Happy Independence Day everyone! I hope you all have a good 4th and remember who this holiday truly honors. The following is dedicated to the brave men and women who have given their lives in service to our country and to those currently risking their lives in our armed forces. Keep your head low, give the enemy hell, and we hope to see you home soon. God bless America.

What about a little tribute to general La Fayette?
It should really be honouring him too.
It should really be honouring him too.
Not really. July 4th 1776 was three years before the french lifted a finger to help.Bertster7 wrote:
What about a little tribute to general La Fayette?
It should really be honouring him too.
I would like to thank you for being French.GunSlinger OIF II wrote:
Not really. July 4th 1776 was three years before the french lifted a finger to help.
But you'd have lost without them, so it'd all have amounted to nothing.GunSlinger OIF II wrote:
Not really. July 4th 1776 was three years before the french lifted a finger to help.Bertster7 wrote:
What about a little tribute to general La Fayette?
It should really be honouring him too.
In any case, La Fayette was getting stuck in by 1777, that's not 3 years.
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This thread is to honor US soldiers. Feel free to make your own thread about everyone else, Berster.
Typical.Stingray24 wrote:
This thread is to honor US soldiers. Feel free to make your own thread about everyone else, Berster.
I see some horrendous double standards there....
La Fayette was an absolute legend who very rarely gets the recognition he deserves from the American public. His contributions to the war of independence were as essential as the US involvement in WWII.
Fat lot of gratitude he gets.
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Everyone...consider the source...as he calls himself "confused pothead"!Bertster7 wrote:
Typical.Stingray24 wrote:
This thread is to honor US soldiers. Feel free to make your own thread about everyone else, Berster.
I see some horrendous double standards there....
Seriously though...this thread was made to remember, not to start a debate and start a tit for tat. Grow up.
This thread simply honors those from our nation. Everyone is free to create a thread honoring those from other nations.
He's someone your nation should be honouring.Stingray24 wrote:
This thread simply honors those from our nation. Everyone is free to create a thread honoring those from other nations.
You're free to honor him . . . in A DIFFERENT THREAD. This is my thread and I am choosing to honor the soldiers of my nation. Honor the people you wish to honor somewhere else. Thanks.
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Lest you Forget The Fallen
Lest you Forget The Fallen
You need to relax...i think you have the shakes or munchies or something because you cant control yourself. Look, this is a day we celebrate regardless of how we got there. It is our independence day and we celebrate it as it is. A time to remember our freedom. You need to chill out and respect what the poster was trying to convey to his fellow Americans and quit trying to turn a thread of honoring our soldiers to a low level petty argument. Honestly...its pretty lame.Bertster7 wrote:
He's someone your nation should be honouring.Stingray24 wrote:
This thread simply honors those from our nation. Everyone is free to create a thread honoring those from other nations.
I don't really care. He hasn't done much for me. But he won you your independence.Stingray24 wrote:
You're free to honor him . . . in A DIFFERENT THREAD. This is my thread and I am choosing to honor the soldiers of my nation. Honor the people you wish to honor somewhere else. Thanks.
I have no reason to honour him, but I have a lot of respect for him and it seems fitting that he should get some sort of mention. Just as the American forces are remembered in Europe on VE day.
You should remember, that without him, your nation would probably not exist.
Bertster7 wrote:
What about a little tribute to general La Fayette?
It should really be honouring him too.

Huzzah!
Happy Birthday, United States! Still looking good at 231!
On that note, can't wait for fireworks 'n music tonight!
Huzzah!DesertFox- wrote:
http://www.lafayette-online.com/transpo … pp_map.gifBertster7 wrote:
What about a little tribute to general La Fayette?
It should really be honouring him too.
Huzzah!
Happy Birthday, United States!
I think somebody is upset the British lost in the US Revolutionary war.Bertster7 wrote:
Typical. I see some horrendous double standards there....Stingray24 wrote:
This thread is to honor US soldiers. Feel free to make your own thread about everyone else, Berster.
La Fayette was an absolute legend who very rarely gets the recognition he deserves from the American public. His contributions to the war of independence were as essential as the US involvement in WWII.
Fat lot of gratitude he gets.
Stop. Right now. Do not even go there, for the sake of this topic.The_Mac wrote:
I think somebody is upset the British lost in the US Revolutionary war.Bertster7 wrote:
Typical. I see some horrendous double standards there....Stingray24 wrote:
This thread is to honor US soldiers. Feel free to make your own thread about everyone else, Berster.
La Fayette was an absolute legend who very rarely gets the recognition he deserves from the American public. His contributions to the war of independence were as essential as the US involvement in WWII.
