Like I said, the Bible is very silent about the issue. We can ask all sorts of questions about what Satan's role was in heaven, when he rebelled, how many demons fell, where they were sent when they fell, why some angels fell and the rest didn't and if they can still fall etc. The NT doesn't attempt to answer that, only to warn of who the enemy is and how he works, and even then there are some things that remain a mystery. It helps with the "faith" factor if you will.Lai wrote:
Deserved to be worshipped by whom?Phrozenbot wrote:
Paradise Lost? That's not Biblical. First, you need to know that Satan and a third of the angels (now called fallen angels or demons) fell before man and earth was created. Why was Satan cast out of heaven? It is a little uncertain, as the Bible is a little silent about it. All I know is that he was proud, and his pride must have led him to believe he deserved to be worshiped, and that he didn't have to worship God. Paul, one of the apostles, said he saw God him cast out like lightning. He wasn't casted out to hell, but out of heaven. Some say he was thrown to Earth, and others says the Abyss. I've also heard Tartarus, but I believe that is just a Greek translation for Gehenna (or maybe Final Hell), as Hades is Greek for Sheol.
Was he aware that man would be created?
Obviously Satan could not have been thrown to earth if he fell before it was created.
On the Greek "translations", the Greek polytheistic concepts and that of the Tartarus predate any Biblical ones.
And, as I said, he was cast out of Heaven, but no where does it say where, although the Abyss is a place where demons and other creatures have been locked up. And you're right, you can't be thrown down to Earth if it never existed, but man can't exist if earth didn't, and you're opinion was Satan felt humans were not worthy of living in Paradise. Well, man was created in the likeness of God, and the angles were not, so you can make an opinion on who is more worthy.
About the Greek translations. Yes I know, but what are the Greeks going to do, make a new word for a concept that already exists? Sheol = Hebrew for place of the dead, much like Hades, Gehenna = Hebrew for Hell, similar to Tartarus, although I think it's referred to once in some English translations. The Christian underworld has various different places, and hell is made up of a few.