Fps/psu

2007-07-03 23:45:27

#1

Mitch92uK: aka [DBS]Mitch92uK; +192|6707|United Kingdom

hey guys,

k i'm wondering if you can help me out ... i have these specs :

Pentium 4 w/Ht 3.0Ghz
1.5G PC3200 RAM
Stock Gigabyte Mobo
512mb Palit 7900GS
X-fi Extreme Gamer - (i run all sounds at ultra high under the x-fi option, no probs here)

I run these video settings :

https://img168.imageshack.us/img168/3353/videoao9.jpg

I get a max of 30/40FPS and often lag (seems to be worse in bf2142 than bf2 where all settings are high) and i was wondering ... could be stock 315W PSU be killing my frames? It was originally from PC world but since buying it have added the 7900GS, more RAM and an x-fi .... opinions please - i've tested it with some onnline PSU calculators ... to find i should have like a 450/500W PSU ....

thanks,
mitch

Last edited by mitch212k_2 (2007-07-03 23:46:32)

2007-07-04 07:28:09

#2

Mitch92uK: aka [DBS]Mitch92uK; +192|6707|United Kingdom

nobody?

2007-07-04 07:31:25

#3

Bertster7: Confused Pothead; +1,101|7053|SE London

You should need more than 315W.

You should be getting better fps than that too.

2007-07-04 07:43:11

#4

kylef: Gone; +1,352|6965|N. Ireland

A few things to take note of:

- You are running at a non-standard resolution, and it is quite high which is why you are experience a low FPS;
- You appear to be running at a view-scale of 100%, which could be too much perhaps?

2007-07-04 08:04:56

#5

max: Vela Incident; +1,652|7039|NYC / Hamburg

using a too low powered PSU would lead to crashes and instability not low FPS generally. Your CPU seems to be holding you back

leetkyle wrote:
- You are running at a non-standard resolution, and it is quite high which is why you are experience a low FPS;

no, not really. His res is not so much higher than the standard 1280x1024

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2007-07-04 08:05:27

#6

Bertster7: Confused Pothead; +1,101|7053|SE London

leetkyle wrote:
A few things to take note of:

- You are running at a non-standard resolution, and it is quite high which is why you are experience a low FPS;
- You appear to be running at a view-scale of 100%, which could be too much perhaps?

The non-standard resolution could be a factor.

You should ALWAYS, ALWAYS, ALWAYS run BF2/2142 at maximum view distance, even if it means running lower settings. Not doing so is really stupid.

2007-07-04 08:21:24

#7

Mitch92uK: aka [DBS]Mitch92uK; +192|6707|United Kingdom

will this make much of a diference? http://www.ebuyer.com/customer/products … uid=112899

max wrote:
using a too low powered PSU would lead to crashes and instability not low FPS generally. Your CPU seems to be holding you back

leetkyle wrote:
- You are running at a non-standard resolution, and it is quite high which is why you are experience a low FPS;
no, not really. His res is not so much higher than the standard 1280x1024

bert, kyle, and max +1 for help so far
do you think overclocking my CPU would help ... ?

cheers for replies guys

2007-07-04 08:22:56

#8

max: Vela Incident; +1,652|7039|NYC / Hamburg

Bertster7 wrote:
leetkyle wrote:
A few things to take note of:

- You are running at a non-standard resolution, and it is quite high which is why you are experience a low FPS;
- You appear to be running at a view-scale of 100%, which could be too much perhaps?
The non-standard resolution could be a factor.

You should ALWAYS, ALWAYS, ALWAYS run BF2/2142 at maximum view distance, even if it means running lower settings. Not doing so is really stupid.

well when I change from 1280x1024 to 1440x900 (roughly the same no. of pixels) I don't notice any difference in fps. And going to 1680x1050 the FPS scale perfectly for the higher res.

Max view distance FTW!

EDIT: sure a nice OC on that CPU would help loads

Last edited by max (2007-07-04 08:23:33)

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2007-07-04 08:23:06

#9

Bertster7: Confused Pothead; +1,101|7053|SE London

mitch212k_2 wrote:
will this make much of a diference? http://www.ebuyer.com/customer/products … uid=112899
max wrote:
using a too low powered PSU would lead to crashes and instability not low FPS generally. Your CPU seems to be holding you back

leetkyle wrote:
- You are running at a non-standard resolution, and it is quite high which is why you are experience a low FPS;
no, not really. His res is not so much higher than the standard 1280x1024
bert, kyle, and max +1 for help so far
do you think overclocking my CPU would help ... ?

cheers for replies guys

If it is the PSU being underpowered, which is quite possible, OCing would make it worse, not better.

