Flaming_Maniac
prince of insufficient light
+2,490|7144|67.222.138.85
Should this be the ideal that dictates the every-day working of Western society? All public works, laws, law enforcement is all centered around trying to be as idiot-proof as possible, and giving slack for, if not rewarding those who either prove to be stupid enough or pretend to be stupid enough to make even the most idiot-proof systems fail.

For example the Miranda Warning only came into effect after some idiot raped a woman, confessed to the crime, but later got out of punishment because he claimed to not have known his rights at the time of confession. Even when we have a jury of our peers, justice is still hampered by inane laws and regulations that stop common sense.

Now some of this bureaucracy may be necessary to keep vigilante justice and corrupt officials from completely taking over the justice system, but it seems like the complications of legal proceedings are only making the loopholes bigger and bigger for many obviously guilty criminals to get out of punishment.

When do we tell the lawyers to shut the hell up and use some common sense? Should a limit be set on how much sense people must have to operate normally in our society and everyone without that much sense can get lost in the shuffle, or do we continue to pander to the most intelligent forsaken being in the country?
stryyker
bad touch
+1,682|7157|California

As long as lawyers exist, there will be no such things as a fair trial.
Flaming_Maniac
prince of insufficient light
+2,490|7144|67.222.138.85

stryyker wrote:

As long as lawyers exist, there will be no such things as a fair trial.
Well let's get to work on getting rid of the lawyers then.
Heavy_Guns_91
I hand out purple hearts like candy
+72|6840|Alberta, Canada

Flaming_Maniac wrote:

stryyker wrote:

As long as lawyers exist, there will be no such things as a fair trial.
Well let's get to work on getting rid of the lawyers then.
Let people speak for themselves... I wonder how that'd turn out>
stryyker
bad touch
+1,682|7157|California

Heavy_Guns_91 wrote:

Flaming_Maniac wrote:

stryyker wrote:

As long as lawyers exist, there will be no such things as a fair trial.
Well let's get to work on getting rid of the lawyers then.
Let people speak for themselves... I wonder how that'd turn out>
Thats where the right to a fair and speedy trial would come into play.
konfusion
mostly afk
+480|6987|CH/BR - in UK

I agree that no lawyers out there have common sense, and that people should speak for themselves, but I think that that way, you would have a lot more stupid people in jail than intelligent ones, because not everyone is really good with words. This brings out the second meaning in "a chain is only as strong as it's weakest link". I suppose it would make society more efficient with a higher average IQ

-konfusion
Skorpy-chan
Member
+127|6782|Twyford, UK
You are the weakest link. Goodbye.

Frankly, lawyers should be severely restricted and paid a HELL of a lot less. And bureaucrats should be replaced with computer programs.
'But what about our jobs?!?', they'll cry. My response is simply 'get a real job that involves actual WORK'.
Flaming_Maniac
prince of insufficient light
+2,490|7144|67.222.138.85

Skorpy-chan wrote:

You are the weakest link. Goodbye.

Frankly, lawyers should be severely restricted and paid a HELL of a lot less. And bureaucrats should be replaced with computer programs.
'But what about our jobs?!?', they'll cry. My response is simply 'get a real job that involves actual WORK'.
So when you put half the people out of a job from the largest employer in the world, the US government, what are you going to do about the craptastic economy?
IRONCHEF
Member
+385|6928|Northern California
I'm at a law firm now and they're ready for battle with you.  They have staked out the doors and windows with handfuls of law books and thousand page pleadings ready to take you down to chinatown!  And i'm being held captive.
Flaming_Maniac
prince of insufficient light
+2,490|7144|67.222.138.85

IRONCHEF wrote:

I'm at a law firm now and they're ready for battle with you.  They have staked out the doors and windows with handfuls of law books and thousand page pleadings ready to take you down to chinatown!  And i'm being held captive.
Tell them I'll burn them all out with fire. Out of the law firm, out of our government.

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