Stingray24
Proud member of the vast right-wing conspiracy
+1,060|6889|The Land of Scott Walker
Happy Independence Day everyone!  I hope you all have a good 4th and remember who this holiday truly honors.  The following is dedicated to the brave men and women who have given their lives in service to our country and to those currently risking their lives in our armed forces.  Keep your head low, give the enemy hell, and we hope to see you home soon.  God bless America. 
   
https://www.americanhungarianfederation.org/images/2006_memorialday/Ferencz.JPG






Bertster7
Confused Pothead
+1,101|7025|SE London

What about a little tribute to general La Fayette?

It should really be honouring him too.
GunSlinger OIF II
Banned.
+1,860|7088

Bertster7 wrote:

What about a little tribute to general La Fayette?

It should really be honouring him too.
Not really.  July 4th 1776 was three years before the french lifted a finger to help.
usmarine
Banned
+2,785|7206

GunSlinger OIF II wrote:

Not really.  July 4th 1776 was three years before the french lifted a finger to help.
I would like to thank you for being French.
Bertster7
Confused Pothead
+1,101|7025|SE London

GunSlinger OIF II wrote:

Bertster7 wrote:

What about a little tribute to general La Fayette?

It should really be honouring him too.
Not really.  July 4th 1776 was three years before the french lifted a finger to help.
But you'd have lost without them, so it'd all have amounted to nothing.

In any case, La Fayette was getting stuck in by 1777, that's not 3 years.

Last edited by Bertster7 (2007-07-03 16:05:06)

Stingray24
Proud member of the vast right-wing conspiracy
+1,060|6889|The Land of Scott Walker
This thread is to honor US soldiers.  Feel free to make your own thread about everyone else, Berster.
Bertster7
Confused Pothead
+1,101|7025|SE London

Stingray24 wrote:

This thread is to honor US soldiers.  Feel free to make your own thread about everyone else, Berster.
Typical.

I see some horrendous double standards there....

La Fayette was an absolute legend who very rarely gets the recognition he deserves from the American public. His contributions to the war of independence were as essential as the US involvement in WWII.

Fat lot of gratitude he gets.

Last edited by Bertster7 (2007-07-03 16:15:41)

DeathBecomesYu
Member
+171|6624

Bertster7 wrote:

Stingray24 wrote:

This thread is to honor US soldiers.  Feel free to make your own thread about everyone else, Berster.
Typical.

I see some horrendous double standards there....
Everyone...consider the source...as he calls himself "confused pothead"!

Seriously though...this thread was made to remember, not to start a debate and start a tit for tat. Grow up.
Stingray24
Proud member of the vast right-wing conspiracy
+1,060|6889|The Land of Scott Walker
This thread simply honors those from our nation.  Everyone is free to create a thread honoring those from other nations.
Bertster7
Confused Pothead
+1,101|7025|SE London

Stingray24 wrote:

This thread simply honors those from our nation.  Everyone is free to create a thread honoring those from other nations.
He's someone your nation should be honouring.
Stingray24
Proud member of the vast right-wing conspiracy
+1,060|6889|The Land of Scott Walker
You're free to honor him . . . in A DIFFERENT THREAD.   This is my thread and I am choosing to honor the soldiers of my nation.  Honor the people you wish to honor somewhere else.  Thanks.
-101-InvaderZim
Member
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Lest you Forget The Fallen
DeathBecomesYu
Member
+171|6624

Bertster7 wrote:

Stingray24 wrote:

This thread simply honors those from our nation.  Everyone is free to create a thread honoring those from other nations.
He's someone your nation should be honouring.
You need to relax...i think you have the shakes or munchies or something because you cant control yourself. Look, this is a day we celebrate regardless of how we got there. It is our independence day and we celebrate it as it is. A time to remember our freedom. You need to chill out and respect what the poster was trying to convey to his fellow Americans and quit trying to turn a thread of honoring our soldiers to a low level petty argument. Honestly...its pretty lame.
Bertster7
Confused Pothead
+1,101|7025|SE London

Stingray24 wrote:

You're free to honor him . . . in A DIFFERENT THREAD.   This is my thread and I am choosing to honor the soldiers of my nation.  Honor the people you wish to honor somewhere else.  Thanks.
I don't really care. He hasn't done much for me. But he won you your independence.

I have no reason to honour him, but I have a lot of respect for him and it seems fitting that he should get some sort of mention. Just as the American forces are remembered in Europe on VE day.

You should remember, that without him, your nation would probably not exist.
DesertFox-
The very model of a modern major general
+796|7129|United States of America

Bertster7 wrote:

What about a little tribute to general La Fayette?

It should really be honouring him too.
https://www.lafayette-online.com/transportation/Tipp_map.gif
Huzzah!

Happy Birthday, United States! Still looking good at 231!

On that note, can't wait for fireworks 'n music tonight!
Bertster7
Confused Pothead
+1,101|7025|SE London

DesertFox- wrote:

Bertster7 wrote:

What about a little tribute to general La Fayette?

It should really be honouring him too.
http://www.lafayette-online.com/transpo … pp_map.gif
Huzzah!

