Havok wrote:
David.P wrote:
Islamification now just like Communism earlier. Only difference is 1 is an idealogy the other is a religion and no matter what you do you cannot justify the elimination of a religious group.(Maybe scientology but thats another story)
Scientology isn't a religion, it's a cult of stupidity.
QFT
But anyway, I'd say pussification is least of these 3 evils.
Islamification/Islamism is probably the worst, closely followed by lootification.
I say Islamification/Islamism because it not only is a problem unto itself (like any form of religious militance), but it provides an environment for lootification to continue.
After 9/11, a lot of Americans support interventionism to a much greater degree than before. It's funny to think of it now, but Bush actually campaigned in 2000 on a platform of isolationism. The average American was reluctant to get us involved in Middle Eastern affairs, despite previous acts of terror made against us. Yet, this reluctance was well-founded. We
should be reluctant to mess with the Middle East.
History has shown the region to be highly volatile. Our influence isn't going to make things significantly better, and now that Iraq is so chaotic, it's pretty obvious that things have gotten worse due to our involvement.
Because of things like the Iraq War, now, it seems acceptable to intervene in Middle Eastern affairs. The most common justification used involves the idea that if we don't get involved more 9/11's will occur. Despite the absurdity of this notion, it's an easy sell to a paranoid public.
In effect, Osama and his cohorts serve the interests of war profiteering more than their own interests, because the fear they invoke through their insane actions is capitalized on by the military industrial complex. They are a faceless enemy that is perfect for justifying continual war.
Less Americans would be willing to support our continued presence in Iraq if our enemies weren't so flat out crazy.
So, ultimately, extremism in the Islamic World is the main thing to blame here as a threat to America and the world as a whole because of the ease at which our governments can now manipulate us.