Exit polling is used to call races far before the ballots are tallied ... Obama had an uphill battle to beat her in California. Plus, there's something like 2 million absentee ballots that will likely heavily favor Clinton.Liberal-Sl@yer wrote:
Not really thats only win 19% reporting. Thtas the thing iI fuckign hate about the news as soon as more than 10% report they throw a state to someone. Obama is actually very close to Clinton so its still up for grabs.mtb0minime wrote:
Hillary won CA
/wrists
I'm gonna cry now.
Still even with the projection of clinton winning those delegates the dem race is too close.OrangeHound wrote:
Exit polling is used to call races far before the ballots are tallied ... Obama had an uphill battle to beat her in California. Plus, there's something like 2 million absentee ballots that will likely heavily favor Clinton.Liberal-Sl@yer wrote:
Not really thats only win 19% reporting. Thtas the thing iI fuckign hate about the news as soon as more than 10% report they throw a state to someone. Obama is actually very close to Clinton so its still up for grabs.mtb0minime wrote:
Hillary won CA
/wrists
I'm gonna cry now.
Yes, the Dem race is close, but Clinton still has more political "machinery" than Obama ... and the Super delegates are the real wild card. I have a feeling the Dems may not have a winner going into their convention since the Dem's don't seem to be breaking.Liberal-Sl@yer wrote:
Still even with the projection of clinton winning those delegates the dem race is too close.OrangeHound wrote:
Exit polling is used to call races far before the ballots are tallied ... Obama had an uphill battle to beat her in California. Plus, there's something like 2 million absentee ballots that will likely heavily favor Clinton.Liberal-Sl@yer wrote:
Not really thats only win 19% reporting. Thtas the thing iI fuckign hate about the news as soon as more than 10% report they throw a state to someone. Obama is actually very close to Clinton so its still up for grabs.
Though the Dem race is close, I'm much more interested in the dynamics of the Republican party right now. Effectively, none of the candidates appears to be appealing to a broad constituency: McCain = Moderates, Huckabee = Evangelical Conservatives, Romney = Morman and non-Evangelical Conservatives
The race comes to Virginia next week. We might actually get to make a difference in this election cycle.
I will seriously consider suicide if hillary is our president.
This might be an unspoken fact, but in California, Hillary attracted stupid people.
Note the declining trend of Hillary votes as intelligence increases and the opposite for Obama.
Note the declining trend of Hillary votes as intelligence increases and the opposite for Obama.
Note, however, that the smarter people voted in higher percentages for Edwards ... who has dropped out of the race.Havok wrote:
This might be an unspoken fact, but in California, Hillary attracted stupid people.
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Note the declining trend of Hillary votes as intelligence increases and the opposite for Obama.
McCain has effectively won the Republican nomination.
He would beat Hillary easily.
He would beat Hillary easily.
CaliforniansOrangeHound wrote:
Note, however, that the smarter people voted in higher percentages for Edwards ... who has dropped out of the race.Havok wrote:
This might be an unspoken fact, but in California, Hillary attracted stupid people.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v703/ … iIntel.jpg
Note the declining trend of Hillary votes as intelligence increases and the opposite for Obama.
Well, it is looking more and more like she is the nominee. Obama can't seem to win the Blue states, and thats the Democratic heartland. He's doing well in Republican Territory (Red States), but Hillary is winning in the Dem strongholds.ATG wrote:
I will seriously consider suicide if hillary is our president.
As a result, this continues to suggest that the Dem Party is endorsing Hillary.
So effectively this held true.
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If the Democrats lose the election, do you think Obama will try again in 2012?
Not necessarily. McCain has a big problem on his hands right now. The conservative base of the Republican Party is not breaking for him ... he is attracting the votes of minority liberal-Republicans and non-party Independents. Several upcoming states do not allow Independents to vote in their Republican primaries.nukchebi0 wrote:
McCain has effectively won the Republican nomination.
Also, the big-bosses of the Republican party might start to form a Conservative Coalition to combine the delegates of Huckabee and Romney to defeat McCain.
(This is why the Republican party is the more interesting contest right now).
He's young, so I wouldn't doubt it.nukchebi0 wrote:
If the Democrats lose the election, do you think Obama will try again in 2012?
One thing I don't get is that if Kmarion is right and that the nomination comes down to the super delegates, why would they nominate Hillary? They know all too well that she's a very polarizing candidate and that Obama would have a better chance of winning in a general election. So why Hillary?
Super Delegates are part of the core party machinery ... Hillary is well-connected with the party machinery, and Obama is not.Havok wrote:
He's young, so I wouldn't doubt it.nukchebi0 wrote:
If the Democrats lose the election, do you think Obama will try again in 2012?