Happy Birthday, United States!
Huzzah!
The_Mac
Member
+96|6669

Bertster7 wrote:

Stingray24 wrote:

This thread is to honor US soldiers.  Feel free to make your own thread about everyone else, Berster.
Typical. I see some horrendous double standards there....
La Fayette was an absolute legend who very rarely gets the recognition he deserves from the American public. His contributions to the war of independence were as essential as the US involvement in WWII.
Fat lot of gratitude he gets.
I think somebody is upset the British lost in the US Revolutionary war.
DesertFox-
The very model of a modern major general
+796|7129|United States of America

The_Mac wrote:

Bertster7 wrote:

Stingray24 wrote:

This thread is to honor US soldiers.  Feel free to make your own thread about everyone else, Berster.
Typical. I see some horrendous double standards there....
La Fayette was an absolute legend who very rarely gets the recognition he deserves from the American public. His contributions to the war of independence were as essential as the US involvement in WWII.
Fat lot of gratitude he gets.
I think somebody is upset the British lost in the US Revolutionary war.
Stop. Right now. Do not even go there, for the sake of this topic.
Bertster7
Confused Pothead
+1,101|7025|SE London

The_Mac wrote:

Bertster7 wrote:

Stingray24 wrote:

This thread is to honor US soldiers.  Feel free to make your own thread about everyone else, Berster.
Typical. I see some horrendous double standards there....
La Fayette was an absolute legend who very rarely gets the recognition he deserves from the American public. His contributions to the war of independence were as essential as the US involvement in WWII.
Fat lot of gratitude he gets.
I think somebody is upset the British lost in the US Revolutionary war.
Not at all. I just think that La Fayette was an absolute legend (and for me to think that about a Frenchman is quite a big deal) and I have never seen or heard an American offer him any recognition for the enormous role he played in US victory.

Read up on him - he was a great, great leader with great principles.

And in any case he was an American soldier, so honouring him in this thread is entirely appropriate.

(Anyway, this is getting silly - it was never meant as any sort of disrespect to American soldiers, just added respect for a particular American soldier - it's virtually the same as me giving George Washington a mention)

Last edited by Bertster7 (2007-07-03 16:39:38)

DeathBecomesYu
Member
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I would like to congratulate Berster for dragging a perfectly honest post meant for honoring AMERICAN soldiers through the mud. Couldn't leave well enough alone, you are such a cool guy!
rawls2
Mr. Bigglesworth
+89|7004

Bertster7 wrote:

The_Mac wrote:

Bertster7 wrote:


Typical. I see some horrendous double standards there....
La Fayette was an absolute legend who very rarely gets the recognition he deserves from the American public. His contributions to the war of independence were as essential as the US involvement in WWII.
Fat lot of gratitude he gets.
I think somebody is upset the British lost in the US Revolutionary war.
Not at all. I just think that La Fayette was an absolute legend (and for me to think that about a Frenchman is quite a big deal) and I have never seen or heard an American offer him any recognition for the enormous role he played in US victory.

Read up on him - he was a great, great leader with great principles.

And in any case he was an American soldier, so honouring him in this thread is entirely appropriate.

(Anyway, this is getting silly - it was never meant as any sort of disrespect to American soldiers, just added respect for a particular American soldier - it's virtually the same as me giving George Washington a mention)
If he's the guy they called the swamp fox then yes I learned about him and his adventures in history calss.
GunSlinger OIF II
Banned.
+1,860|7088

rawls2 wrote:

Bertster7 wrote:

The_Mac wrote:


I think somebody is upset the British lost in the US Revolutionary war.
Not at all. I just think that La Fayette was an absolute legend (and for me to think that about a Frenchman is quite a big deal) and I have never seen or heard an American offer him any recognition for the enormous role he played in US victory.

Read up on him - he was a great, great leader with great principles.

And in any case he was an American soldier, so honouring him in this thread is entirely appropriate.

(Anyway, this is getting silly - it was never meant as any sort of disrespect to American soldiers, just added respect for a particular American soldier - it's virtually the same as me giving George Washington a mention)
If he's the guy they called the swamp fox then yes I learned about him and his adventures in history calss.
oh no....he was the french general who was responsible for convincing the french royals to support the colonists in the revolution.  That guy your talking about is name Marion, I think, and hes from South Carolina.   fuck it. theyre both soldiers and they both served for the cause of the United States.


I personally dont really believe that france was anything that tipped the scales in the war against the brits.  If it wasnt for them, the war would have gone on longer than 8 years, but, self rule and independence was here to stay.  just my opinion.
The_Mac
Member
+96|6669

Bertster7 wrote:

Not at all. I just think that La Fayette was an absolute legend (and for me to think that about a Frenchman is quite a big deal) and I have never seen or heard an American offer him any recognition for the enormous role he played in US victory.

Read up on him - he was a great, great leader with great principles.

And in any case he was an American soldier, so honouring him in this thread is entirely appropriate.
Good--speaking as the founder of the Military History Thread which can be found here, I invite you to please contribute and show us how educated you are about General Lafayette. Me personally, I am a little more critical. His tactics were continental, conformist type, and his troops he expected to follow all orders, and believed personal initiative from people below himself was dangerous.
He did have some good perks, supporting the fleet, supporting General Washington (very surprising, considering most French Generals were insubordinate, or very near close to it [e.g. Marshal Ney]. He himself did take personal initiative, but it was always well thought out. He did support Washington, and he did help win the war, French support was essential, but I think he himself wasn't all butter on bread.

I'd like to continue this conversation in the Military History thread, or not at all. Thank you.
Danorge
Member
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to pay my respect. 

Danish Special Forces & our coalition Forces.

To all the people of iraq. The people that cares about life and order.
krazed
Admiral of the Bathtub
+619|7224|Great Brown North
happy bday ya big bastards you  

too bad i got told to fuck off and nobody liked canada when i made a canada day thread on a different forum i post on

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