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2007-05-24 00:17:18
Profitteroles
Member
+11|6709|Dartford

JaMrulezass wrote:

ASUS A8N-SLI DELUXE (Socket 939, nForce 4 SLI)
Athlon64 3500+ @ 2,2Ghz
6800 Ultra @ 425/2100
4x80GB HDD
GEIL 2x512MB Dual Channel DDR400 @ Stock speeds, frequencys and timings.
2THEMAX ( HK BRAND) 480W PSU

As you can see, my specs arent exactly brand new and I have trouble with BF2 on high mainly because I do not have enough wattage to power my OC'ed GPU. So these are my new specs:
The reason you are having trouble with your settings on high is due to you only having 1 gig of ram, to run on high you must have 2 gig for it to run smooth,

I understand where you are comming from about building a new system but what you have to remember is that games are like 80-90% dependent on the graphics card changing the mobo cpu and ram will give you a minimal increase in gaming performance.
2007-05-24 09:06:03
Bertster7
Confused Pothead
+1,101|7052|SE London

JaMrulezass wrote:

cyborg_ninja-117 wrote:

Villain{NY} wrote:

I believe the only AMD dual core made for the 939 was the FX-60.
X2 3800+ and all that...
Sweet... does that mean i can get an X2 6000+ as well? And one more question too, are 939 X2's rare or very common, because I cant seem to find any which is frustrating or maybe I'm going to have order them.

And thanks a lot Berster7, however, ive read many reviews recommending a 600 for a GTS and most say that you should need a 700 minimum for a GTX, especially if you're overclocking. So I'll rethink that issue, plus, getting a 850W is much more future-proof in my opinion as newer cards get more and more power hungry. My 6800U OC is a pain in the ass when it comes down to power consumption.
That's not what the manufacturers specify as recommended, nor do you need anything like that much power. What you do need is high and consistent current at a steady voltage. To get that, you need a good PSU, but it doesn't have to be 850W. Unless you are planning on some serious future upgrading you really won't need 850W. Reviews often tend to overspec PSUs required for things, because lots of people buy crap PSUs which don't deliver properly under load.

You don't need that much power. It's overkill. The only reason all these ludicrously powerful PSUs came out was because of quad SLI, which 850W will be insufficient for in any case.
2007-05-24 09:22:22
GC_PaNzerFIN
Work and study @ Technical Uni
+528|6885|Finland

Bertster7 wrote:

JaMrulezass wrote:

cyborg_ninja-117 wrote:


X2 3800+ and all that...
Sweet... does that mean i can get an X2 6000+ as well? And one more question too, are 939 X2's rare or very common, because I cant seem to find any which is frustrating or maybe I'm going to have order them.

And thanks a lot Berster7, however, ive read many reviews recommending a 600 for a GTS and most say that you should need a 700 minimum for a GTX, especially if you're overclocking. So I'll rethink that issue, plus, getting a 850W is much more future-proof in my opinion as newer cards get more and more power hungry. My 6800U OC is a pain in the ass when it comes down to power consumption.
That's not what the manufacturers specify as recommended, nor do you need anything like that much power. What you do need is high and consistent current at a steady voltage. To get that, you need a good PSU, but it doesn't have to be 850W. Unless you are planning on some serious future upgrading you really won't need 850W. Reviews often tend to overspec PSUs required for things, because lots of people buy crap PSUs which don't deliver properly under load.

You don't need that much power. It's overkill. The only reason all these ludicrously powerful PSUs came out was because of quad SLI, which 850W will be insufficient for in any case.
yeah. my 750w PSU is capable of handling 8800GTX SLi. who the hell really needs quad SLi anyway?
and yes. my PSU is high quality unlike some cheaper ones.
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2007-05-24 12:03:08
unnamednewbie13
Moderator
+2,080|7242|PNW

RDMC(2) wrote:

I believe the X2's are all AM2 of Socket F. New rig looks pretty awesom to me. I'm not a PC expert but it looks awesome
Incorrect. The socket 939 line of Athlon 64's does feature X2 CPU's.

JaMrulezass wrote:

Hello, its me again, I havent been on BF2s for ages but most of you probably dont even know me anyways.

Anyways, I want to upgrade my current system, specs are as follows:

ASUS A8N-SLI DELUXE (Socket 939, nForce 4 SLI)
Athlon64 3500+ @ 2,2Ghz
6800 Ultra @ 425/2100
4x80GB HDD
GEIL 2x512MB Dual Channel DDR400 @ Stock speeds, frequencys and timings.
2THEMAX ( HK BRAND) 480W PSU

So there you have it, my current system, just about 1 year and 9 months old. I want to upgrade some stuff so it isnt as slow, games now are taking advantage of dual-core and im still on a single core. Piece of crap now, but back then it was top-notch. Anyways I was wondering if any of you know of any socket 939 X2's i can buy. I live in hong kong so buying stuff wouldnt be so easy and therfore there is no newegg and sadly, I dont do e-bay or any online transfers either. So it would be great if you guys could recommend any Socket 939 X2's for me.

Along side with the CPU upgrade (if possible), I will upgrade to 2Gb Dual CHannel and just get a single WD320GB HDD to lessen the heat in my case. I will also be upgrading to a 600-700W PSU. Other than that I have one more thing I hope you guys can help out.

