Poll

Should we have more Main Weapon Ammo?

Yes35%35% - 57
No52%52% - 84
Maybe12%12% - 20
Total: 161
David.P
Banned
+649|6539

Snake wrote:

G3 is fine. Its the P90 and MP7 (2 spare clips) that need more if we had to do it for any weapon.
Yeah thats true or make them like their real life counter parts(add more damage)

Last edited by David.Podedworny (2007-06-07 14:17:55)

cowami
OY, BITCHTITS!
+1,106|6555|Noo Yawk, Noo Yawk

David.Podedworny wrote:

Snake wrote:

G3 is fine. Its the P90 and MP7 (2 spare clips) that need more if we had to do it for any weapon.
Yeah thats true or make them like their real life counter parts(add more damage)
Heh. Imagine they made the P90 like it was in Goldeneye. I could definitely live with shooting through thing walls/objects with a bright orange submachine gun.
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Doctor Strangelove
Real Battlefield Veterinarian.
+1,758|6734
Only the MK3A1 and MP7 need more ammo.
specops10-4
Member
+108|7009|In the hills

David.Podedworny wrote:

jsnipy wrote:

How many clips would a real soldier typically carry on thier person?
Around 15 and if your in a squad as resupply rifleman you carry alot more.
I laughed out loud when you said that!  Do you know how much 15 mags would weigh?  Each mag with ammunition in it weighs about 1.5 pounds or more, depending on caliber.  That is about 22.5 lbs., way too much weight to be added to everything else a soldier carries.

9 M4 mags=270 rounds
15 M4 mags=450 rounds!  That is way too much.

PR is correct, you and BF2 are wrong.

Last edited by specops10-4 (2007-06-07 14:57:58)

iPoon.be
Internet Poon
+145|6795|Belgium

doctastrangelove1964 wrote:

Only the MK3A1 and MP7 need more ammo.
I think the AT smg's could use more clips too, now that i think about it. Definitely the PP-19 and P90.
cowami
OY, BITCHTITS!
+1,106|6555|Noo Yawk, Noo Yawk

iPoon.be wrote:

doctastrangelove1964 wrote:

Only the MK3A1 and MP7 need more ammo.
I think the AT smg's could use more clips too, now that i think about it. Definitely the PP-19 and P90.
Pfft, while we're at it, can I get 5 extra SRAWs, too?
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mtb0minime
minimember
+2,418|6920

David.Podedworny wrote:

I just want to know what you think, I personally say yes! We get only 5 clips on average in our main gun and 8 for the pistol, Am i missing something here? Should'nt the main weapons have more ammo? I mean we all cant be support gunners and have an endless resupply of ammo. I cant tell you how many times i have run dry in the middle of a firefight on ghost, Or how many times i've gotten owned by a guy with a submachine gun cause my main gun ran out. In PR we get 9 clips on average and thats awesome because it forces you to stay alive longer, Not like in reg bf2 where its shoot all your ammo, die, respawn, repeat. Tell me what you guys think.
If you're running dry on ammo, there are a few possibilities...
1) you suck and can't hit anything
2) you reload too much


If that isn't the case, then it's not hard to find ammo packs lying on the ground or find a support soldier. And even if you can't and you are just teh ownzor and waste everyone and your ammo can't keep up with you, then surely someone you've killed was a support soldier, in which case you take their pack, throw some ammo, and then switch back. And if no one you play against is support, then you must be playing on a super small server with hardly any people on it, in which case refer to my 2 cases above.



EDIT: And I think it would be nice if the P90 got an extra clip, 2 clips of 50 isn't that great. But it'd be really nice if the AT kits had 2 or 3 extra missiles. But then again that's totally unrealistic, AT guys could not lug around 10 missiles; I know it's insane, but DICE did try to maintain some elements of realism within their game.

Last edited by mtb0minime (2007-06-07 14:59:57)

agent146
Member
+127|6652|Jesus Land aka Canada

jsnipy wrote:

How many clips would a real soldier typically carry on thier person?
4? including the 1 that is already in the rifle. 2 extra in the backpack which in total gives 6. In which in Bf2 world the USMC assault with the m16 does have 6 but no the number of magazines is fine ...thats why you have support and ammo bags DUR!
David.P
Banned
+649|6539

specops10-4 wrote:

David.Podedworny wrote:

jsnipy wrote:

How many clips would a real soldier typically carry on thier person?
Around 15 and if your in a squad as resupply rifleman you carry alot more.
I laughed out loud when you said that!  Do you know how much 15 mags would weigh?  Each mag with ammunition in it weighs about 1.5 pounds or more, depending on caliber.  That is about 22.5 lbs., way too much weight to be added to everything else a soldier carries.

9 M4 mags=270 rounds
15 M4 mags=450 rounds!  That is way too much.

PR is correct, you and BF2 are wrong.
Uh no i saw it in blackhawk down one of the guys had 14 spare clips in body armor pockets. And the one guy who was resupply had a bag that held alot more.
KylieTastic
Games, Girls, Guinness
+85|6718|Cambridge, UK

I reload too much (come from a CZ clan ) but I said NO as I think is right the way it is (ish).....

I just think maybe you should be able to get ammo (not nades) from just standing near a support (only slowly like supply boxes and the support guy don't get points he has to pull a pack out and earn them)

In short I like the realism off fewer clips and having to reload sensibly, but don't like the non realism that the supply guy would ignore you completely.
coke
Aye up duck!
+440|6975|England. Stoke

RedTwizzler wrote:

jsnipy wrote:

How many clips would a real soldier typically carry on thier person?
Apx. 15 from what I've heard, but I don't think that's the main point of the thread.

