GunSlinger OIF II
Banned.
+1,860|7125
send him to a concentration camp
delta4bravo*nl*
Dutch Delight
+68|7233
all dead people are good people.
Vilham
Say wat!?
+580|7247|UK
And... he didnt say what Hitler did was right... He even says "using a twisted, backwards logic" implying its a bad logic.
mikeyb118
Evil Overlord
+76|7079|S.C.

GunSlinger OIF II wrote:

send him to a concentration camp
Go easy on those painkillers! Dont go mixing them either!
twiistaaa
Member
+87|7149|mexico
https://ccinsider.comedycentral.com/photos/uncategorized/claytonbigsby.jpg

hate hate hate hate hate
mcminty
Moderating your content for the Australian Govt.
+879|7202|Sydney, Australia

blademaster wrote:

"I think he woke up in the morning and using a twisted, backwards logic, he set out to do what he thought was 'good'. Stuff like that just needs reprogramming."
Don't they have a journalistic code of ethics? To make the assertion between Smith saying "Hitler though he was doing a good thing" and Smith saying "Hitler was a good person" is pure sensationalised crap.
Liberal-Sl@yer
Certified BF2S Asshole
+131|6937|The edge of sanity
What most people do not understand is that it was Hienrick Himmler who proposed and executed the final solution.
Mitch
16 more years
+877|7006|South Florida

some_random_panda wrote:

Hitler wanted to establish an Aryan race.  Unfortuantely that meant genocide, but hey, that's a good thing when applied to one race.   /sarcasm

"Mein Hund hat keine Nase."
"Wie riecht er?"
"Schrecklich!"
Hense the Aryan brotherhood, the toughest, most intellegent, elite prison gang.
15 more years! 15 more years!
FatherTed
xD
+3,936|6981|so randum

Liberal-Sl@yer wrote:

What most people do not understand is that it was Hienrick Himmler who proposed and executed the final solution.
You ever seen "Bruder Eichmann"?

Very good play.
Small hourglass island
Always raining and foggy
Use an umbrella
krazed
Admiral of the Bathtub
+619|7261|Great Brown North
lol at people being sheep
ATG
Banned
+5,233|7010|Global Command

blademaster wrote:

jord wrote:

He's probably right, Hitler is his own way thought he was helping the world. So what? It doesn't mean Will Smith believes what he does was right.
Well, hitler was not right its not right to kill millions in order justify your dreams. He might of thought he was right in his brain but ethically and morally he was wrong.
Thank you Captain Obvious.
Defiance
Member
+438|7152

So, he's saying that Hitler was mentally "incorrect?" Maybe a bit unstable and sick?

Yeah, that's actually a pretty reasonable thing to say. Too bad that's too much complex thought for the typical media guzzling couch potato.

Last edited by Defiance (2007-12-23 23:26:35)

The_Guardsman
Tally Ho!!
+81|7226|I'm not sure.... Buts its dark
Hitler was a good person..... Just think how much he saved us when he topped himself. Did'nt have to pay for a trial, did'nt have to pay for him to spend time at Spandau prison and did'nt have to spend any money on rounds to slot the bugger! Oh and there would have been no end of arguments on where he gets executed and the such!


Merry Christmas!
Jibbles
Rifle Expert
+56|7110|Mexifornia, USA
Anyone ever heard of Stalin?
[pt] KEIOS
srs bsns
+231|7134|pimelteror.de

kylef wrote:

The funny thing is, he's serious in that he wants to run for President some day.
He would be a better President, than your actual. And even Arnold Schwarzenegger is now a governor...
suomalainen_äijä
Member
+64|6646
how the hell someone could say something like that?
Vilham
Say wat!?
+580|7247|UK

suomalainen_äijä wrote:

how the hell someone could say something like that?
Quite easily. Read some books.
robthemadman
Always blame it on the ping
+63|6817
I like how the headline is Smith: 'Hitler was a good person' without him ever actually saying that, or coming particularly close.
Invaderzim
Chicken wing?
+49|6929|Newcastle NSW Australia
It's quite reasonable for him to say that. If you consider the mindset of hitler then what Will said is true. Whats right and wrong is only determined by the ideas and feelings of the majority.
Rick_Biessman
Member
+4|7258|Germany

