Snake
Missing, Presumed Dead
+1,046|7037|England

Basically, im going to be buying a new PC very soon.

Im looking at two particular ones, and one comes with this card:
512MB ATI Radeon X1650 SE Graphics

And the other comes with this one:
256MB ATI Radeon X1550 Graphics

Does BF2 support these cards and will it work on it? They're not listed in the BF manual and I dont wana be spending money on a new PC if it wont work!

It also comes with Vista but I could just install XP on it instead.
buLLet_t00th
Mr. Boombastic
+178|6913|Stealth City, UK
They both work on BF2, but the first card is better than the second.
Cookie.VXT
Bringer Of Cookies.
+178|6907|UK
there a bit old

it should work fine with bf2 though

i have a X1950XT and thats not on the supported gfx card yet i have no problems

aslong as you have the right drivers your fine.

i wouldnt have vista though, thats gonna kill some fps
Bidasse_Jason
Member
+5|7213
These are low end graphics cards. Bf2 will barely run on low settings.
Snake
Missing, Presumed Dead
+1,046|7037|England

Bidasse_Jason wrote:

These are low end graphics cards. Bf2 will barely run on low settings.
I currently have a 128MB ATI RADEON 9600 (its an old PC now ) and it all runs on low. In fact, the game ran perfectly up until a few months ago whereas now its hitting a piss poor performace and Ive tried anyting and everything to fix it (takes 60+ seconds to load XP, used to be 10).

What kind of card would you recommend then?
Cookie.VXT
Bringer Of Cookies.
+178|6907|UK
at least a nvidia 6 or 7 series

or the ati x1800 range
Slayer
---hates you
+1,137|7227|Hell, p.o box 666

As your new PC got a PCI-E Motherboard (I assume) I recommend at least a Nvidia 8600GT (mid price), a Nvidia 8800GTS 320MB (will fit for upcoming games) or even a Nvidia 8800GTX 640MB (personally I would go for this one because of the RAM and the possibility to krank the graphics up).

If it comes to ATI cards, well, a X1950 Pro 512MB would be a good choice. Dont go for the X2*00 series. Those dont see any light against Nvidia cards atm.

The cards you´ve mentioned are outdated, hence the SE (second edition), although BF will run on those cards. Imho, every ATI below X1900 isnt good for playing (doesnt mean the old X800 blah blah, and 9800 series wasnt good cards)
Profitteroles
Member
+11|6710|Dartford

Bidasse_Jason wrote:

These are low end graphics cards. Bf2 will barely run on low settings.
I'd love to know what you're smoking??

An X1650 will run bf2 with no problems at all you wont be able to have your settings on max but should run on med with 1 or 2 on high with ease

An 1650 performs very similar to a 7600gt and has about twice the performance of a 6600gt

Last edited by Profitteroles (2007-06-18 05:53:21)

Slayer
---hates you
+1,137|7227|Hell, p.o box 666

Profitteroles wrote:

Bidasse_Jason wrote:

These are low end graphics cards. Bf2 will barely run on low settings.
I'd love to know what you're smoking??

An X1650 will run bf2 with no problems at all you wont be able to have your settings on max but should run on med with 1 or 2 on high with ease

An 1650 performs very similar to a 7600gt and has about twice the performance of a 6600gt
Well, I havent seen an X1600 or X1650 outperforming an 7600GT without crossfire!

https://images.thgweb.de/2007/04/05/thg_vga_charts_q1_2007/chart_battlefield2142_1024_trilinear.png
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Banned
+630|7115|The Netherlands

buLLet_t00th wrote:

They both work on BF2, but the first card is better than the second.
Bidasse_Jason
Member
+5|7213

Profitteroles wrote:

Bidasse_Jason wrote:

These are low end graphics cards. Bf2 will barely run on low settings.
I'd love to know what you're smoking??

An X1650 will run bf2 with no problems at all you wont be able to have your settings on max but should run on med with 1 or 2 on high with ease

An 1650 performs very similar to a 7600gt and has about twice the performance of a 6600gt
This is true for the X1650 XT.
Snake talked about a X1650 SE, which is cheaper and slower.
Sup3r_Dr4gon
Boat sig is not there anymore
+214|6798|Australia
Whats your budget? You can get an X1950pro, which should run BF2 on med/high, for roughly $250AU.
Zimmer
Un Moderador
+1,688|7227|Scotland

Sl4y3r wrote:

As your new PC got a PCI-E Motherboard (I assume) I recommend at least a Nvidia 8600GT (mid price), a Nvidia 8800GTS 320MB (will fit for upcoming games) or even a Nvidia 8800GTX 640MB (personally I would go for this one because of the RAM and the possibility to krank the graphics up).