Fat lot of gratitude he gets.
Not at all. I just think that La Fayette was an absolute legend (and for me to think that about a Frenchman is quite a big deal) and I have never seen or heard an American offer him any recognition for the enormous role he played in US victory.The_Mac wrote:
I think somebody is upset the British lost in the US Revolutionary war.Bertster7 wrote:
Typical. I see some horrendous double standards there....Stingray24 wrote:
This thread is to honor US soldiers. Feel free to make your own thread about everyone else, Berster.
La Fayette was an absolute legend who very rarely gets the recognition he deserves from the American public. His contributions to the war of independence were as essential as the US involvement in WWII.
Fat lot of gratitude he gets.
Read up on him - he was a great, great leader with great principles.
And in any case he was an American soldier, so honouring him in this thread is entirely appropriate.
(Anyway, this is getting silly - it was never meant as any sort of disrespect to American soldiers, just added respect for a particular American soldier - it's virtually the same as me giving George Washington a mention)
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I would like to congratulate Berster for dragging a perfectly honest post meant for honoring AMERICAN soldiers through the mud. Couldn't leave well enough alone, you are such a cool guy!
If he's the guy they called the swamp fox then yes I learned about him and his adventures in history calss.Bertster7 wrote:
Not at all. I just think that La Fayette was an absolute legend (and for me to think that about a Frenchman is quite a big deal) and I have never seen or heard an American offer him any recognition for the enormous role he played in US victory.The_Mac wrote:
I think somebody is upset the British lost in the US Revolutionary war.Bertster7 wrote:
Typical. I see some horrendous double standards there....
La Fayette was an absolute legend who very rarely gets the recognition he deserves from the American public. His contributions to the war of independence were as essential as the US involvement in WWII.
Fat lot of gratitude he gets.
Read up on him - he was a great, great leader with great principles.
And in any case he was an American soldier, so honouring him in this thread is entirely appropriate.
(Anyway, this is getting silly - it was never meant as any sort of disrespect to American soldiers, just added respect for a particular American soldier - it's virtually the same as me giving George Washington a mention)
oh no....he was the french general who was responsible for convincing the french royals to support the colonists in the revolution. That guy your talking about is name Marion, I think, and hes from South Carolina. fuck it. theyre both soldiers and they both served for the cause of the United States.rawls2 wrote:
If he's the guy they called the swamp fox then yes I learned about him and his adventures in history calss.Bertster7 wrote:
Not at all. I just think that La Fayette was an absolute legend (and for me to think that about a Frenchman is quite a big deal) and I have never seen or heard an American offer him any recognition for the enormous role he played in US victory.The_Mac wrote:
I think somebody is upset the British lost in the US Revolutionary war.
Read up on him - he was a great, great leader with great principles.
And in any case he was an American soldier, so honouring him in this thread is entirely appropriate.
(Anyway, this is getting silly - it was never meant as any sort of disrespect to American soldiers, just added respect for a particular American soldier - it's virtually the same as me giving George Washington a mention)
I personally dont really believe that france was anything that tipped the scales in the war against the brits. If it wasnt for them, the war would have gone on longer than 8 years, but, self rule and independence was here to stay. just my opinion.
Good--speaking as the founder of the Military History Thread which can be found here, I invite you to please contribute and show us how educated you are about General Lafayette. Me personally, I am a little more critical. His tactics were continental, conformist type, and his troops he expected to follow all orders, and believed personal initiative from people below himself was dangerous.Bertster7 wrote:
Not at all. I just think that La Fayette was an absolute legend (and for me to think that about a Frenchman is quite a big deal) and I have never seen or heard an American offer him any recognition for the enormous role he played in US victory.
Read up on him - he was a great, great leader with great principles.
And in any case he was an American soldier, so honouring him in this thread is entirely appropriate.
He did have some good perks, supporting the fleet, supporting General Washington (very surprising, considering most French Generals were insubordinate, or very near close to it [e.g. Marshal Ney]. He himself did take personal initiative, but it was always well thought out. He did support Washington, and he did help win the war, French support was essential, but I think he himself wasn't all butter on bread.
I'd like to continue this conversation in the Military History thread, or not at all. Thank you.
to pay my respect.
Danish Special Forces & our coalition Forces.
To all the people of iraq. The people that cares about life and order.
Danish Special Forces & our coalition Forces.
To all the people of iraq. The people that cares about life and order.
happy bday ya big bastards you
too bad i got told to fuck off and nobody liked canada when i made a canada day thread on a different forum i post on
too bad i got told to fuck off and nobody liked canada when i made a canada day thread on a different forum i post on
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