ceslayer23
IN YOUR MIRROR
+142|6832|CLOSER THAN I APPEAR
Does anyone know if the SATA DVD burners write any faster than plain IDE ones?  I'm looking to get a new DVD burner, and I was thinking about getting a SATA one
jsnipy
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+3,277|6994|...

Both mine are. I don't really notice a difference.
Bertster7
Confused Pothead
+1,101|7053|SE London

No. They don't.

The only real benefits are the smaller cable and the fact that SATA drives are hot swapable.
buLLet_t00th
Mr. Boombastic
+178|6914|Stealth City, UK

jsnipy wrote:

Both mine are. I don't really notice a difference.
The write speed is whatever it is stated for, the read speed and access to whatever is on the disk is slightly improved. As in you get whats on the disk quicker to your MOBO and therefore on the screen quicker.

Last edited by buLLet_t00th (2007-07-03 10:38:46)

Bertster7
Confused Pothead
+1,101|7053|SE London

buLLet_t00th wrote:

jsnipy wrote:

Both mine are. I don't really notice a difference.
The write speed is whatever it is stated for, the read speed and access to whatever is on the disk is slightly improved. As in you get whats on the disk quicker to your MOBO and therefore on the screen quicker.
That isn't true.

The limiting factor with DVD drives is the drive itself, not the bandwidth of the interface. PATA offers 133MB/s, that's fine for the 20 or so MB/s that DVD drives operate at. There is no difference in performance.

Last edited by Bertster7 (2007-07-03 10:47:58)

keimtime
Member
+18|6864|Nebraska, USA
There is really no performance gain.  You will gain having better airflow in your case since you can use smaller cables.  Check out the full answer from PC Mag:

http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,1895,2125485,00.asp
buLLet_t00th
Mr. Boombastic
+178|6914|Stealth City, UK

Bertster7 wrote:

buLLet_t00th wrote:

jsnipy wrote:

Both mine are. I don't really notice a difference.
The write speed is whatever it is stated for, the read speed and access to whatever is on the disk is slightly improved. As in you get whats on the disk quicker to your MOBO and therefore on the screen quicker.
That isn't true.
It is true, there are hundreds of examples of this on sites everywhere, I did my research about 2 or 3 weeks ago for my new rig when I was thinking about whether to get an IDE or SATA drive.

My OP may have been a bit confusing because I didn't know how to put it. The information from whatever is on the disk gets to you quicker (does that make anymore sense?).

It is minimal but any gain is a gain.

Last edited by buLLet_t00th (2007-07-03 10:45:51)

Bertster7
Confused Pothead
+1,101|7053|SE London

buLLet_t00th wrote:

Bertster7 wrote:

buLLet_t00th wrote:


The write speed is whatever it is stated for, the read speed and access to whatever is on the disk is slightly improved. As in you get whats on the disk quicker to your MOBO and therefore on the screen quicker.
That isn't true.
It is true, there are hundreds of examples of this on sites everywhere, I did my research about 2 or 3 weeks ago for my new rig when I was thinking about whether to get an IDE or SATA drive.

My OP may have been a bit confusing because I didn't know how to put it. The information from whatever is on the disk gets to you quicker (does that make anymore sense?).

It is minimal but any gain is a gain.
There is no gain whatsoever, whoever told you there is, is very wrong. Since it is operating over a UDMA interface it is accesing the memory directly (that's what DMA is), so whilst the data may go down the cable faster, the drive doesn't go any faster and the data isn't sent any faster - therefore there is no performance benefit whatsoever.
ReDevilJR
Member
+106|6822

Bertster7 wrote:

buLLet_t00th wrote:

Bertster7 wrote:


That isn't true.
It is true, there are hundreds of examples of this on sites everywhere, I did my research about 2 or 3 weeks ago for my new rig when I was thinking about whether to get an IDE or SATA drive.

My OP may have been a bit confusing because I didn't know how to put it. The information from whatever is on the disk gets to you quicker (does that make anymore sense?).

It is minimal but any gain is a gain.
There is no gain whatsoever, whoever told you there is, is very wrong. Since it is operating over a UDMA interface it is accesing the memory directly (that's what DMA is), so whilst the data may go down the cable faster, the drive doesn't go any faster and the data isn't sent any faster - therefore there is no performance benefit whatsoever.
Dude, you're so pro, I love it. What do you do for a living?
Bertster7
Confused Pothead
+1,101|7053|SE London

ReDevilJR wrote:

Bertster7 wrote:

buLLet_t00th wrote:


It is true, there are hundreds of examples of this on sites everywhere, I did my research about 2 or 3 weeks ago for my new rig when I was thinking about whether to get an IDE or SATA drive.

My OP may have been a bit confusing because I didn't know how to put it. The information from whatever is on the disk gets to you quicker (does that make anymore sense?).