If it comes to ATI cards, well, a X1950 Pro 512MB would be a good choice. Dont go for the X2*00 series. Those dont see any light against Nvidia cards atm.

The cards you´ve mentioned are outdated, hence the SE (second edition), although BF will run on those cards. Imho, every ATI below X1900 isnt good for playing (doesnt mean the old X800 blah blah, and 9800 series wasnt good cards)
Don't listen to his advice about the 8600GT. It's a shit card. Seriously.

You either get a 7600/900/950 or a 8800GTS.
r2zoo
Knowledge is power, guard it well
+126|7067|Michigan, USA

Bidasse_Jason wrote:

These are low end graphics cards. Bf2 will barely run on low settings.
Wow, way to sell a card way short.  Got nothing intelligent to post, dont post my friend.  I got my brother in law an X1650Pro 512mb, it can easily run BF2 on all medium, could probaly go higher, never tested it.  The 8 series arent worth it IMO.  DX10 is not hevialy supported and Vistas a bitch, stick with with the X1650 its a solid card with some good performence.
Zimmer
Un Moderador
+1,688|7227|Scotland

First of all. Vista isn't a bitch. SP1 is coming out very soon.

Second of all. The 8 series beat anything on the market by a complete mile. Unless you are running SLI mode of 7950GTX (2x).

DX10 has not developed enough yet to be put to the test. We shall see with the upcoming games how good it can be.

Are you serious? DX10 is not a problem with 8 series cards. They work amazingly with DX9. What are you talking about? "heavily supported"....well DUH. It hasn't been used much yet. Crysis will show you the awe of DX10.
DX10 makes not difference whatsoever to your computer. It runs perfectly with DX9.
Slayer
---hates you
+1,137|7227|Hell, p.o box 666

r2zoo wrote:

Bidasse_Jason wrote:

These are low end graphics cards. Bf2 will barely run on low settings.
Wow, way to sell a card way short.  Got nothing intelligent to post, dont post my friend.  I got my brother in law an X1650Pro 512mb, it can easily run BF2 on all medium, could probaly go higher, never tested it.  The 8 series arent worth it IMO.  DX10 is not hevialy supported and Vistas a bitch, stick with with the X1650 its a solid card with some good performence.
You dont have a clue what you´re talking about right? X16** series is pretty much low end right now. Compared to a 7600GT only the more expensive X1650XT is worth a try. And you wont call a 7600GT highend would you?!

The 88** series cards arent worth it? Ok, then tell me other cards that show you similar results. DX10 isnt supported too much right now, but what about upcoming games like QW:ET, Crysis etc.? And Vista is a bitch, sure, let´s talk again in a year and the game industry stops developing games for XP.

@Zimmer: well the 86** series is better then the ATI equal, so why is it shit? Because it hasnt the performance plus like the 88** series?

https://images.thgweb.de/2007/04/05/thg_vga_charts_q1_2007/chart_kulmulierte_frames.png

I dont need to say more.
Zimmer
Un Moderador
+1,688|7227|Scotland

Maybe so Slayer. But it is much worse than many lower end Nvidia cards. All the 7900s and 7950.
kylef
Gone
+1,352|6964|N. Ireland
It should play on low fine, yes.
Slayer
---hates you
+1,137|7227|Hell, p.o box 666

Zimmer wrote:

Maybe so Slayer. But it is much worse than many lower end Nvidia cards. All the 7900s and 7950.
You´re right, but it´s only targetted to the midprice and perfoms better than the older *600 GT´s. An 8800GTS 640MB isnt very much faster than the old 7900GTX or 7950GX2.
Zimmer
Un Moderador
+1,688|7227|Scotland

Sl4y3r wrote:

Zimmer wrote:

Maybe so Slayer. But it is much worse than many lower end Nvidia cards. All the 7900s and 7950.
You´re right, but it´s only targetted to the midprice and perfoms better than the older *600 GT´s. An 8800GTS 640MB isnt very much faster than the old 7900GTX or 7950GX2.
Unless you have the OC'ed version. Which is the most common now.
https://www23.tomshardware.com/charts15/812-806-378.png
Snake
Missing, Presumed Dead
+1,046|7037|England

Woah. You guys know what you are talking about !

