/end thread.JahManRed wrote:
As long as we richer more developed countries block Africa's right to trade on a level par with the rest of us and dont make concerted efforts to force regime change and inject funds to kick start their economies, they will keep coming and keep trying and I wouldn't blame them, especially when their TV screens are filled with western culture in all its shiny Glory.
I couldnt agree more. I know I Bosnia foreign products and companies are ruthlessly eliminating domestic production. How can a new drinks company compete with Coca Cola or Red Bull when they have millions to spend on advertising ? Not to mention the very low prices. Two liter bottle of Cola costs around 60 cents (3 times cheaper than in Austria). Can of RedBull is 50 cents.JahManRed wrote:
As long as we richer more developed countries block Africa's right to trade on a level par with the rest of us and dont make concerted efforts to force regime change and inject funds to kick start their economies, they will keep coming and keep trying and I wouldn't blame them, especially when their TV screens are filled with western culture in all its shiny Glory.
Economy depends on a strong force of cheap labour. Most illegal immigrants are in jail for the fact they are entering the country illegally.
If they all went back then who would pick our fruit and clean our toilets? Oakies?CameronPoe wrote:
Why don't you send them back?
How about unemployed Americans? You've allowed your economy to grow more than it should have.Tromboner999 wrote:
If they all went back then who would pick our fruit and clean our toilets? Oakies?CameronPoe wrote:
Why don't you send them back?
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With big boats. Lots of them.fadedsteve wrote:
lol. . . .Cameron . . . .how on earth do you think that its possible to ship 12 to 15 million illegals out of California??? Thats more illegals in my state than some entire populations of European countries. . . .
say what?madmax wrote:
just do like Australia set up detention camps an leave them in there for a couple of years they will get the point
Or a huge bridge. With one way signs, so they can't get back in.Bertster7 wrote:
With big boats. Lots of them.fadedsteve wrote:
lol. . . .Cameron . . . .how on earth do you think that its possible to ship 12 to 15 million illegals out of California??? Thats more illegals in my state than some entire populations of European countries. . . .
How much should our economy be growing? Last I heard the United States economy is growing slower than the other major economies with China in the lead with 10% growth.CameronPoe wrote:
How about unemployed Americans? You've allowed your economy to grow more than it should have.Tromboner999 wrote:
If they all went back then who would pick our fruit and clean our toilets? Oakies?CameronPoe wrote:
Why don't you send them back?
Why should economies grow at all?Harmor wrote:
How much should our economy be growing? Last I heard the United States economy is growing slower than the other major economies with China in the lead with 10% growth.CameronPoe wrote:
How about unemployed Americans? You've allowed your economy to grow more than it should have.Tromboner999 wrote:
If they all went back then who would pick our fruit and clean our toilets? Oakies?
Why don't we just send them back? I ask my self that question every day, but then I realize there are 20 million of them, and thousands more crossing every day. If we start a massive deportation of them, we are called racists by the Mexican/liberal organizations, then start the protests, then Mexico starts condemning the US. According to Mexico, an immigration problem does not exist. The problem is in the politics, and the sheer massive numbers of illegal’s here.CameronPoe wrote:
Why don't you send them back?
You want an honest answer, it is that we need them for cheap labour.CameronPoe wrote:
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Europe has to deal with hundreds of thousands of people trying to reach its shores every year. I find it comforting to see the graph in the bottom right corner above. I hear a lot of complaints about Mexican immigration to the US. My question is this? Why don't you send them back?
groan...Scorpion0x17 wrote:
Why should economies grow at all?Harmor wrote:
How much should our economy be growing? Last I heard the United States economy is growing slower than the other major economies with China in the lead with 10% growth.CameronPoe wrote:
How about unemployed Americans? You've allowed your economy to grow more than it should have.
What utter rubbish.ATG wrote:
groan...Scorpion0x17 wrote:
Why should economies grow at all?Harmor wrote:
How much should our economy be growing? Last I heard the United States economy is growing slower than the other major economies with China in the lead with 10% growth.
I said it was a seriously stupid question because to institute your notion of economies not needing to grow we shall have to dictate absolute numbers of people allowed to live, probably determined by politicians and doctors with needles.
I didn't address it in the thread because my comment was blunt and somewhat rude. Sorry 'bout that. I did sign my name.
See what I mean?Scorpion0x17 wrote:
What utter rubbish.ATG wrote:
groan...Scorpion0x17 wrote:
Why should economies grow at all?
I said it was a seriously stupid question because to institute your notion of economies not needing to grow we shall have to dictate absolute numbers of people allowed to live, probably determined by politicians and doctors with needles.
I didn't address it in the thread because my comment was blunt and somewhat rude. Sorry 'bout that. I did sign my name.
Economies don't grow because the population grows. Economies grow because economists, politicians and idiots think that they must.
Why should that mean we should not debate a subject?ATG wrote:
See what I mean?Scorpion0x17 wrote:
What utter rubbish.ATG wrote:
groan...
I said it was a seriously stupid question because to institute your notion of economies not needing to grow we shall have to dictate absolute numbers of people allowed to live, probably determined by politicians and doctors with needles.
I didn't address it in the thread because my comment was blunt and somewhat rude. Sorry 'bout that. I did sign my name.
Economies don't grow because the population grows. Economies grow because economists, politicians and idiots think that they must.
There is no bridging this divide in our perceptions. The sense of futility is largely what keeps me restrained.
You are idealistic and young, I wish you nothing but success. Your loggerheaded perception required comment.
We exist in different worlds.
Our current government both Congressional and Presidential have no interest in representing the American voter. They work for Special interest and cheap labor. But have no fear we are working on it. Just ask John McCain.CameronPoe wrote:
Why don't you send them back?
Ok. Just 'cause I'm feeling frisky...Scorpion0x17 wrote:
Why should that mean we should not debate a subject?ATG wrote:
See what I mean?Scorpion0x17 wrote:
What utter rubbish.
Economies don't grow because the population grows. Economies grow because economists, politicians and idiots think that they must.
There is no bridging this divide in our perceptions. The sense of futility is largely what keeps me restrained.
You are idealistic and young, I wish you nothing but success. Your loggerheaded perception required comment.
We exist in different worlds.
I am not loggerheaded - if you can convince me that economies must grow, then I will admit I am wrong.
You are the one being loggerheaded. I am open to debate.