2007-07-04 09:14:07

#10

Mitch92uK: aka [DBS]Mitch92uK; +192|6707|United Kingdom

Bertster7 wrote:
mitch212k_2 wrote:
will this make much of a diference? http://www.ebuyer.com/customer/products … uid=112899
max wrote:
using a too low powered PSU would lead to crashes and instability not low FPS generally. Your CPU seems to be holding you back

no, not really. His res is not so much higher than the standard 1280x1024
bert, kyle, and max +1 for help so far
do you think overclocking my CPU would help ... ?

cheers for replies guys
If it is the PSU being underpowered, which is quite possible, OCing would make it worse, not better.

yah, i agree bertster - but what if i were to get the PSU i linked to, then overclock it?

2007-07-04 09:19:55

#11

Bertster7: Confused Pothead; +1,101|7053|SE London

mitch212k_2 wrote:
Bertster7 wrote:
mitch212k_2 wrote:
will this make much of a diference? http://www.ebuyer.com/customer/products … uid=112899
bert, kyle, and max +1 for help so far
do you think overclocking my CPU would help ... ?

cheers for replies guys
If it is the PSU being underpowered, which is quite possible, OCing would make it worse, not better.
yah, i agree bertster - but what if i were to get the PSU i linked to, then overclock it?

That'd be ok. Don't OC too much though.

OCing your GPU would help more for upping graphics settings.

What is your monitors native res (I'm guessing 1680x1050)? You should play in that - it always looks much better, might run faster too - since it's usually better supported, despite being a higher resolution. 1400x1050 is weird.

2007-07-04 09:32:33

#12

Mitch92uK: aka [DBS]Mitch92uK; +192|6707|United Kingdom

1440x900 is my monitor resolution - how much would you recommend overclocking my gfx card by? this is a screenie of my gfx card clocks at present (default):

https://img233.imageshack.us/img233/7803/gfxclockssw3.png

I have this card : http://www.palit.biz/en/products/nv_pcie_7900GS.html

also ... how do you work out the memory clock? it says 1320mhz on the specs but in Ati tool says 660mhz?

Last edited by mitch212k_2 (2007-07-04 09:35:02)

2007-07-04 09:38:54

#13

Bertster7: Confused Pothead; +1,101|7053|SE London

mitch212k_2 wrote:
1440x900 is my monitor resolution - how much would you recommend overclocking my gfx card by? this is a screenie of my gfx card clocks at present (default): http://img233.imageshack.us/img233/7803 … ckssw3.png

I have this card : http://www.palit.biz/en/products/nv_pcie_7900GS.html

also ... how do you work out the memory clock? it says 1320mhz on the specs but in Ati tool says 660mhz?

If your monitor res is 1440x900 why are you running it at a resolution your monitor can't display?

Run it at 1440x900, that's a much more normal resolution that the game is probably optimised for.

2007-07-04 09:42:41

#14

Mitch92uK: aka [DBS]Mitch92uK; +192|6707|United Kingdom

Bertster7 wrote:
mitch212k_2 wrote:
1440x900 is my monitor resolution - how much would you recommend overclocking my gfx card by? this is a screenie of my gfx card clocks at present (default): http://img233.imageshack.us/img233/7803 … ckssw3.png

I have this card : http://www.palit.biz/en/products/nv_pcie_7900GS.html

also ... how do you work out the memory clock? it says 1320mhz on the specs but in Ati tool says 660mhz?
If your monitor res is 1440x900 why are you running it at a resolution your monitor can't display?

Run it at 1440x900, that's a much more normal resolution that the game is probably optimised for.

Ok i've changed the res on the target bert, but do i have to change the res in-game from the video optoins or not?

2007-07-04 09:45:23

#15

r2zoo: Knowledge is power, guard it well; +126|7067|Michigan, USA

I run the exact same settings, aside from Resoultion, and with a 7600GT,AMD Athlon 3200+,768mb of DDR2 and i easily get 50ishFps, so theres acouple of issues. The 7900's have PCI-E power connecters correct? If he doesnt have his card hooked up to one it will seriously effect performence, as well as the PSU not pumping out enough amperage on the 12v rails. Its not the wattage that matters, its the amperage with PSUs, but in general: Higher wattage=higher 12v rail amperage.

2007-07-04 09:45:34

#16

Bertster7: Confused Pothead; +1,101|7053|SE London

mitch212k_2 wrote:
Bertster7 wrote:
mitch212k_2 wrote:
1440x900 is my monitor resolution - how much would you recommend overclocking my gfx card by? this is a screenie of my gfx card clocks at present (default): http://img233.imageshack.us/img233/7803 … ckssw3.png

I have this card : http://www.palit.biz/en/products/nv_pcie_7900GS.html

also ... how do you work out the memory clock? it says 1320mhz on the specs but in Ati tool says 660mhz?
If your monitor res is 1440x900 why are you running it at a resolution your monitor can't display?

Run it at 1440x900, that's a much more normal resolution that the game is probably optimised for.
Ok i've changed the res on the target bert, but do i have to change the res in-game from the video optoins or not?

Not.

