24"-plus LCD graphic designers yes. But is that a larger segment than the Microsoft gaming community?
i will cut you some slack here, this arguement has been retread a bazillion times so drop it. this thread is not about how macs are not gaming machines blah blah blah.

Actually, my point is that, why Mac first? There should be more demand on the PC side for this monster. My guess for the PC delay is the DX10 issue.

Interesting tidbit is that Retail version will be smaller than the OEM version.

2007-02-22 10:00:27

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Agent_Dung_Bomb: Member; +302|7200|Salt Lake City

Fortunately for the PC guys, this card will only like 9.5" (~24cm) in the retail version. The SiS and OEMs get the "John Holmes" version.

2007-02-22 14:52:05

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The#1Spot: Member; +105|7003|byah

Ilocano wrote:
Power requirements are just getting ridiculous. Anyone experience dimming lights yet when they power up their gaming rig? External graphics cards with external power supplies are in the pipe already.

yea mine flickers and my whole system takes about 350watts.

2007-02-22 15:32:45

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Bertster7: Confused Pothead; +1,101|7045|SE London

Ilocano wrote:
Power requirements are just getting ridiculous. Anyone experience dimming lights yet when they power up their gaming rig? External graphics cards with external power supplies are in the pipe already.

They've been done. Asus released a GPU (might have been a 7950GX2, I can't remember) with an external power lead (and no I'm not talking about the external GPU enclosure for laptops).

2007-02-22 19:21:24

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lxcpikiman: imbad @ bf2; +70|7059|Toronto-Canada

that thing is huge and ugly.

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