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The#1Spot wrote:

haffeysucks wrote:

jsnipy wrote:

7950gx2
...that's like $400.   Might as well get a 8800 Ultra for that price.

Ender2309 wrote:

my 7900gs runs cod4 at all highs w/' greater than 40 fps. i turned it down to highs/meds though for greater than 90 in most cases. try to do what flaming said or scrape cash for an 8800.
Depressing.  Multiplayer?

I gotta try running it on all high with my card...

Edit: The X1950 seems like a pretty good card for the price...
Why not a 3850.
Its pci-e 2.0
dx 10
and it dosent really break the bank.
You will save money in the long term.
You know he's right.  I dunno if it is just me but there is so much hype over that GT, I forget about the 3850/70.

Excellent point.

Martyn
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haffeysucks wrote:

jsnipy wrote:

7950gx2
...that's like $400.   Might as well get a 8800 Ultra for that price.

Ender2309 wrote:

my 7900gs runs cod4 at all highs w/' greater than 40 fps. i turned it down to highs/meds though for greater than 90 in most cases. try to do what flaming said or scrape cash for an 8800.
Depressing.  Multiplayer?

I gotta try running it on all high with my card...

Edit: The X1950 seems like a pretty good card for the price...
haven't tried it with multiplayer, but probably not as there's so much going on. it would still be doable though (above 32).
Crypto_420
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im running 2 x 7950 which kicks ass still, sure its not dx10 but I did spend 500 on one and 250 on the other a year later so im not looking forward to buying another video card anytime soon.  I feel if I was to buy a 8800 I would see a lose in score do to the fact im down grading from 2 cards to 1, SLI kicks ass.   

BTW My vista score is 5.9 on everything but processor, which is 5.3 so I will be upgrading that first.

But, your friend doesnt have a 7950 yet, and its like 200 bucks,  I would never spend that much on old technology so I would either go with the 3850 or a slim down 8800.  Like someone said above you dont need to run dx10 just because you have a card that supports it.  XP still boots with no problems.
nukchebi0
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I think it is the X1950XTX.
Flaming_Maniac
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DeathUnlimited wrote:

Flaming_Maniac wrote:

But there is a good chance even a lower end 8 series will run better than a higher end last gen card.
8600 loses to x19xx's, to 7900's, and in some benchmarks even to 7600GT
Yeah, but at what games and what resolutions. If, for example, the DX9 card has more memory and they run a game at some crazy 1800x1000 resolution then the DX9 will probably win, from sheer bandwidth. If your friend is running a more reasonable resolution, the 8600GT will start to pull ahead more.

As people are seeing, the problem is with the enthusiast level cards, it's no straight price/performance line, it's a very steep curve. Even with the next gen out, the true top of the line cards are still going to cost you.
Dragonclaw
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_NL_Lt.EngineerFox wrote:

Best DX9 card: 7950GX2 and X1950XTX
Best DX10 card: 8800Ultra
Isnt the 8800GTS 512MB better than the 8800Ultra?

Last edited by Dragonclaw (2007-12-31 08:49:16)

Sydney
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Dragonclaw wrote:

_NL_Lt.EngineerFox wrote:

Best DX9 card: 7950GX2 and X1950XTX
Best DX10 card: 8800Ultra
Isnt the 8800GTS 512MB better than the 8800Ultra?
No way.

GTS > GT > GTX > Ultra
jsnipy
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PBAsydney wrote:

Dragonclaw wrote:

_NL_Lt.EngineerFox wrote:

Best DX9 card: 7950GX2 and X1950XTX
Best DX10 card: 8800Ultra
Isnt the 8800GTS 512MB better than the 8800Ultra?
No way.

GTS > GT > GTX > Ultra
Them arrows goin in the right direction ?
Flaming_Maniac
prince of insufficient light
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jsnipy wrote:

PBAsydney wrote:

Dragonclaw wrote:


Isnt the 8800GTS 512MB better than the 8800Ultra?
No way.

GTS > GT > GTX > Ultra
Them arrows goin in the right direction ?
Remember kids, the alligator always wants to eat the bigger number.
Mitch92uK
aka [DBS]Mitch92uK
+192|6713|United Kingdom

Flaming_Maniac wrote:

jsnipy wrote:

PBAsydney wrote:


No way.

GTS > GT > GTX > Ultra
Them arrows goin in the right direction ?
Remember kids, the alligator always wants to eat the bigger number.
Small end always points to the smallest number
Freezer7Pro
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From what benchmarks I've seen, the 8600GT/GTS seems to be just about the same as a 7600GS/GT. But with DX10 capabilities, wich will be very usable on such a slow card...
The idea of any hi-fi system is to reproduce the source material as faithfully as possible, and to deliberately add distortion to everything you hear (due to amplifier deficiencies) because it sounds 'nice' is simply not high fidelity. If that is what you want to hear then there is no problem with that, but by adding so much additional material (by way of harmonics and intermodulation) you have a tailored sound system, not a hi-fi. - Rod Elliot, ESP
nukchebi0
Пушкин, наше всё
+387|6802|New Haven, CT

PBAsydney wrote:

Dragonclaw wrote:

_NL_Lt.EngineerFox wrote:

Best DX9 card: 7950GX2 and X1950XTX
Best DX10 card: 8800Ultra
Isnt the 8800GTS 512MB better than the 8800Ultra?
No way.

GTS > GT > GTX > Ultra
For old GTS, this with the signs switched is correct.

However, when adding the new GTS it goes:

G80 GTS<GT<GTX<G92 GTS (given the lower cost, lower power consumption, and greater ease of overclock with near identical stock performances)<Ultra
aimless
Member
+166|6603|Texas

nukchebi0 wrote:

PBAsydney wrote:

Dragonclaw wrote:


Isnt the 8800GTS 512MB better than the 8800Ultra?
No way.

GTS > GT > GTX > Ultra
For old GTS, this with the signs switched is correct.

However, when adding the new GTS it goes:

G80 GTS<GT<GTX<G92 GTS (given the lower cost, lower power consumption, and greater ease of overclock with near identical stock performances)<Ultra
yeah its almost like

GTS (G80) < GT = GTX < GTS (G92) < Ultra

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