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Deaths from certain things don't appear on stats

I agree15%15% - 4
I partially agree23%23% - 6
I don't agree - I noobed you fair and square61%61% - 16
Total: 26
2006-01-27 16:27:25
Sh4rkb1t3
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Angel.C-sq wrote:

VeNg3nCe^ wrote:

BF2s doesn't record any of your deaths by certain stuff.
He wants the deaths from those things not added to his death count, what is total shit, (maybe not for spawn kills, but the rest is)
So you are telling me that it is YOUR fault that:

-Your teamate noobed you to get a jet
-You happened to be at the wrong place at the wrong time and got hit by magnetic artillery
-Ok I was just joking about the supply box thing, lol
-Some tank comes around the corner and noobs you instantly with his mega cannon

Wow, you must not be a very forgiving person then.  I bet you are one of those noobs that punish after jumping infront of my moving vehicle, or after you stupidly got blown up by my claymore, lol.
2006-01-27 16:36:25
Sh4rkb1t3
Member
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Gilgalad wrote:

Sh4rkb1t3 wrote:

-Artillary deaths
-Supply box deaths
-Spawn killed (killed within 4 seconds after you spawn)
-Vehicle deaths
-GL deaths

You don't deserve a death to be recorded on your stats if you die to these things.  Being hit with artillary and being spawn killed is just luck.  If you are not an AT then there is no way to kill a tank/APC/jet/Humvee/mobile AA, so you don't deserve to get a death for dying to a tank (if you are an infantry) since there was no possible way you could have killed the vehicle.  You simply don't deserve a death from dying to a noob tube since it is such a noobish weapon.  Oh yeah, and your respawn time should be shorter if you die to these things.

Last edited by Sh4rkb1t3 (Today 11:42:44)
Okay where to begin flaming...

If this were to be implemented we could say goodbye to the K/D ratio having any validity to your stats. Foremost of the stupid ideas is that any non-AT kit being killed by a vehicle doesn't count as a death. Does that mean that kills while in a vehicle of any sort shouldn't be recorded as kills?

How dare somebody pick up one of those vehicles that are littered all across the map. They are only there to taunt us and aren't a fair part of the game. Also, the Grenade Launcher was only put into the game so that the Assault class would be tricked into thinking that they actually had an advantage in head on assaults. And artillery? Yeah, what army still uses that outdated equipment. It is just something to keep the commander busy and allow him to halt his own team's attacks (because we all know that that symbol means "run here"). Humvees? Did I just imagine all the times that my granades (launched and thrown) and AT mines killed them?

[/sarcastic rant]

I mean seriously, are you unable to deal with the game and want these changes to help out your stats? Even now a k/d ratio above 2 for a player with a few hundred hours is considered to be good. With your silly system, you'd probably get up to you 2 k/d ratio. Meanwhile the good players would build up amazing k/d ratios by abusing the system. Imagine a guy playing medic kit (with no hope against tanks according to you) and drive a tank racking up kills. Then when my tank is about to die (at the hands of a tank/APC/humvee/rock), I jump out and get killed by the "cheap" weapon to not have a death recorded on my stats. Hello 50:1 k/d ratio.
What chance did you have of defending yourself against these things?  Your Kill/Death ratio should be based on how good of a player you are.  No matter how good of a player you are, there is nothing you can do to defend yourself against these things.  So your K/D ratio isn't a TRUE representation of how good a player you are.

Yeah it could be exploited the way I suggested it, you honestly thought I didn't consider that?  Anything can be exploited.  But the thing is that mabey the game would be coded to ELIMINATE any possible exploits?  You think I am going to explain every single possible anti-loophole in my post, AND explain how it would be coded?  When an idea is suggested, you have to accept that any exploits that you can think of, I have thought of, but I didn't post counter-measures to that because my post would be about 50,000 words long?
2006-01-27 16:37:52
slimer
Member
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Deaths on stats should count by what gun you got killed with and not what gun is in your hand. It you get killed by a tank and you are on foot, than thats +1 death on your tank stats. If the stats where set up this way your guns would be more accurate instead of have a .67 kill/death ratio with an assult rifle because most of the time you get kills by a chopper/tank when you are on foot and its not fair to put that death on your assult rifle stats.

The way it is now makes it almost impossible to have a good kill deaths ratio with a regular gun even though you  win most gun fights but get killed by other things alot.
2006-01-27 16:39:25
Sh4rkb1t3
Member
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=ST6=SewerMaster wrote:

he is also the one that wanted a TOW and a stinger/IGLA implacement at every flag on every map.  He says that if we the vehcile whores can't handle it we should go back to CS:S.  what's next on his hit list?
What the hell?

There are two possible explanations for this false accusation:

Either he failed the pre-school reading exam
Or he is slurring my words around to make me look like an idiot

THIS is what I said:

BF2 is for the noobs who couldn't handle CSS, so they came here to whore vehicles and bring up their egos.
2006-01-27 16:41:18
usmarine
Banned
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What is CSS?
2006-01-27 16:46:46
Sh4rkb1t3
Member
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(T)eflon(S)hadow wrote:

Just an observation, I've been back and forth on a few sites this morning, and this is the SECOND COMPLAINT THREAD BY THE POSTER.

