BF2S Forums Obama; decriminalize pot

well, decriminalizing doesnt meant legalization, it just means gettting caught with pot could just be a misdemeanor as opposed to jail time

in Maine it is decriminalized, meaning you cant go to jail if they find some roaches in your ashtray

however, plastic baggies and a portable scale will get you booked immediately

I wouldn't mind seeing it legal for use in your own home, assuming you grow it yourself, but I'd punish the sure enough shit out of anyone who sold it, bought it, or had it outside their home. You grow it in your backyard or greenhouse and use it in your living room, fine. You have the shit in your car you're doing time.

With the mess in the ME, absurd national budget, SS problems, and illegal immigrations problems, what could be more important than whether you get a fine or jail time for pot?

Flaming_Maniac wrote:

With the mess in the ME, absurd national budget, SS problems, and illegal immigrations problems, what could be more important than whether you get a fine or jail time for pot?

To be fair though, just because the country has bigger problems doesn't mean you can ignore the smaller ones. And in any case, it was a debate question, not him stating he thought this to be an important issue.

HudsonFalcon wrote:

Obama seems shaky at best towards his stance on the pot issue.  Decriminalization for certain small quantities is good yes, it will free up some resources in the criminal justice system.  However, decriminalization will by no means lead to legalization in this country.  We already have two legal drugs in this country alcohol, and tobacco so pot will never be added to this list even though it may be less dangerous.  For you avid "smokers" out there would you really want your bud taxed to hell and weak anyway?

I grows the AAA, so it wouldnt bother me.  The taxes made off it would hopefully help ease taxes/ user fees in other areas though.

Hey maybe with the extra tax dollars you guys down south could have a medicare program that everyone could use.  Think of the money the non-smokers might save by having all that extra cash for the gov't to work with. 
Oh wait, you probably wont see much of it as an average citizen, but at least the officials could make more off it.

Also, the cost that an average american pays for weed is way overpriced based mostly on the risk that the dealer takes.  To grow high quality pot using 2 x 1000 WATT bulbs and other equip, costs about $2000 to start up + any reno's needed.  And to pay the electricity on the 2 lights and fans etc.. costs about $1-2/ day.  And thats indoors.  With this setup you could average between 1.5 - 4.5 lbs every 3 months depending on alot of factors.

So the cost would actually be alot less than it currently is.  That would leave alot of room for the gov't to get there cut while the retail price would not vary much.  IMO it would help the users, the non-users and the gov't.  Its a win-win-win situation.  The only losers are the people making money off of it illegally right now.  But, the gangs actually do have influence on policy and this is not in their best interest.

PluggedValve wrote:

Also, the cost that an average american pays for weed is way overpriced based mostly on the risk that the dealer takes.  To grow high quality pot using 2 x 1000 WATT bulbs and other equip, costs about $2000 to start up + any reno's needed.  And to pay the electricity on the 2 lights and fans etc.. costs about $1-2/ day.  And thats indoors.  With this setup you could average between 1.5 - 4.5 lbs every 3 months depending on alot of factors.

So the cost would actually be alot less than it currently is.  That would leave alot of room for the gov't to get there cut while the retail price would not vary much.  IMO it would help the users, the non-users and the gov't.  Its a win-win-win situation.  The only losers are the people making money off of it illegally right now.  But, the gangs actually do have influence on policy and this is not in their best interest.

Dude ...sounds like you been there...done that. Whats rockwool goin for these days??   

Dersmikner wrote:

I wouldn't mind seeing it legal for use in your own home, assuming you grow it yourself, but I'd punish the sure enough shit out of anyone who sold it, bought it, or had it outside their home. You grow it in your backyard or greenhouse and use it in your living room, fine. You have the shit in your car you're doing time.

i think it should be sold by corporations. like tobacco. if you grow it police still have to spend time making sure no one is mass producing and selling. if it was given to tobacco companies to produce a few things would be done.

1. it could be produced to a standard and variety (low thc, low or no chemicals involved in production etc)
2. it would force dealers to either not deal (weed) or go into harder drugs which are more difficult to make and harder to sell. meaning it would thin the number of dealers.

I think this calls for a toke.

DoctaStrangelove wrote:

Deadmonkiefart wrote:

Great.  We should be making tobacco illegal, and instead we're legalizing marijuana.  That's a step in the right direction.

I think jailing people who just smoke pot is a bad idea, they should go into a rehab program, most of them are just people whose lives are somewhat fucked up,

All I can hear is "I suck dick for crack. have you ever sucked dick for marijuana?"


I SEEN em!