3870 or 8800GT

2008-02-19 04:32:32

#1

Shadow893: lel; +75|6971|England

So I was thinking of upgrading my 8600GT for either a 3870 or an 8800GT. My budget is quite tight so I will only be able to get the cheapest of the 8800's. Now I know that half of you will say spend more on the 8800Gt but is it worth it? Especially since all I really play are Source games (which ATI give better performance than nVidia) and FSX.

So what do you guys think?

(Specs are in sig)

2008-02-19 04:34:34

#2

0akleaves: Member; +183|6892|Newcastle UK

i think since my 7600 fucked agian n am using a 6200 u should donate your 8600 lol, i would go for the 8800gt meant to be as good as a 8800gtx in some cases.

You have to learn the rules of the game and then you have to play better than anyone else.

2008-02-19 04:38:37

#3

Shadow893: lel; +75|6971|England

0akleaves wrote:
i think since my 7600 fucked agian n am using a 6200 u should donate your 8600 lol, i would go for the 8800gt meant to be as good as a 8800gtx in some cases.

but all i'm using it for is to play source games which ait does better than nvidia.

2008-02-19 04:39:00

#4

Freezer7Pro: I don't come here a lot anymore.; +1,447|6476|Winland

8800GT.

And give your 8600 to Oakleaves

The idea of any hi-fi system is to reproduce the source material as faithfully as possible, and to deliberately add distortion to everything you hear (due to amplifier deficiencies) because it sounds 'nice' is simply not high fidelity. If that is what you want to hear then there is no problem with that, but by adding so much additional material (by way of harmonics and intermodulation) you have a tailored sound system, not a hi-fi. - Rod Elliot, ESP

2008-02-19 04:40:39

#5

RDMC: Enemy Wheelbarrow Spotted..!!; +736|6844|Area 51

I actually chose for a HD3870, as with updated drivers the performance decrease doesnt go over 10%. Usually between 5 - 10% drop with the HD3870 compared to an 8800GT. But the entire rig with the HD3870 saved me 50 euros over a rig with an 8800GT. Plus, Crossfire tends to do better than SLi.

Here you can find test result on HD3870 (WITH UPDATED DRIVERS) vs an 8800GT. You be the judge

[url=http://en.expreview.com/?p=53&page=4/]Here you can find the results on an 8800GT SLI vs HD3870 CF. If you interested in SLI/CF that
is.[/url]

This is with the old ATI drivers though, results with newer ATI drivers would probably result in better results for ATI.

If you are going for a single card though, choose for the 8800GT

Ya, I forgot that too. If your not into upgrading any time soon after this that consider that the HD3870 has Dx 10.1 and the 8800GT doesn't have that.

Last edited by RDMC (2008-02-19 05:02:59)

2008-02-19 04:53:18

#6

']['error: Banned; +630|6922|The Netherlands

3870 is more futureproof with DX10.1
8800GT has better performance.

2008-02-19 05:37:33

#7

Freezer7Pro: I don't come here a lot anymore.; +1,447|6476|Winland

']['error wrote:
3870 is more futureproof with DX10.1 at 11FPS
8800GT has better performance.

ixed4u.

The idea of any hi-fi system is to reproduce the source material as faithfully as possible, and to deliberately add distortion to everything you hear (due to amplifier deficiencies) because it sounds 'nice' is simply not high fidelity. If that is what you want to hear then there is no problem with that, but by adding so much additional material (by way of harmonics and intermodulation) you have a tailored sound system, not a hi-fi. - Rod Elliot, ESP

2008-02-19 05:38:19

#8

Dragonclaw: Member; +186|6584|Florida

']['error wrote:
3870 is more futureproof with DX10.1
8800GT has better performance.

Why would you think for one second that DX10.1 would run on a 3870? DX10 barely runs on it.

2008-02-19 05:38:27

#9

Shadow893: lel; +75|6971|England

i think i'll go for the 3870 - cheaper and works better with source games. ty for help everyone

2008-02-19 05:40:50

#10

RDMC: Enemy Wheelbarrow Spotted..!!; +736|6844|Area 51

Dragonclaw wrote:
']['error wrote:
3870 is more futureproof with DX10.1
8800GT has better performance.
Why would you think for one second that DX10.1 would run on a 3870? DX10 barely runs on it.

DX10.1 is in fact a more stable and improved version of DX10. So DX10.1 would even run better then DX10.

Last edited by RDMC (2008-02-19 05:41:31)

2008-02-19 05:44:11

#11

Shadow893: lel; +75|6971|England

BTW: DX10.1 or even DX10 doesn't really bother me because I have XP.

2008-02-19 07:10:24

#12

aimless: Member; +166|6403|Texas

Shadow893 wrote:
i think i'll go for the 3870 - cheaper and works better with source games. ty for help everyone

I don't quite understand how one card could be better for source games. My 8800gt has never crashed once.

2008-02-19 07:14:48

#13

GC_PaNzerFIN: Work and study @ Technical Uni; +528|6693|Finland

source is being optimized for geforce cards... it is part of the nvidia's 'the way it is ment to be played'-thing. I bet 8800gt runs source better than ATi now... At least in the newer EP2 and TF2.
Also the AA+AF performance of the 8800GT is better than ATi's. Don't get me wrong, the HD 3870 is still great card. just not as fast as the GT.

Last edited by GC_PaNzerFIN (2008-02-19 07:18:58)

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2008-02-19 08:07:29

#14

Shadow893: lel; +75|6971|England

aimless wrote:
Shadow893 wrote:
i think i'll go for the 3870 - cheaper and works better with source games. ty for help everyone
I don't quite understand how one card could be better for source games. My 8800gt has never crashed once.

its not that the geforce cards can't run it, its just that in benchmarks whilst playing source games, it runs better by about 20fps consistently

2008-02-19 08:13:01

#15

']['error: Banned; +630|6922|The Netherlands

well as you are on xp, go for the 8800GT.

2008-02-19 08:24:00

#16

GC_PaNzerFIN: Work and study @ Technical Uni; +528|6693|Finland

Shadow893 wrote:
aimless wrote:
Shadow893 wrote:
i think i'll go for the 3870 - cheaper and works better with source games. ty for help everyone
I don't quite understand how one card could be better for source games. My 8800gt has never crashed once.
its not that the geforce cards can't run it, its just that in benchmarks whilst playing source games, it runs better by about 20fps consistently

8800GT is faster in Source.

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2008-02-19 08:55:13

#17

02fxnmaurer: Member; +75|6761|Birmingham UK

8800gt clearly ...u wont be dissapointed...plus u can overclock it loads

2008-02-19 13:04:25

#18

.Sup: be nice; +2,646|6732|The Twilight Zone

02fxnmaurer wrote:
8800gt clearly ...u wont be dissapointed...plus u can overclock it loads

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2008-02-19 14:25:34

#19

Fat_Swinub: jaff; +125|6714

8800GT. The 8800GT offers superior performance for a little extra cash. A lot of games are shifting over to Nvidia these days as well which means better optimisation.

']['error wrote:
3870 is more futureproof with DX10.1
8800GT has better performance.

Companies on the whole haven't made the jump to DX10 yet, what makes you think anyone is going to use an incremental API?

Dragonclaw wrote:
Why would you think for one second that DX10.1 would run on a 3870? DX10 barely runs on it.

Because it supports the API, that's why. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hd3870#Radeon_HD_3800

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