What would happen if the robots turned against us?

2007-04-26 19:28:05

#1

ATG: Banned; +5,233|6979|Global Command

https://img.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2007/04_02/gemanoid_468x312.jpg

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/a … ge_id=1770

A rather silly report commissioned by the Department of Trade and Industry talked about giving robots "human" rights - including the right to vote, to receive income support, the provision of council housing and even robot healthcare.

The idea that your vacuum cleaner might be able to sue you for not giving it a lunch break is the kind of lunatic thinking that gives boffinry a bad name.

No wonder proper scientists have queued up this week to condemn the report as "shallow" and "poorly informed

Articles on RobotRights:

http://www.newscientist.com/blog/techno … ights.html
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/6200005.stm

Counter argument by a Robot:

/Discuss

2007-04-26 19:31:21

#2

Spark: liquid fluoride thorium reactor; +874|7125|Canberra, AUS

Simple: just send a T-800 (or whatever) from the future and get him to prevent everything.

The paradox is only a conflict between reality and your feeling what reality ought to be.
^{~ Richard Feynman}

2007-04-26 19:38:17

#3

ATG: Banned; +5,233|6979|Global Command

That's Hollywood.

2007-04-26 19:41:38

#4

agent146: Member; +127|6837|Jesus Land aka Canada

Neo Will Save Us!!

2007-04-26 19:43:42

#5

djphetal: Go Ducks.; +346|6786|Oregon

Have you seen the Roombas?

https://www.wii-volution.com/images/wii/meridianblade/December/roomba.jpg

They fucking freak me out as is. If it could vote...??! Just keep cleaning my floor, little bitch.

Last edited by djphetal (2007-04-26 19:44:51)

2007-04-26 19:47:26

#6

Skorpy-chan: Member; +127|6795|Twyford, UK

What robots?
I own NOTHING that is autonomously computer-controlled. A robot lawnmower would make it all of 5 inches before running into what it would define as 'flowerbed'. A robot vacuum would be driven into walls by the cat.

I'm more worried about my cat deciding he doesen't need me alive any more. A robot can bump into your ankles, and that's pretty much it. The cat has sharp claws and teeth, and sleeps on my bed at night.

EDIT:
Little bugger can hear my typing the world 'cat'. He just shifted to get my attention and look deceptively cute and fluffy.

Last edited by Skorpy-chan (2007-04-26 19:48:22)

2007-04-26 19:58:01

#7

Deadmonkiefart: Floccinaucinihilipilificator; +177|7156

Was that a joke? I don't know of any robots within 100 miles of my house. Robot rights? Sheesh! What's next?

Last edited by Deadmonkiefart (2007-04-26 19:59:43)

2007-04-26 20:00:17

#8

Darkhelmet: cereal killer; +233|7201|the middle of nowhere

Hmmmmmm, well, I'll probably be dead by the time (if the time ever comes) robots become smart enough to turn against us.

2007-04-26 20:21:58

#9

Reciprocity: Member; +721|7031|the dank(super) side of Oregon

scientists are probably stupid enough to give vacuum cleaners emotions and thoughts. if those assholes can do it, they will.

we're the dominant species on this planet because we are supposedly the smartest. it would be stupid for us the create sentient beings that are stronger and smarter than ourselves.

2007-04-26 20:27:02

#10

CoronadoSEAL: pics or it didn't happen; +207|6968|USA

that technology seems too far away, but i think when we fully understand how the human brain works, then there will be an exponential growth in robots/robot capability.

ps - thanks for finding a video of some one who really grabbed and held my attention! /sarcasm

2007-04-26 20:29:39

#11

<SharpShot>: chronic gamer; +17|6770|Canadia

djphetal wrote:
Have you seen the Roombas?

http://www.wii-volution.com/images/wii/ … roomba.jpg

They fucking freak me out as is. If it could vote...??! Just keep cleaning my floor, little bitch.

dont say that, you regret it when roombas rule the earth

2007-04-26 23:34:44

#12

Elamdri: The New Johnnie Cochran; +134|7096|Peoria

All I have to say is this

2007-04-26 23:38:50

#13

link52787: Member; +29|6971

djphetal wrote:
Have you seen the Roombas?

http://www.wii-volution.com/images/wii/ … roomba.jpg

They fucking freak me out as is. If it could vote...??! Just keep cleaning my floor, little bitch.

I sell those at work. The vacuum ones are pretty good but the mopping one is horrid. I always get those returned against me. My commission took a hit from those. Thats why I let my other people I work with sell those. I have no luck with mopping ones, those are leaky bastards.

2007-04-27 09:00:47

#14

RicardoBlanco: The English; +177|7018|Oxford

ATG wrote:
What would happen if the robots turned against us?

Depends what kind of robots they were.

2007-04-27 09:23:18

#15

Bubbalo: The Lizzard; +541|7011

So long as they can demonstrate sentience/intelligence, why shouldn't they?

Of course, the trick is demonstrate sentience/intelligence. Not in our lifetime, if ever.

2007-04-27 09:25:35

#16

GuliblGuy: Zulu son, what!?!; +79|7235|Anaheim, CA

djphetal wrote:
Have you seen the Roombas?
They fucking freak me out as is. If it could vote...??! Just keep cleaning my floor, little bitch.

LMAO!

2007-04-27 09:48:02

#17

konfusion: mostly afk; +480|7000|CH/BR - in UK

Agree with Bubbalo - but sentient intelligence, not just intelligence. They have to have a set moral code, and an idea of sacrifice and what sacrifice is worth.

-konfusion

2007-04-27 09:52:18

#18

Bubbalo: The Lizzard; +541|7011

It could be argued that intelligence requires sentience. Otherwise you're just following orders, and even an American can do that .

Seriously, though, simply following instructions is exactly what current programs do.

Have said that, having morals doesn't indicate sentience/intelligence, as many (read: most) world leaders demonstrate this aptly, nor is a concept of sacrifice (yes, and intelligent/sentient being almost certainly would but............wtf? what kind of criteria is that?).

2007-04-27 11:05:58

#19

Vilham: Say wat!?; +580|7216|UK

Its called EMP.

2007-04-27 12:15:45

#20

unnamednewbie13: Moderator; +2,074|7222|PNW

Joke topic. But when machines become self-aware and free thinking, I'd consider giving them individual rights. Some AI comes up with a cure for cancer? It'd deserve credit and a cushy maintenance stipend.

2007-04-27 12:18:43

#21

Mekstizzle: WALKER; +3,611|7071|London, England

Just turn off their power source. Fucking robots.

2007-04-27 12:25:16

#22

BeerzGod: Hooray Beer!; +94|7020|United States

If they turned against us then Will Smith would single handedly save the day.

2007-04-27 12:31:46

#23

PureFodder: Member; +225|6735

Well, it's nice to see that the daily mail isn't running out of ideas about what stupid stories to invent to scare stupid people. "Oh no the robots are attacking us and leeching off the state. It wasn't like this in my day where everything was in some completely ficticious 1950s utopia where we could all be racist and xenophobic and everyone wouldn't complain because that was normal." Fucking Daily Mail. Why the hell not think about what rights a self aware robot could have? The government wastes money on far dumber stuff than this, at least this has some thoughts about addressing a potential future issue rather than waiting till it's upon us and then deciding.

2007-04-27 12:33:56

#24

S3v3N: lolwut?; +685|6968|Montucky

I have an arsenal of weapons and a pickup truck with a heavyduty cow pusher on it that says otherwise.

2007-04-27 12:34:23

#25

XanKrieger: iLurk; +60|7108|South West England

Well.... gotta start the prophecy of the one someday i supose, spread the word guys O_O

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