It is minimal but any gain is a gain.
There is no gain whatsoever, whoever told you there is, is very wrong. Since it is operating over a UDMA interface it is accesing the memory directly (that's what DMA is), so whilst the data may go down the cable faster, the drive doesn't go any faster and the data isn't sent any faster - therefore there is no performance benefit whatsoever.
Dude, you're so pro, I love it. What do you do for a living?
IT tech support.
buLLet_t00th
Mr. Boombastic
+178|6914|Stealth City, UK

Bertster7 wrote:

buLLet_t00th wrote:

Bertster7 wrote:


That isn't true.
It is true, there are hundreds of examples of this on sites everywhere, I did my research about 2 or 3 weeks ago for my new rig when I was thinking about whether to get an IDE or SATA drive.

My OP may have been a bit confusing because I didn't know how to put it. The information from whatever is on the disk gets to you quicker (does that make anymore sense?).

It is minimal but any gain is a gain.
There is no gain whatsoever, whoever told you there is, is very wrong. Since it is operating over a UDMA interface it is accesing the memory directly (that's what DMA is), so whilst the data may go down the cable faster, the drive doesn't go any faster and the data isn't sent any faster - therefore there is no performance benefit whatsoever.
I knew there was something that made it go faster down the cable......I didn't realise there was no performance gain from it.
ghettoperson
Member
+1,943|7120

Even if it was slower, I'd still get SATA. Can't stand having IDE cables cluttering up my case.
jsnipy
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ghettoperson wrote:

Even if it was slower, I'd still get SATA. Can't stand having IDE cables cluttering up my case.
that was my main reason.
ReDevilJR
Member
+106|6822

ghettoperson wrote:

Even if it was slower, I'd still get SATA. Can't stand having IDE cables cluttering up my case.
Same, next PC is going to be IDE'less

Bertster7, Just outta' curiosity, what company do you work for? (I'm going to be going to a college for a future job related to computers, - Probably Computer Engineering or something like that... Wasn't sure what you did)
jsnipy
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+3,277|6994|...

ReDevilJR wrote:

ghettoperson wrote:

Even if it was slower, I'd still get SATA. Can't stand having IDE cables cluttering up my case.
Same, next PC is going to be IDE'less

Bertster7, Just outta' curiosity, what company do you work for? (I'm going to be going to a college for a future job related to computers, - Probably Computer Engineering or something like that... Wasn't sure what you did)
Beef Engineer, McDonalds, Leeds     .. j/k
Bertster7
Confused Pothead
+1,101|7053|SE London

I'm holding off getting a SATA DVDRW, because I'm waiting for Blu-Ray drives to drop in price, they should benefit from a SATA interface, since the transfer speeds can theoretically be about double that of DVDRW drives.
Hurricane
Banned
+1,153|7102|Washington, DC

Bertster7 wrote:

I'm holding off getting a SATA DVDRW, because I'm waiting for Blu-Ray drives to drop in price, they should benefit from a SATA interface, since the transfer speeds can theoretically be about double that of DVDRW drives.
If you absolutely need a DVD drive right now, might as well go for it. They're pretty cheap these days.
Bertster7
Confused Pothead
+1,101|7053|SE London

ReDevilJR wrote:

ghettoperson wrote:

Even if it was slower, I'd still get SATA. Can't stand having IDE cables cluttering up my case.
Same, next PC is going to be IDE'less

Bertster7, Just outta' curiosity, what company do you work for? (I'm going to be going to a college for a future job related to computers, - Probably Computer Engineering or something like that... Wasn't sure what you did)
At the moment I'm doing freelance stuff, did some stuff for the BBC not long ago, did networking for a group of hotels done in Brighton recently too and I'm on call out for a support agency at the moment - but I haven't had a lot of work this week - hence me being online so much (it's raining loads, I don't want to go out).

Good tip - if you want to get rich, do support for investment bankers, they pay shitloads. I've done a few short term 1st and 2nd line support contracts for banks based in docklands, it's good money.

I did Computer Engineering at uni just like you're planning on.

Last edited by Bertster7 (2007-07-03 11:19:03)

ReDevilJR
Member
+106|6822

Bertster7 wrote:

ReDevilJR wrote:

ghettoperson wrote:

Even if it was slower, I'd still get SATA. Can't stand having IDE cables cluttering up my case.
Same, next PC is going to be IDE'less

Bertster7, Just outta' curiosity, what company do you work for? (I'm going to be going to a college for a future job related to computers, - Probably Computer Engineering or something like that... Wasn't sure what you did)
At the moment I'm doing freelance stuff, did some stuff for the BBC not long ago, did networking for a group of hotels done in Brighton recently too and I'm on call out for a support agency at the moment - but I haven't had a lot of work this week - hence me being online so much (it's raining loads, I don't want to go out).

Good tip - if you want to get rich, do support for investment bankers, they pay shitloads. I've done a few short term 1st and 2nd line support contracts for banks based in docklands, it's good money.

I did Computer Engineering at uni just like you're planning on.
Oh, sounds sweet. Good luck with that. I'm just not sure what I want to do as a job after college though, I can (probably/hopefully) get the grades, just not sure after that...
kylef
Gone
+1,352|6965|N. Ireland
Most burn at the same speed (16x or 18x), however the advantage of SATA is that if you have a fairly new system, then you won't have any more huge, bulky IDE cables in the way.

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