1. Yes,  you posted it in the correct index.
2. All I see you do is complain, so you should be ready for the flames.
3. I usually read any kind of manual front to back, for anything, from lawnmowers to computer software.
4. We all paid basically the same $amount, have the same manual and rules, so learn to just PLAY Battlefield2, and stop complaining.


EDIT: spelling; and after reading my post during edit, go easy on him, he really has some insecurity issues, IMO.
Holy shit!  Two complaint threads!  What is this, Nazi germany?  No complaining or you die!  You are what we call a FANBOY.  You blindly defend the game, no matter what, just like the Japs in WW2 fighting for their "honor".  Someone brings up an arguement against the game that has value, you flame it because it brings insecurity to your mind about your "perfect" game.

The way most people see it is that there are two kinds of people: the whiners, and then there are people that whine about whiners.  The way I see it is that there are people who accept and that are willing to discuss problems with the game, and then there are the fanboys.  You are type 2: the fanboy.

Last edited by Sh4rkb1t3 (2006-01-27 16:47:32)

2006-01-27 17:26:02
usmarine
Banned
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Take a breathe and tell me what CSS is.
2006-01-27 17:34:27
Answeller
Usual Suspect
+16|7122|İstanbul,Türkiye
- Artillery Kill : Stay away from crowded areas and white flags and you will be alright.
- Supply Box : You said you were joking. (And i was hoping you were.)
- Spawn Kill : Go spawn somewhere else (If you dont have more spawn point dont spawn there if you cant handle nobody pushing you to spawn.)
- Veichle Kill : Get used to it the game you playing called "Battlefield" . Better yet if its a tank soawn as AT or get in a tank to counter it ....
- GL Kill : Wait for the february (Although i like the GL as it is now.)

Actually you should start playing tetris so nobody shoot at you with anything and the only one you can flame about is your miserable being.

Last edited by Answeller (2006-01-27 17:35:14)

2006-01-28 02:29:00
CRIMS0N_W0LF
Member
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I agree with spawn kill and artly. I also want that glitchs (Like exiting a jeep and it runs you over at 1 METER per secound)

Most of my deaths are from artly *cry*
2006-01-28 03:01:58
=[4th]=SlayThem
Destroy Noob Cannons
+96|7256
That's just going too far.
2006-01-28 09:13:11
Sh4rkb1t3
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OpsChief wrote:

Sh4rkb1t3 wrote:

-Artillary deaths
-Supply box deaths
-Spawn killed (killed within 4 seconds after you spawn)
-Vehicle deaths
-GL deaths

You don't deserve a death to be recorded on your stats if you die to these things.  Being hit with artillary and being spawn killed is just luck.  If you are not an AT then there is no way to kill a tank/APC/jet/Humvee/mobile AA, so you don't deserve to get a death for dying to a tank (if you are an infantry) since there was no possible way you could have killed the vehicle.  You simply don't deserve a death from dying to a noob tube since it is such a noobish weapon.  Oh yeah, and your respawn time should be shorter if you die to these things.
I caught you again.

Artillery is just luck? uh NOT!!! (I suppose sometimes it is luck) We need to get you a military education somehow and quick. You have a good problem solving mind but it needs more data. Ballistics is a science now.

LOL supply box LMAO thats a funny one. that happened to me last weekend after 200+ hrs of play someone finally hits me with a box. LMAO!!! Now thats what I call a surgical strike with a slow moving unguided missile! But did that enemy commander get a kill for it? I bet not. Unfair - his direct action caused my death he should get a point. And as for me standing there looking up at a decending crate? Well what a dumbass I was but I hope I have learned my lesson. Sir Isaac Newton would be ashamed of me.

The GL will be fixed in the next patch I believe to account for the spin-arming distance required. Now getting hit by a 40mm slug travelling at 300-500 Ft Per Sec at up to 10 meters will still wound or kill you (just not splatter your guts everywhere) but I wonder if they will have that part active.

I have solo killed eveything in BF2 but it wasn't easy and sometimes I died alot.  My favorite shot is to pick-off an ATK Helo with a tank gun. Or rake a transport helo with my PKM and see 4-5 bodies drop out. Recently I took out a jet with a TV missile. But by far the best moment was when I was commanding in Mashtuur City and the other team liked to stand around after capping a flag. They also massed before taking a flag. Seeing this I set an arty strike at a point ahead of the attackers by interpolating their convergent paths and then it happened, 3...5...8...9..10.11 kills in one strike they just kept running into it as I planned. And I did this 4-5 times that game with fewer kills of course they learned quickly to avoid the crosshairs of OpsChief's Laser Designator.

The idea of a 4sec death debit from a spawn point will only reduce deaths not stop the killing. After all winning the game also boosts some points.
What the fuck?  So you are trying to tell me that there is somehow a secret way of not getting hit by artillery before it strikes, that only you know?  Please share it with us.  You can NEVER know when artillery is going to strike, and you can never prevent getting hit, especially since the artillery in this game is magnetic.  There is no skillful way you can avoid getting hit, so it should not affect your K/D ratio.