I think the OP is trying to point out the stupidity of carrying 8 spare clips for your sidearm and yet only 4 (usually) for your main weapon.
Yeah that is true the amount of sidearm ammo should reduced, whilst increasing main weapon by a couple of mags maybe...
David.P
Banned
+649|6539

mtb0minime wrote:

If you're running dry on ammo, there are a few possibilities...
1) you suck and can't hit anything
2) you reload too much
Well i do suck with the m16 on burst mode but overall my hit rate is average. And i only reload when i have less then 7 rounds.

mtb0minime wrote:

If that isn't the case, then it's not hard to find ammo packs lying on the ground or find a support soldier. And even if you can't and you are just teh ownzor and waste everyone and your ammo can't keep up with you, then surely someone you've killed was a support soldier, in which case you take their pack, throw some ammo, and then switch back. And if no one you play against is support, then you must be playing on a super small server with hardly any people on it, in which case refer to my 2 cases above.
I play on ghost alot there are very few support soldiers everyone likes to use the l85 and g3 for some reason, I'm only posting this since with the g36k i cant hit shit and it takes 3 bursts to kill a guy. But with the g36e,l85,g3, and ak101 my hit reg is good.
Doctor Strangelove
Real Battlefield Veterinarian.
+1,758|6734

David.Podedworny wrote:

mtb0minime wrote:

If you're running dry on ammo, there are a few possibilities...
1) you suck and can't hit anything
2) you reload too much
Well i do suck with the m16 on burst mode but overall my hit rate is average. And i only reload when i have less then 7 rounds.

mtb0minime wrote:

If that isn't the case, then it's not hard to find ammo packs lying on the ground or find a support soldier. And even if you can't and you are just teh ownzor and waste everyone and your ammo can't keep up with you, then surely someone you've killed was a support soldier, in which case you take their pack, throw some ammo, and then switch back. And if no one you play against is support, then you must be playing on a super small server with hardly any people on it, in which case refer to my 2 cases above.
I play on ghost alot there are very few support soldiers everyone likes to use the l85 and g3 for some reason, I'm only posting this since with the g36k i cant hit shit and it takes 3 bursts to kill a guy. But with the g36e,l85,g3, and ak101 my hit reg is good.
That's cuz the G36k sucks. Use the C, it pwns the K.
Vernedead
Cossack
+21|6499|Albion
if you don't die before you run out of ammo then clearly your not fighting hard enough.
David.P
Banned
+649|6539

doctastrangelove1964 wrote:

That's cuz the G36k sucks. Use the C, it pwns the K.
I'm trying to get more spec ops times since i dont have the c unlocked i use the k.

Vernedead wrote:

if you don't die before you run out of ammo then clearly your not fighting hard enough.
Lol i like that +1 gonna use it for my sig.
specops10-4
Member
+108|7009|In the hills

David.Podedworny wrote:

specops10-4 wrote:

David.Podedworny wrote:


Around 15 and if your in a squad as resupply rifleman you carry alot more.
I laughed out loud when you said that!  Do you know how much 15 mags would weigh?  Each mag with ammunition in it weighs about 1.5 pounds or more, depending on caliber.  That is about 22.5 lbs., way too much weight to be added to everything else a soldier carries.

9 M4 mags=270 rounds
15 M4 mags=450 rounds!  That is way too much.

PR is correct, you and BF2 are wrong.
Uh no i saw it in blackhawk down one of the guys had 14 spare clips in body armor pockets. And the one guy who was resupply had a bag that held alot more.
Well he had a hell of a lot of magazines...  The normal soldier carries about 9 magazines, and if you don't beleive me, well then go fuck yourself.  It is not an opinion, but a fact like 1+1=2.
Flaming_Maniac
prince of insufficient light
+2,490|6973|67.222.138.85

jsnipy wrote:

How many clips would a real soldier typically carry on thier person?
Exactly. 5.56 and especially 7.72 rounds are heavy, you can't have 6+ mags on you at all times. Pistol mags, however, while people may not carry 6, are still much lighter and easier to carry.
killer21
Because f*ck you that's why.
+400|6856|Reisterstown, MD

It doesn't seem people here know the difference between a clip and a magazine.  Hand guns have clips.  Rifles have magazines.
S.Lythberg
Mastermind
+429|6712|Chicago, IL
the pistol's clip is very light compared to an assault rifile mag, and easier to expend, so i can understand why the soldier would carry more pistol clips.
updawg
Member
+4|6766|Texas
No.  It usually takes me an entire magazine to kill a person as Anti Tank though.

Last edited by updawg (2007-06-07 17:47:45)

S.Lythberg
Mastermind
+429|6712|Chicago, IL

updawg wrote:

No.  It usually takes me an entire magazine to kill a person as Anti Tank though.
well, I can drop two or three with an assault rifile mag easily, so ammo has never been an issue, only with the P-90 have i really felt pressed for ammo, since it takes a 30 bullet spray to bring down someone.
updawg
Member
+4|6766|Texas
I don't have P-90 unlocked yet.
wah1188
You orrible caaaaaaan't
+321|6726|UK

Snake wrote:

G3 is fine. Its the P90 and MP7 (2 spare clips) that need more if we had to do it for any weapon.
Definately agree!
David.P
Banned
+649|6539

specops10-4 wrote:

Well he had a hell of a lot of magazines...  The normal soldier carries about 9 magazines, and if you don't beleive me, well then go fuck yourself.  It is not an opinion, but a fact like 1+1=2.
Dude wtf? Go fuck myself?  Why are you being such an asshole? I was young when i saw that movie allright it showed 15 so i thought 15 was the average number.
Ajax_the_Great1
Dropped on request
+206|6912
No, it's fine reload whore.

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