Dont even reply to my post if you aint going to answer it, so fuck you prick.Miller wrote:
How many teens have been killed in car accidents in the US since the war started?ELITE-UK wrote:
How many US soldiers have been lost so far?
Correct if I'm wrong, CannonFodder, but I believe it pissed him off because he is currently one of those soldiers doing their job and that's not the kind of thing he wants to be seeing during his downtime.Mason4Assassin444 wrote:
Why did it piss you off so bad? I hear conservatives bash people who oppose being there, once again using that "liberal" word. I hear them bitch about democrats who are "undermining the war effort" and "using it as a political football".CannonFodder11b wrote:
That was what i was getting at. Although Ikarti got banned for still images. Not footage of people getting shot, or the sound of someone crying, or asking for strength and protection in a dire time of need. I was upset by the pics Ikarti posted cause he was digging for a fight with those pics. Now still pics versus video. The video was posted with the intent to piss people off. And it seems I was mainly the only person truely pissed off by it.ATG wrote:
The video was almost as graphic as what got ikarti banned.
The OP failed because it was just the video, with no commentary or other point, and imo that made it exploitive and inappropriate.
Atleast the video was removed.
As soon as you see a video of the soldiers doing thier job, you get "so pissed".
Thats a conservative "counter argument". Answer a question with a question.ELITE-UK wrote:
Dont even reply to my post if you aint going to answer it, so fuck you prick.Miller wrote:
How many teens have been killed in car accidents in the US since the war started?ELITE-UK wrote:
How many US soldiers have been lost so far?
So how many have died so far in the iraq war?
No there are lots of video's dealing with the military that pump me up. Videos of Soldiers getting shot, do nothing but piss me off Because IM LIVING THAT. Something some of you will never know. Have you ever had to wash out a vehicle to get a fallen comrades blood out of the truck before you roll back outside the wire to try and Re-make contact with the enemy? Have you ever caused several accidents trying to get a casualty to a cash before he goes into shock? Have you ever seen first hand a AP 7.62 round cause a magazine of 5.56mm explode and penetrate the ESAPI plates, and listen to the casualty scream out in pain everytime you had to reverse the flow of traffic, caus ethe medic didnt want to give him morphine cause the wound was a sucking chest wound and would have lowered his blood pressure and induced the number 1 killer of troops in combat (SHOCK)Mason4Assassin444 wrote:
Why did it piss you off so bad? I hear conservatives bash people who oppose being there, once again using that "liberal" word. I hear them bitch about democrats who are "undermining the war effort" and "using it as a political football".CannonFodder11b wrote:
That was what i was getting at. Although Ikarti got banned for still images. Not footage of people getting shot, or the sound of someone crying, or asking for strength and protection in a dire time of need. I was upset by the pics Ikarti posted cause he was digging for a fight with those pics. Now still pics versus video. The video was posted with the intent to piss people off. And it seems I was mainly the only person truely pissed off by it.ATG wrote:
The video was almost as graphic as what got ikarti banned.
The OP failed because it was just the video, with no commentary or other point, and imo that made it exploitive and inappropriate.
Atleast the video was removed.
As soon as you see a video of the soldiers doing thier job, you get "so pissed".
Hats off to you. Considering this IS the internet, Ill take your word and give you my respect.CannonFodder11b wrote:
No there are lots of video's dealing with the military that pump me up. Videos of Soldiers getting shot, do nothing but piss me off Because IM LIVING THAT. Something some of you will never know. Have you ever had to wash out a vehicle to get a fallen comrades blood out of the truck before you roll back outside the wire to try and Re-make contact with the enemy? Have you ever caused several accidents trying to get a casualty to a cash before he goes into shock? Have you ever seen first hand a AP 7.62 round cause a magazine of 5.56mm explode and penetrate the ESAPI plates, and listen to the casualty scream out in pain everytime you had to reverse the flow of traffic, caus ethe medic didnt want to give him morphine cause the wound was a sucking chest wound and would have lowered his blood pressure and induced the number 1 killer of troops in combat (SHOCK)Mason4Assassin444 wrote:
Why did it piss you off so bad? I hear conservatives bash people who oppose being there, once again using that "liberal" word. I hear them bitch about democrats who are "undermining the war effort" and "using it as a political football".CannonFodder11b wrote:
That was what i was getting at. Although Ikarti got banned for still images. Not footage of people getting shot, or the sound of someone crying, or asking for strength and protection in a dire time of need. I was upset by the pics Ikarti posted cause he was digging for a fight with those pics. Now still pics versus video. The video was posted with the intent to piss people off. And it seems I was mainly the only person truely pissed off by it.
Atleast the video was removed.
As soon as you see a video of the soldiers doing thier job, you get "so pissed".
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With all due respect you are not under any duress to watch the video. Your reasoning above is based on the premise that you have to watch the video or have done so. You're not.CannonFodder11b wrote:
There are somethings people do not need to see, you want to see footage of combat? go to youtube and type in Haifa Street
3 days of fighting. Hellfires,TOWs, and a MLRS strike. Thats shows you what the war is like without soldiers screaming in pain and begging for protection. That video that was posted just showed some shit that does no good to the people that have seen it and brings up bad thoughts. I don't need to be remembering crap like that.
I'm not mad at the wrong people. I'm mad cause that video showed some stuff that should not have been posted. Ikarti posted some pics of dead people. BANNED, thats a video of people getting shot and screaming for help and in pain. Whats the difference the fact there was music involved? Body shots dont bother me.
Watching soldiers get shot and being CASEVACed does. Listening to that guy pray, and ask for help added to it.
Iraq videos that motivate me, are videos a few of my friends made showing door breaches, squads stacked on a wall, while a door gets blown into a street and trooops running in to secure the building. Movies of us doing our jobs, but not movies of joe getting shot. There is a difference. Me myself I have seen enough friends get killed, I have seen enough get sent home never to return. I don't want to relive those feelings of "Oh Shit" During the first few minutes after an EFP Strike when you are trying to figure out if those 11 personnal in the stryker in front of you are dead or wounded. I really don't enjoy watching a platoon trying to beat they're way into a stryker to save a Driver who is on fire and cannot open his hatch cause his fingers are melting. (SPC Ward, Baghdad, Iraq April 2007) The radio is our lifesaver and also our greatest curse when you get a radio call that says "Catastrophic Kill, B34 is burning, mobility kill, loss of power, trying to pop the troop hatch to assess casualties"
I don't enjoy seeing these things cause it hurts. Knowing that my unit has been here for 10 months, and my battalion alone has recieved 6 KIA's and about 15 WIA's that have been returned to the states. Knowing that some asshole is forcing me to stay another 6.
I have a 20 month old Daughter and Twin girls a little over a month old. I've got enough on my plate then to relive fucked up moments of my life.
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hhmmmm.CannonFodder11b wrote:
Ok here is a good video from haifa street. No bleeding troops, but you get to see us doing our jobs.
Its B-roll footage from Combat Camera (military camera crew) There is a scene there where you wil see a sniper team from Comanche Company (C Co 1/23) you will here a distinct snapping type sound. Thats all you need to hear to know a shot just flew near you. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_LB8XwZfTg8
For the record that was the 3rd time we hit haifa street. Its hard to clear and hold several high rise apartment buildings ovverun with insurgents. (First time we were in an ambushes killzone for 4 hours, second time was a 15 hour fire fight, 3rd time was a 12 hour fire fight) That guy using the barrett, thats a good friend of mine, from my company. The guy working the PARA-SAW, thats a squad mate of mine.