Mitch
16 more years
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Back with another religion thread. This time, less personal opinion, more opinion of others who are smarter and who have done more research and science then me.

I start you off with #1, Penn & Teller, this is one of my favorite videos, because if you an intellegent listener you will learn well from this video:



The Bible Is Repulsive (a very good video pointing out how brutal and illegal following the bible is):



And if that hasn't converted you to an Atheist, try my new favorite website:

http://www.godisimaginary.com

They have 50 reasons why believing in god is a horrible mistake.

This should be more then enough proof that the bible cannot be taken seriously, you cannot pick and choose what you want to take literally from the bible, and with all the flaws and brutality of the bible pointed out, you should realize that basicaly every christian sins and every christian will be going to hell.

Last edited by Mitch (2008-01-15 22:13:07)

15 more years! 15 more years!
Ganko_06
Laughter with an S
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Hehe.  Made me think of "Loose Change" towards Christianity.  Thanks, I'll pass.

EDIT: Evangelical Atheistism

Last edited by Ganko_06 (2008-01-15 22:23:07)

Home
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You and your conversions Mitch. I am an atheist, but you're no better than any other door to door recruiter for their religion. What is with you and not being able to handle other people being different than you?
LividBovine
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Why are you trying to "convert" people?  Getting bored, or trying to convince yourself that there is no God?  Just seems like you are a bit over the top here.
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Izaik
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I'm pretty sure there's a PETA video out there with a reference to The Holocaust as well.

Fuck that.
mikkel
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Haha, Penn & Teller as a source of anything "intelligent"?
Mitch
16 more years
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mikkel wrote:

Haha, Penn & Teller as a source of anything "intelligent"?
very much so
15 more years! 15 more years!
Catbox
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Penn is the cure for isomnia... just listen to his radio show for 10 minutes... lol...

So if you are religious you aren't an intelligent listener?  nice
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Cybargs
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Mitch, GTFO. Let others believe what they want.
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Mr.Dooomed
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cyborg_ninja-117 wrote:

Mitch, GTFO. Let others believe what they want.
I agree. Although a lot of us have our gripes with religion we have to just let those who follow them be who they are. A lot of people in those religions also see many flaws themselves, but its more about being spiritual I think. When a person prays to their God, it gives them emotional strength that can guide them through hard times or what have you.

Not any religion is perfect because religion was a creation by man anyway. If Jesus himself laid out a religion and had guidelines I kind of wonder if that would be flawed also. But how do you define a flaw? Say,  Jesus creates a perfect religion, but men still end up killing each other and they say its for their religion. Who's to blame? No matter what, its always human to blame.

So Mitch, don't hate on religions.
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NateW
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I always find it amazing when an atheist, who probably knows first hand how annoying it is having others push their beliefs on you, try and convert others to atheism.

Let people believe what they want.
BVC
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Mitch, as an atheist I just want to say stop being an evangelist, leave them to work it out for themselves!
mikkel
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Mitch wrote:

mikkel wrote:

Haha, Penn & Teller as a source of anything "intelligent"?
very much so
Anyone possessing even a modicum of critical thought knows that their show is about as fair and balanced as FOX News.
CameronPoe
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If someone wants to believe in a God made out of cheese or Angels with samurai swords then let them. It's their own personal thing upon which you should not intrude, unless you advocate having your private beliefs intruded upon by others. I'm an atheist.

Last edited by CameronPoe (2008-01-16 00:55:19)

rh27
Not really a Brit
+51|7031|England
This thread is unnecessary.

You'll never convert anyone religious because they rely on blind faith, they know there's no evidence so they just cover their ears and ignore all proof against their belief.

I'm an Atheist and I hate being preached to, so let them figure it out for themselves.

If they don't want to listen to reason, it's their choice - you shouldn't intrude on that.
SenorToenails
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Why is it that some of you think that believing in religion automatically makes you stupid?
some_random_panda
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SenorToenails wrote:

Why is it that some of you think that believing in religion automatically makes you stupid?
Because they can't be wrong.  Hell, no.
SenorToenails
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some_random_panda wrote:

SenorToenails wrote:

Why is it that some of you think that believing in religion automatically makes you stupid?
Because they can't be wrong.  Hell, no.
What?  Wouldn't it then be ignorance that makes people stupid?  Religion does not make people ignorant, or intolerant.  This thread shows that.
SharkyMcshark
I'll take two
+132|7220|Perth, Western Australia
Let me preface this by saying that for all intents and purposes Im an Atheist, BUT...

Jesus that made me sick. It really is very offensive to go around calling people's religious text's repulsive (unless the person is muslim, in which case its perfectly fine! /sarcasm), and to call their religious icons idiots. And don't get me wrong, Im not one of those types that doesn't get parody. I love parody, in fact it's one of my favourite forms of humour.

Besides, I thought the whole point of atheism was that we were fed up with people preaching down our throats?

And I'm not even going into refuting the arguments listed in the video (to sum it all up AFAIK the Church at around the time of Vatican II stated that the Old Testament was no longer relevant compared to the New Testament/should not be taken at explicit face value... I think).

Point is invalid arguments aside that video really is quite the stupid.

Last edited by SharkyMcshark (2008-01-16 03:42:11)

oug
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mikkel wrote:

Haha, Penn & Teller as a source of anything "intelligent"?
Scary that people look to them for answers...
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twiistaaa
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NateWiese wrote:

Let people believe what they want.
until they base thier political ideologies on the beliefs. or vote for someone with the same religious based policies..

anyway, i don't see how this thread is evangelical-esq. everything this thread is about is listed in the heading. if you dont want to view it dont enter. if you want to engage in religious debate go right ahead..

everyone needs to stop being pussys and throw religion under the microscope. if you have such faith then your religion should not fail the test. right?
G3|Genius
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Home wrote:

You and your conversions Mitch. I am an atheist, but you're no better than any other door to door recruiter for their religion. What is with you and not being able to handle other people being different than you?
This is well said.

Is Atheism a religion or a lack of religion?

Im_doomed wrote:

Not any religion is perfect because religion was a creation by man anyway. If Jesus himself laid out a religion and had guidelines I kind of wonder if that would be flawed also. But how do you define a flaw? Say,  Jesus creates a perfect religion, but men still end up killing each other and they say its for their religion. Who's to blame? No matter what, its always human to blame.
You hit the nail on the head.  The weakness in Christianity is human weakness, not divine weakness.  But you have to wonder, what's the point of religion of humans have no weakness?  It seems like it's just something we have to accept about it, unfortunately....All we can do is try to be the best people we can be.

Last edited by G3|Genius (2008-01-16 04:35:26)

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Hell, I thought this was going to be a fun thread where you take a test and the results are what religion (minus a deity or other figure) fits your beliefs and perceptions.
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