BF2S Forums Who should keep the OT's?

CameronPoe wrote:

M.O.A.B wrote:

CameronPoe wrote:

Spearhead I do preach non-interventionism and isolationism, which is made difficult by those who can't abide by their own borders.

But what I don't understand is they're not your borders, so why leave your isolationist ideas to worry about the borders of another coutnry?

It's the principle of the thing. It stems from what happened to my own country at the hands of the Brits.

Cougar wrote:

CameronPoe wrote:

M.O.A.B wrote:

But what I don't understand is they're not your borders, so why leave your isolationist ideas to worry about the borders of another coutnry?

It's the principle of the thing. It stems from what happened to my own country at the hands of the Brits.

Well I don't think Britain fucked Ireland anywhere near as hard as Israel fucks Palestine. 

But honestly, I do wonder why you care so much.  No matter how many people you talk to about it, how many forums you post on about it, or how far and wide you can spread your message, it is never going to change anything.  Israel will do what Israel wants to do and no one can change that.  They do not care about sanctions, resolutions or any wrist slaps the U.N. hands out, why would they care about what any of you people think?

I think the best we can do is shut up, tune in, watch, listen and hope for the best.

CameronPoe wrote:

Cougar wrote:

CameronPoe wrote:

It's the principle of the thing. It stems from what happened to my own country at the hands of the Brits.

Well I don't think Britain fucked Ireland anywhere near as hard as Israel fucks Palestine. 

But honestly, I do wonder why you care so much.  No matter how many people you talk to about it, how many forums you post on about it, or how far and wide you can spread your message, it is never going to change anything.  Israel will do what Israel wants to do and no one can change that.  They do not care about sanctions, resolutions or any wrist slaps the U.N. hands out, why would they care about what any of you people think?

I think the best we can do is shut up, tune in, watch, listen and hope for the best.

Your point is perfectly valid but this is a discussion forum where a great many things over which we can have no control gets discussed. It's just conversation at the end of the day Cougar.

Cougar wrote:

sergeriver wrote:

Cougar wrote:

Well I don't think Britain fucked Ireland anywhere near as hard as Israel fucks Palestine. 

But honestly, I do wonder why you care so much.  No matter how many people you talk to about it, how many forums you post on about it, or how far and wide you can spread your message, it is never going to change anything.  Israel will do what Israel wants to do and no one can change that.  They do not care about sanctions, resolutions or any wrist slaps the U.N. hands out, why would they care about what any of you people think?


I think the best we can do is shut up, tune in, watch, listen and hope for the best.

With your line of thinking nobody would 'waste' his time to support oppressed people.  If everyone cares, someone should listen, some day.

No.  Actually they won't.


I would love to see you prove your point against.....lets say, STALIN.

Cougar wrote:

sergeriver wrote:

Cougar wrote:

No.  Actually they won't.


I would love to see you prove your point against.....lets say, STALIN.

There was no internet back then.

Yes because the internet can and will topple governments.

No.

Cougar wrote:

When it gets discussed everyday for 2 years, I think the topic evolves into something more than that.  I think this topic has been beaten to death, buried, drug up and beaten again even harder.

I really don't see the point of even discussing it any longer.

Last edited by CameronPoe (2007-12-17 13:49:52)

Kmarion wrote:

CameronPoe wrote:

Seriously, I do not enjoy having to repeat the details of the Balfour Declaration or the sequence of events in 1967 to every newbie on the forum but it's hard to get people not to digress to such matters.

You should try and squeeze the breakdown in your signature.

Dilbert_X wrote:

My solution: "The Great Build"-A contribution of $$ from all the big countries to an Israeli/Palestinian fund set up to build settlements for Palestinians built by Palestinians. Get them working, put them in a home, put up Palestinian flags and hope the violence ends long enought to see this happen. Then it wont be so hard for Israel to recognize a Pal state.

How about we build these Palestinian settlements in Israel? Bulldoze a few jewish homes, shoot a few kids in the head etc to make some space.
Seems fair...

chuyskywalker wrote:

Cougar & sergeriver: I don't really care who started it -- either you discuss things civilly or you can both take a vacation from posting.

DesertFox- wrote:

Within the title question, what are the OT's?

Consider what peace with Israel - real peace - would mean in the West Bank and Gaza, in southern Lebanon and the Bekaa Valley: Tens of thousands of gunmen (and terrorists) out of work, with no marketable skills - and radicalized by decades of fanatic rhetoric.