You just don't get it.  You must be a 12 year old sereverly autistic kid.  Dying from some things in this game is JUST LUCK.  Your K/D ratio is supposted to reflect how good of a player you are, NOT HOW LUCKY A PLAYER YOU ARE.

There are 3 kinds of things you can kill in this game:
-Things you have no chance of killing (medic vs tank, infantry vs jet)
-Things that are possible to kill, but the chances of doing this are VERY VERY slim (chopper vs jet, support vs heli)
-Things you can easily kill (infantry vs infantry, assault vs jeep)

Why should you get a death for dying to something that you had no hope of killing?  Your only option is to DIE!  there is no option to KILL it.  You obviously don't have the brain capacity to understand this.  My guess is that you have some sort of genetic disability, since you can't understand this.

Last edited by Sh4rkb1t3 (2006-01-28 09:15:08)

2006-01-28 09:16:11
Sh4rkb1t3
Member
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WilhelmSissener wrote:

[sarcasm] i agree, i should not count if you are on a ladder, reloading, get shot by a chopper, get bombed, or get shot from behind[/sarcasm]

stupid idea. play the game
Go back to playing snakes and ladders if you want to play a luck based game.
2006-01-28 09:17:55
Sh4rkb1t3
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divided wrote:

It takes 2-3 grenades to kill a humvee. NOT 7.
Yeah, if the Humvee is moving and you throw the grenade UNDER it.  Or if you shoot it with a noob tube.  It takes about 7 to kill it if you throw a grenade beside it.
2006-01-28 09:20:57
Prodie
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How many times are you going to triple post in one thread?
2006-01-28 09:22:20
Sh4rkb1t3
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Skruples wrote:

Sh4rkb1t3 wrote:

CrazeD wrote:

That's retarded... it's all part of the game. If you're too stupid to stand under a supply box as it flattens you, then you deserve a death.

You could also tank out tanks with grenades, C4, or a TOW, or you could just stay away from it.
Taking out tanks with grenades... funny shit boy.  See, this is where your credibility ends.  What if you aren't a spec ops?  What if you aren't near a TOW?  Stay away from it?  Ever heard of UAV?  And besides, you don't always know where the tank is.
Grenades do damage tanks. Besides which, attacking a tank is not always meant to do damage. If i know theres a spec ops or anti tank player nearby, ill attack the tank with my pistol if i have to, just to draw his attention away from the real threat.

Its called strategy. You should look into it.

*edit* you dont always know where the tank is? Last I checked tanks are pretty damn easy to notice. I suppose you lose track of the ground sometimes as well...?
How the hell do you know where the supply box is going to land without hacks?
Yeah, a grenade takes off half a bar of a tanks health.  At that rate, you would need to die and respawn 10 times if all of your grenades hit.  I hope you realise that shooting a tank with a pistol does nothing, it doesn't even flash a red arrow on his screen - so what you are doing is useless.  And besides, your K/D ratio shouldn't be affected by the effectiveness of your team.
2006-01-28 18:15:22
Skruples
Mod Incarnate
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Sh4rkb1t3 wrote:

Skruples wrote:

Sh4rkb1t3 wrote:


Taking out tanks with grenades... funny shit boy.  See, this is where your credibility ends.  What if you aren't a spec ops?  What if you aren't near a TOW?  Stay away from it?  Ever heard of UAV?  And besides, you don't always know where the tank is.
Grenades do damage tanks. Besides which, attacking a tank is not always meant to do damage. If i know theres a spec ops or anti tank player nearby, ill attack the tank with my pistol if i have to, just to draw his attention away from the real threat.

Its called strategy. You should look into it.

*edit* you dont always know where the tank is? Last I checked tanks are pretty damn easy to notice. I suppose you lose track of the ground sometimes as well...?
How the hell do you know where the supply box is going to land without hacks?
Yeah, a grenade takes off half a bar of a tanks health.  At that rate, you would need to die and respawn 10 times if all of your grenades hit.  I hope you realise that shooting a tank with a pistol does nothing, it doesn't even flash a red arrow on his screen - so what you are doing is useless.  And besides, your K/D ratio shouldn't be affected by the effectiveness of your team.
I have had a supply box land on me maybe once in my 650 hours of gameplay. I've run into falling supply boxes in helicopters and jets more often than had one land on me, and it usually didnt kill my vehicle.
Grenades do more than half a bar of damage, and no youre not going to kill a tank from full health. My point is that it does damage, period, and you should take advantage of this instead of whining about it on forums. Ive killed more than a few tanks with grenades, (after they were already damaged that is) and at the very least it gives them something to think about.And yes I know that shooting the tank with my pistol doesnt do damage or even alert him that hes being attacked, but if he sees me do it he's more likely to shoot at me than the spec ops running up on the other side of him, which is all i care about.
If you dont want your K/D ratio affected by your team then you shouldn't be playing a team oriented game. I suppose you don't want your K/D ratio affected by the effectiveness of the other team either...?

 

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