Well, im looking at a different PC now...comes with this one:
768MB nVidia® GeForce® 8800 GTX
r2zoo
Knowledge is power, guard it well
+126|7067|Michigan, USA

Sl4y3r wrote:

r2zoo wrote:

Bidasse_Jason wrote:

These are low end graphics cards. Bf2 will barely run on low settings.
Wow, way to sell a card way short.  Got nothing intelligent to post, dont post my friend.  I got my brother in law an X1650Pro 512mb, it can easily run BF2 on all medium, could probaly go higher, never tested it.  The 8 series arent worth it IMO.  DX10 is not hevialy supported and Vistas a bitch, stick with with the X1650 its a solid card with some good performence.
You dont have a clue what you´re talking about right? X16** series is pretty much low end right now. Compared to a 7600GT only the more expensive X1650XT is worth a try. And you wont call a 7600GT highend would you?!

The 88** series cards arent worth it? Ok, then tell me other cards that show you similar results. DX10 isnt supported too much right now, but what about upcoming games like QW:ET, Crysis etc.? And Vista is a bitch, sure, let´s talk again in a year and the game industry stops developing games for XP.

@Zimmer: well the 86** series is better then the ATI equal, so why is it shit? Because it hasnt the performance plus like the 88** series?

http://images.thgweb.de/2007/04/05/thg_ … frames.png

I dont need to say more.
In comparsion to whats out currently, yes.  However, for BF2 the card is pretty good, is it going to stand up to the 8 series? Hell no.  An to be honest going with a low end 8 series is a joke, you get mediocre perfermence jsut for the newest series.  The X1950 easily beats most of the lower end 8 series in most categories. Especially for the price.  A midrange card like the X1650 isnt gonna pump out the greatest visuals, but what it does give is quite nice for its price point, and if your not a hardcore gamer it will easily satisfy your needs.  I play BF occasionaly and alot of RTS's, do I need an 8800?  No, im going with an overclockled 7600GT for the price nothing can beats its performence.  Just becasue better exists doesnt always make it worth it.  You guys dont give the X1650 any credit, its a solid card that performs well.  Unless you have actually used the card, dont try and toss it in the heap based on specs.  The one I set up for BF2 runs easily at medium settings.  My old 5200FX can run BF at a couple of medium settings, sure framerate aint spectacular but never was a stickler for 100fps...

Go with the 8800GTX, im amsumming this is going to be built for you?

Last edited by r2zoo (2007-06-18 09:42:43)

Snake
Missing, Presumed Dead
+1,046|7037|England

r2zoo wrote:

In comparsion to whats out currently, yes.  However, for BF2 the card is pretty good, is it going to stand up to the 8 series? Hell no.  An to be honest going with a low end 8 series is a joke, you get mediocre perfermence jsut for the newest series.  The X1950 easily beats most of the lower end 8 series in most categories.

Go* with the 8800GTX, im amsumming this is going to be built for you?
Yup, just like this one was a few years ago
r2zoo
Knowledge is power, guard it well
+126|7067|Michigan, USA
Good, just dont go thinking mid range is worthless my 5200 is super low range and is stilla ble to keep up somewhat.  Just make sure with this build your getting a good PSU.  An 8800 is worthless if you cant get the proper amerpage to the card.
theknuck
It's pronounced Knuck, like in Knuckle!!
+45|7083|balls
um, i'm assuming this guy doesn't have the juice to run an 8800 series card if he's shopping for a 1650 ati.  make sure you look at the specifications before buying and make sure your compatible.  nothing sucks more than buying new card and finding out your power supply is too weak.  if your power supply is as old as your old vid card you might want to think about upgrading that as well.  they're not that pricey.  what power supply do you have?  i had an old nvidia 6800 pci-e that i ran on a 350 watt power supply.  now i'm running a 7900gt with a beefier psu.  how much ram you got too?  that will definately play a part in your bf2 experience.  oh, and go nothing less than 2gb of ram.

Last edited by theknuck (2007-06-18 22:07:00)

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