I dunno how much to OC your GPU, as it's not one I'm familiar with. Just do the usual gradual increments running benchmarks till you get artifacting then turn it down a few notches. The memory clock is going to be doubled, that's why 660=1320.

Last edited by Bertster7 (2007-07-04 09:47:04)

2007-07-04 09:47:41

#17

Mitch92uK: aka [DBS]Mitch92uK; +192|6707|United Kingdom

what do you mean by that bert? nudging up the clocks and checking for problems?

2007-07-04 09:58:36

#18

Bertster7: Confused Pothead; +1,101|7053|SE London

mitch212k_2 wrote:
what do you mean by that bert? nudging up the clocks and checking for problems?

That's exactly what I mean.

2007-07-04 10:02:28

#19

RDMC: Enemy Wheelbarrow Spotted..!!; +736|7036|Area 51

If it is any help:

Specs:

AMD Athlon 3800 +
Nvidia 7600 GT 256mb
2 GB G.E.I.L RAM PC6400
K9N (570 force SLI) mobo
430 watt PSU
Resolution: 1280 x 1024.

And I run the game with a mix of medium/high without AA.

Also make sure that your native refresh rate is the same as with your ingame refresh rate, for me that is 60hz.

Last edited by RDMC(2) (2007-07-04 10:04:48)

2007-07-04 10:14:17

#20

Mitch92uK: aka [DBS]Mitch92uK; +192|6707|United Kingdom

RDMC(2) wrote:
If it is any help:

Specs:

AMD Athlon 3800 +
Nvidia 7600 GT 256mb
2 GB G.E.I.L RAM PC6400
K9N (570 force SLI) mobo
430 watt PSU
Resolution: 1280 x 1024.

And I run the game with a mix of medium/high without AA.

Also make sure that your native refresh rate is the same as with your ingame refresh rate, for me that is 60hz.

cheers RDMC .. similar set-ups, though my PSU is significantly weaker

2007-07-04 10:47:20

#21

RDMC: Enemy Wheelbarrow Spotted..!!; +736|7036|Area 51

mitch212k_2 wrote:
RDMC(2) wrote:
If it is any help:

Specs:

AMD Athlon 3800 +
Nvidia 7600 GT 256mb
2 GB G.E.I.L RAM PC6400
K9N (570 force SLI) mobo
430 watt PSU
Resolution: 1280 x 1024.

And I run the game with a mix of medium/high without AA.

Also make sure that your native refresh rate is the same as with your ingame refresh rate, for me that is 60hz.
cheers RDMC .. similar set-ups, though my PSU is significantly weaker

Well as long as it is doing fine than there is no need to feel sad about it right?

2007-07-04 11:01:31

#22

Mitch92uK: aka [DBS]Mitch92uK; +192|6707|United Kingdom

RDMC(2) wrote:
mitch212k_2 wrote:
RDMC(2) wrote:
If it is any help:

Specs:

AMD Athlon 3800 +
Nvidia 7600 GT 256mb
2 GB G.E.I.L RAM PC6400
K9N (570 force SLI) mobo
430 watt PSU
Resolution: 1280 x 1024.

And I run the game with a mix of medium/high without AA.

Also make sure that your native refresh rate is the same as with your ingame refresh rate, for me that is 60hz.
cheers RDMC .. similar set-ups, though my PSU is significantly weaker
Well as long as it is doing fine than there is no need to feel sad about it right?

your CPU is 2.4Ghz correct? mine's 3, with a more powerful gfx card but slower RAM, so i'd like to run it a little high er still :p

2007-07-04 11:34:28

#23

Bertster7: Confused Pothead; +1,101|7053|SE London

mitch212k_2 wrote:
RDMC(2) wrote:
mitch212k_2 wrote:

cheers RDMC .. similar set-ups, though my PSU is significantly weaker
Well as long as it is doing fine than there is no need to feel sad about it right?
your CPU is 2.4Ghz correct? mine's 3, with a more powerful gfx card but slower RAM, so i'd like to run it a little high er still :p

His CPU is faster than yours. Clock rates don't mean shit.

2007-07-04 11:54:02

#24

RDMC: Enemy Wheelbarrow Spotted..!!; +736|7036|Area 51

Bertster7 wrote:
mitch212k_2 wrote:
RDMC(2) wrote:

Well as long as it is doing fine than there is no need to feel sad about it right?
your CPU is 2.4Ghz correct? mine's 3, with a more powerful gfx card but slower RAM, so i'd like to run it a little high er still :p
His CPU is faster than yours. Clock rates don't mean shit.

Between AMD and Intel, clock rates don't mean shit, but in the end, you probably need a new CPU, and maybe a better PSU.

2007-07-04 11:55:43

#25

Mitch92uK: aka [DBS]Mitch92uK; +192|6707|United Kingdom

i'll probs go with a new PSU, then like bert said i can do some OCing of my CPU and Graphics Card

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