As you can see, my specs arent exactly brand new and I have trouble with BF2 on high mainly because I do not have enough wattage to power my OC'ed GPU. So these are my new specs:

ASUS Striker Extreme
Core 2 DUo E6600 and OC it to 3.2 at 8*400
Corsair PC26400 2 x 1GB Dual Channel @ 400
ASUS EN 8800GTX
WDCavair SE WD7500AAKS 750GB
2 Lite On LH20AIH DVD Burners
XFI Extreme Gamer
CM extreme power pro 850W
Antec Nine Hundred
Scythe Infinity with quad fan setup or Zalman CNPS9700
Any random card reader
Evercool Rocket V GPU cooler
Altec Lansing Model 251 5.1 Speakers
Logitech diNovo Bluetooth Desktop
Dell E228WFP 22" Widescreen 1680x1050

I was wondering if you guys had any feedback on that new system, I might also wait till the Q3 price drop so i can get myself a C2Q 6600 quad core at acheaper and more affordable price. If you think that any compontent is not worth it please let me know and give me some alternative choises. Thanks folks in advance, talk to you guys soon.

~JaM

PS: All currencies in HK are 7.8USD:1HKD and around 15Pounds:1HKD but stuff here seems to be alot cheaper than those I see in the US and Canada. My system costs a total of ~19000HKD.

wooops currencies r the other way round thx for pointing tat out ninja
You're almost exactly where I am with my PC, only better, because I've been playing musical video cards with BFG and my own 6800 Ultra for the past two weeks (don't get me wrong, I love BFG's products, but this is getting a bit old). I honestly think they're running out of them and sending me refurbished ones. But while your specs aren't exactly brand new, they are different enough to qualify as a new rig, not an upgrade. I too would wait for Q3 prices, when products are actually out that a new system and Vista can take advantage of (i.e., Unreal Tournament 3).

Might I suggest, while I'm briefly skimming over your sheet, to use two different DVD burners? The reasons for this have been discussed before, and it is practiced by high-performance rig distributors.

Last edited by unnamednewbie13 (2007-05-24 12:04:55)

2007-05-25 00:58:20
JaMrulezass
Member
+47|6935|Hong Kong
Sure thing unnamednewbie, thx for the advice. I can easily pick up 2 different burners or better yet, I'll pull the 2 out of my existing machine and put em in my new one to save some money. Thing is, one of my DVD burner is retarded. It can only read DVD's but NOT VCD's. That was why I had to buy another DVD Burner. So i guess i can just buy 1 new DVD Burner and put those 2 old ones in too.

And BTW Guys, I have a slight system change, firstly, I'm getting 2 sets of dual-channel, effectively giving me 4 GB of ram. And from the 3.2GB XP RAM Phenomenon, I've done some research on google telling me that a 64-bit OS (Both XP and VISTA) should see all 4GB in Windows, however 32-bits cant coz those damn PCI-E slots somewhat "steal" RAM, the explanation are all very similar, just google it. But anyway, the bottom line is, is it even worth 4GB right now? or is 2Gb overkill? I just wanna get 4GB DDR2 right now, cause I know the scenario will be the same. Once DDR-3 is mainstream, DDR-2 will be more expensive. Same with my DDR-1 situtaion, it costs than DDR-2! And they performace worst...
2007-05-25 00:59:38
JaMrulezass
Member
+47|6935|Hong Kong

[69th_GFH]GC_PaNzerFIN wrote:

Bertster7 wrote:

JaMrulezass wrote:

Sweet... does that mean i can get an X2 6000+ as well? And one more question too, are 939 X2's rare or very common, because I cant seem to find any which is frustrating or maybe I'm going to have order them.

And thanks a lot Berster7, however, ive read many reviews recommending a 600 for a GTS and most say that you should need a 700 minimum for a GTX, especially if you're overclocking. So I'll rethink that issue, plus, getting a 850W is much more future-proof in my opinion as newer cards get more and more power hungry. My 6800U OC is a pain in the ass when it comes down to power consumption.
That's not what the manufacturers specify as recommended, nor do you need anything like that much power. What you do need is high and consistent current at a steady voltage. To get that, you need a good PSU, but it doesn't have to be 850W. Unless you are planning on some serious future upgrading you really won't need 850W. Reviews often tend to overspec PSUs required for things, because lots of people buy crap PSUs which don't deliver properly under load.

You don't need that much power. It's overkill. The only reason all these ludicrously powerful PSUs came out was because of quad SLI, which 850W will be insufficient for in any case.
yeah. my 750w PSU is capable of handling 8800GTX SLi. who the hell really needs quad SLi anyway?
and yes. my PSU is high quality unlike some cheaper ones.
Thats good to hear! Really! I'll try to cut some money on my PSU but the thing is, the CM xtreme power pro 850W is really cheap, cheaper than some of the 750's out there. ANd thanks for the explanation too, Berster 7. I will change my PSU.

Anyone got a good relatively cheap but good performace PSU for my setup? I'm thinking of a Antec True Power Trio 650?

Last edited by JaMrulezass (2007-05-25 01:03:30)

2007-05-25 11:24:51
Ridir
Semper Fi!
+48|7235

RDMC(2) wrote:

I believe the X2's are all AM2 of Socket F. New rig looks pretty awesom to me. I'm not a PC expert but it looks awesome
I have a 5000+ x2 AM2 (socket am2 940 pin)  I orginally ordered a mobo that supports the x2 and it was a socket 939, the lowest 4 X2's use 939 while the rest are a 940 (am2)

 

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