FatherTed wrote:

Gamematt wrote:

Well a lot of their greatness today is due to the loans they got after ww2 to build theire country up again.
They had like the most advanced industrie of everything for like a few decades? I don't know if hitler did much good than just make a war, lose and get loans.
Main infrastructure (i.e Autobahns) - Hitlers idea
Boost to automobile industry,and therefore BMW, Audi, Mercedes, VW - Hitlers idea
Boost to manufacturing industry (albeit through demand due to militarisation) - caused by Hitler
Reduction in unemployment - Started circa mid 1920's, sorted out by NSDAP regime
Improved economy - Started circa mid 1920's, sorted out by NSDAP regime


Again, this good imho in no way outweighs the bad stuff that happend from 33-45.
First of all: NSDAP had the power from 1933 to 1945, not earlier.

- Autobahns weren't invented by Hitler, he just boosted it. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_Autobahns
- The German industry was suppressed by the winners of WW I. And when a country wants to go into a war (or is forced to), the industry gets boosted (see USA in WW II). It's neither a german phenomenon nor Hitlers credit. The rest is also industrialization and standing up after a war.
- Unemployment: Many were forced to work, the Wehrmacht had to grow ...

Development after WW II:
Much of the old industry was destroyed or dismantled for reparation transfers soon after 1945. And when the "West" realized, that a strong Germany is a better buffer against the Red Army, they had to help to raise the economy again.

At last: I wonder what the world would be, when the NSDAP regime had not happened like that. But unfortunately, we will never know.
But I hope it will be a memorial for all people, where racism, ignorance and dictatorship can lead to.
kylef
Gone
+1,352|6974|N. Ireland

[pt] KEIOS wrote:

kylef wrote:

The funny thing is, he's serious in that he wants to run for President some day.
He would be a better President, than your actual. And even Arnold Schwarzenegger is now a governor...
I don't have a President. I have a Prime Minister
kylef
Gone
+1,352|6974|N. Ireland
Autobahns were pushed forward because the main idea of Hitler's employment program was to reduce the numbers. Women and children were excluded because women were meant to work in the home, and children to work at school. The German RAD and so on was built to reduce the unemployment rate - jobs were pretty awful, but they paid and you got lunch and that is what mattered back then.
NantanCochise
Member
+55|6460|Portugal/United States

Sgt.Davi wrote:

Woah.

He's being philosophical but my God the press will twist this so much...
Well put, exactly what I was thinking, +1 karma for you...
heggs
Spamalamadingdong
+581|6869|New York
It's not that far off. People that are missing a few marbles tend to think what they are doing is ok, regardless of how wrong it really is.

Smith was doing nothing more than thinking the situation through, and I think he hit the nail on the head. To take this idea a bit further, Hitler had some serious hate issues, and he went way too far with his actions. But again, Hitler probably thought this was fine and what he was doing was for the greater good. The problem with this combination is that these people tend to take it too far and end up practicing genocide on some level. Now, I'm not condoning Hitler's actions (and I know Smith wasn't either), but that's probably what happened.

Edit: And yeah, journalists are pretty fucking pathetic. Let's misconstrue what was said to make a big deal out of nothing. I have no respect for journalists whatsoever. They can write well, but they mostly write garbage.

Last edited by heggs (2007-12-24 11:55:30)

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loubot
O' HAL naw!
+470|7059|Columbus, OH

Canin wrote:

BALTINS wrote:

Could it be that Scientology finally got Will Smith?
I hope not. I am afraid if it did he would turn into another of the toms.
I'd say so.....now we watch him go downhill from here, but MAYBE what he said was taken out of context. I believe what he is trying to say people have the best intentions but some times YOUR best intentions are not for everyone. Though using Hitler as an example is bad. My best guess

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