One thing I don't get is that if Kmarion is right and that the nomination comes down to the super delegates, why would they nominate Hillary? They know all too well that she's a very polarizing candidate and that Obama would have a better chance of winning in a general election. So why Hillary?
By the way, don't think that Obama is more electable than Hillary ... the Republicans will do some MAJOR mean things to him should he get the nomination, including - I would guess - tie him to terrorism. They've already demonized Hillary, so it is as bad as it will get for her.
pfft.OrangeHound wrote:
Super Delegates are part of the core party machinery ... Hillary is well-connected with the party machinery, and Obama is not.Havok wrote:
He's young, so I wouldn't doubt it.nukchebi0 wrote:
If the Democrats lose the election, do you think Obama will try again in 2012?
One thing I don't get is that if Kmarion is right and that the nomination comes down to the super delegates, why would they nominate Hillary? They know all too well that she's a very polarizing candidate and that Obama would have a better chance of winning in a general election. So why Hillary?
By the way, don't think that Obama is more electable than Hillary ... the Republicans will do some MAJOR mean things to him should he get the nomination, including - I would guess - tie him to terrorism. They've already demonized Hillary, so it is as bad as it will get for her.
If he's a terrorist, we would know it by now, and it's been tried already.
The real gag is how polarized the nation is, while how similar the candidates are.
After what happened in West Virginia today, I don't foresee that happening.OrangeHound wrote:
Not necessarily. McCain has a big problem on his hands right now. The conservative base of the Republican Party is not breaking for him ... he is attracting the votes of minority liberal-Republicans and non-party Independents. Several upcoming states do not allow Independents to vote in their Republican primaries.nukchebi0 wrote:
McCain has effectively won the Republican nomination.
Also, the big-bosses of the Republican party might start to form a Conservative Coalition to combine the delegates of Huckabee and Romney to defeat McCain.
(This is why the Republican party is the more interesting contest right now).
McCain/Huckabee ? anyone but Hillary... she isn't even human... lol...
Love is the answer
Me too.ATG wrote:
I will seriously consider suicide if hillary is our president.
Or worse: moving to Canada
I didn't say he WAS a terrorist. I said they would try to TIE HIM to terrorism. It is already happening on a low level within the democratic ranks from the Hillary camp. There was a mass email that went out this past week. Politics is a dirty business, and there's a lot of low-life groups out there that will spread slander.ATG wrote:
pfft.OrangeHound wrote:
Super Delegates are part of the core party machinery ... Hillary is well-connected with the party machinery, and Obama is not.Havok wrote:
He's young, so I wouldn't doubt it.
One thing I don't get is that if Kmarion is right and that the nomination comes down to the super delegates, why would they nominate Hillary? They know all too well that she's a very polarizing candidate and that Obama would have a better chance of winning in a general election. So why Hillary?
By the way, don't think that Obama is more electable than Hillary ... the Republicans will do some MAJOR mean things to him should he get the nomination, including - I would guess - tie him to terrorism. They've already demonized Hillary, so it is as bad as it will get for her.
If he's a terrorist, we would know it by now, and it's been tried already.
The real gag is how polarized the nation is, while how similar the candidates are.
I assume you are talking about McCain delegates joining with Huckabee.nukchebi0 wrote:
After what happened in West Virginia today, I don't foresee that happening.OrangeHound wrote:
Not necessarily. McCain has a big problem on his hands right now. The conservative base of the Republican Party is not breaking for him ... he is attracting the votes of minority liberal-Republicans and non-party Independents. Several upcoming states do not allow Independents to vote in their Republican primaries.nukchebi0 wrote:
McCain has effectively won the Republican nomination.
Also, the big-bosses of the Republican party might start to form a Conservative Coalition to combine the delegates of Huckabee and Romney to defeat McCain.
(This is why the Republican party is the more interesting contest right now).
Well, it depends. I agree that evangelical conservatives (Huckabee supporters) will not support Romney, but the opposite might be true.
Yes. I am more talking about the actual cooperation that would be necessary between the two candidates to establish an alliance against McCain. There woul dbe way too many arguments, especially after the deal in West Virginia, for a viable coalition to form Both Huckabee and Romney have stated they will continue, and I don't one of them suddenly giving up through some deal like you suggested.
I would move to Canada or somewhere in Ocieana in a heartbeat if hiliary won.mtb0minime wrote:
Me too.ATG wrote:
I will seriously consider suicide if hillary is our president.
Or worse: moving to Canada
ATG, if you do commit suicide, go out with a bang. Run into the Senate or something. screaming "Hillary did this to me!" and then shoot yourself in the face.
wish grantedATG wrote:
If it's McCain and Clinton we deserve what we get and fuck everybody I guess.
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