BF2S Forums What if Islam is this?

Harmor wrote:

If Islam was that then there really could be Peace on Earth.

However, a much larger precentage of their religion is run by radicals, more so than any other modern religion.

What Islam needs is a Reformation like the Cathloic Church had in the Middle Ages.

Exactly! 
Is there a "head" of the Islamic church?

I thought the Nazis were Atheist.

After seeing that, Islamic extremists seem more like stereotypical anarchist-satanists than anything.

ATG wrote:

I'm no soldier, but I find the history and culture beautiful. Really. Civilization began in Iraq. Writing, math too.

Oh yes, there were a lot of smart Arabs back in the day, BRILLIANT mathematicians.

Deadmonkiefart wrote:

I thought the Nazis were Atheist.

Its a common myth spread by Christian fundies in order to discredit Atheism.  Though religion wasn't a big part of his life, Hitler advocated Christianity.  Like many things, however, he tried to turn his religion into a tool to use against Jews.  Sound like anyone we know of?

ATG wrote:

The hate filled radical nutbags are winning the battle on who speaks for Islam.

From their point they probably only hear people like Bush, yet he doesn't even accurately represent accurately the views of all conservative Americans, much less the entire West.

I find it hilarious when Lisik comes here and says he knows the Qu'ran and then posts a picture of a few radical Muslims and that's the whole argument to say Islam is a Religion of hate.  If we had to judge Judaism for the actions of Israel...I'm not a bigot and I don't judge Judaism or any other Religion making generalizations and stereotyping based on isolated cases.

Deadmonkiefart wrote:

Harmor wrote:

If Islam was that then there really could be Peace on Earth.

However, a much larger precentage of their religion is run by radicals, more so than any other modern religion.

What Islam needs is a Reformation like the Cathloic Church had in the Middle Ages.

Exactly! 
Is there a "head" of the Islamic church?

And what difference does the Vatican make?  They only make laws from the Dark Ages banning preservatives.  We still have priests molesting children.  They don't need a head, they need to separate radicals from the Muslim community.

Last edited by sergeriver (2007-05-22 04:36:38)

Bubbalo wrote:

Harmor wrote:

If Islam was that then there really could be Peace on Earth.

However, a much larger precentage of their religion is run by radicals, more so than any other modern religion.

What Islam needs is a Reformation like the Cathloic Church had in the Middle Ages.

Christians have radicals.  They don't use terrorism because they're part of the power structures in nations with powerful militaries.  The CIC of the most powerful army on the planet is a Christian radical.

That guy who thinks the Earth is 6k years old?

Bubbalo wrote:

Bush thinks the Earth is 6,000 years old?

He believes in Creationism and ID, so...

Islam in principal, like most religions, is fine and theoretically very beneficial to mankind. Extremism, as is the case in most religions, is bad and potentially devastating for mankind. Islam is just front page news at the moment given the modern geopolitical climate. There are people all over the world killing each other over religion only we in the West (being typically egocentric as usual) only care about the religious extremism that threatens our way of life. We in the west also have a cheek to criticise Islam given that we perpetrated the slaughter that was the 'crusade' ...of course people will counter with the usual tired argument 'but that was years ago', as if that justifies it. Extremism is generally bad no matter what faith or belief system it comes from.

Should we judge the Jews on the actions of the Zionazis?

Should we judge all Germans on the actions of the Nazis?

Should we judge all Christians on the actions of the war mongering, right-wing Christian Bush administration (who has cited his faith as an important factor in his decision making)?

Should we judge all British on the actions of the Black and Tans?

Should we judge all Irish on the actions of the continuity IRA?

Should we judge all Muslims on the actions of Al'Qaeda?

...no

Last edited by Braddock (2007-05-22 05:11:39)

Braddock wrote:

Should we judge the Jews on the actions of the Zionazis?

Should we judge all Germans on the actions of the Nazis?

Should we judge all Christians on the actions of the war mongering, right-wing Christian Bush administration (who has cited his faith as an important factor in his decision making)?

Should we judge all British on the actions of the Black and Tans?

Should we judge all Irish on the actions of the continuity IRA?

Should we judge all Muslims on the actions of Al'Qaeda?

...no

QFT!

Lisik wrote:

sergeriver wrote:

Do you know the Q'uran?

Yes.

Can you be sure it's a Religion of hate?

Yes.

If west will not wake up....


http://www.korazym.org/images/ph_islam- … rld_gr.jpg

The west is almost done fighting your religious war against Islam. Better start making friend right now with the palestinians.

ATG wrote:

The hate filled radical nutbags are winning the battle on who speaks for Islam.

You realize that the media dictates who speaks for Islam, right? So, in other words, OUR PRESS is winning that battle. I hate this judgemental prickishness associated with the "If the moderates exist why don't they do anything about it" attitude. Enter reality.

Ottomania wrote:

Your posts make me feel good after seeing some racist thoughts as a Muslim.

Just try and ignore the idiots Otto. Half of them haven't even met a real Muslim before.