BF2S Forums Any REAL good evasive techniques from rockets in attack choppers?

there really isn't any way to avoid surface to air or air to air missiles in a chopper once you have deployed flares.

If you are high enough, turn upside down, drop flares. You fall with the flares. You have a slightly higher chance of not dying.

Trip the flares as soon as you get a lock tone, then give the gunner a line on it and flee. The flares force the AA to lock onto the flares themselves and not the chopper.
If it's an AA tank, you've gotta go fast before he has the guns on you long enough to pop you.

Tbqh, I couldn't care less if a commander is spotting like crazy, he could be the most amazing commander in the world but if he doesn't have VoIP I dislike them. I think it's 100% needed in BF2. Because I don't want to talk to someone who doesn't reply.

"Commander, can you spot the AA around me please?"
"Sure, let me try to find it"

That's how it should be, not you shouting at some idiot who doesn't understand the game because he wants to spot everything on the map -- there is no need to spot everything, and anyone who thinks it makes a commander great should be shot.

A commander should say if X flag is clear, and tell squad leaders if they have something near them. They shouldn't repeat spot the same sniper in the middle of no where when there are hot flags and AA about, nothing annoys me more.

Also; I suggest over time you really start to read the whole game, I'm constantly looking in the top left corner to see where everything/everyone is. I'll take a note of the name and the vehicle they are in, if I see one of our attack choppers get taken by mobile AA at say North Gas Station on Daqing, I'll take a note of the name that killed the chopper and then if I see a jet/Eryx take that name down, I'll make sure I head over to Refinery and kill it as 9 times out of 10 the person will return to use the same vehicle.

It takes quite a bit of time and a bit of brains to work it out, and at the end of the day the best way to avoid AA missles is to not get hit by them .

One more thing -- I find myself soloing quite a lot, if this is the case I'll usually go up to about 300~ or so and do random spots/spot the jets, then wait for someone else to spot vehicles, point down and own their face.

It's also nice to have a commander on VoIP to set up attack markers on random inf/snipers. If you get one willing to do it, it's an amazing game. You just wait for the order to be given on the exact location and fire your TV at it, works like a charm.

Also works if you're soloing and you see a wild inf on say Daq/Clean where it's hard to pick out inf, I just bring up squad tab and right click -> Attack exactly on the location.

Flare and dip.  If you get hit by two missiles you still have enough health to go back and heal.  Come back from a different direction and angle and kill the AA.

Skorpy-chan wrote:

The commander can't see what's mobile AA or not without zooming right in. He has better things to be doing, like directing the people capping flags and doing something constructive.
If you can't spot it, your gunner sucks.

...Like directing the people capping flags? Lol, what?

Tell me what % of commanders actually tell their troops what to do with an actual tactical reason for doing so? The way BF2 works is a group of 2 APCs and a vehicle go to a flag -- then cap it. The next step is they find the closest flag and cap that one, and go on and on and on.

No public game is ever going to have a full team of squads doing exactly as their commander tells them, at least in my 30k or so commander points it's never happened.

A good commander will put UAV on the flag closest to the biggest group of troops you have and spot around the attack chopper, any commander that gives specific orders to each squad is living a lie and is only going to piss off his squads with spamming them with stuff they don't want to do.

If a see a group of enemies going for a flag, I'll simply spot whatever it is and tell the people over VoIP "There are two inf and one tank at X flag" On the rare occasion I get a squad or two that actually wants to work as a team, I'll say "If you die, spawn at X flag as AT please"

A good commander doesn't spot everything on the map and give orders to every squad he has, a good commander lets the people who are playing play as they want to, and assist them in getting kills/points.

Also, one thing I really must must MUST stress. If you ARE a pilot of an attack chopper, stay back near flags you have and don't dip into other flags unless you know what you're doing, for instance if you see a tank and an APC and your gunner kills the tank, don't swoop into an enemy flag to kill the APC with your missles, pull back to a flag you have and let the gunner TV.

The main reason is because of troop help, you need ground troops going for the infantry so you don't have a hard time if they spawn as AT (It's really not hard to hit a chopper with an Eryx/Sraw) and also, at your base you're in charge of the AA and vehicles, at their base, you're not. You would really be amazed at how dramatically you will stay alive if you hover around flags you have, TVing and mooing troops that are coming into the flag rather than being a two man army and trying to attack the flag by yourself.

Nothing annoys me more than a chopper pilot who thinks he's rambo and runs into the enemy flags just to get raped by random AA which could be in any direction.

if you're flying head-on to the AA, chances are you're going to get hit.  the missles will miss more often if you are moving to the left or right after the flares.  the important part is being able to get out of there though if you do take some hits...  as far as all the crazy rolls and such, it doesn't help too terribly much.  as chullster noted, its far more important to use cover on the ground.  if you are playing tag with the other heli, make sure you stay above 300 feet so you can't get locked onto in the first place.

steelie34 wrote:

if you're flying head-on to the AA, chances are you're going to get hit.  the missles will miss more often if you are moving to the left or right after the flares.  the important part is being able to get out of there though if you do take some hits...  as far as all the crazy rolls and such, it doesn't help too terribly much.  as chullster noted, its far more important to use cover on the ground.  if you are playing tag with the other heli, make sure you stay above 300 feet so you can't get locked onto in the first place.

As a frequent user of mobile AA, I can vouch that everything he says is correct. My mobile AA guide (which is just about done) mentions these points.

In general, the most important factor is knowing where the mobile AA is.

It's not hard if the pilot's an idiot or right over your head. I have far more accuracy against them with .50s on transports.

Mounted AA shouldn't be a problem as they can easily be avoided or taken out before they do any damage.

Mobile AA shouldn't be much of a problem either, if you get locked and have no idea where it is drop flares and dive down behind some cover (Buildings, Trees, etc.)

Deploy your flares and dive, this will give you a extra few moments of not getting locked on..

If your low enough, try and get behind a hill or some trees..  Use the Terrain to your advantage..