BF2S Forums Israel Wants Peace

ATG wrote:

PureFodder wrote:

M.O.A.B wrote:

Here's the major difference, the Hamas launchers often set up and fire and disappear before any cameras arrive. Whenever the Israelis attack, its often media covered and it will be documented and explained by the Israelis themselves. So there's not exactly going to be cold hard footage of the rockets being launched. Its impossible to know where they're going to be in order to film them or take a photo jsut for proof. My neighbours car is on the drive right now, that doesn't mean it wasn't there. They wouldn't just open fire on civilians, they would have had a reason to fire on that beach.

You assume that they wouldn't just open fire on ciillians, even though they are quite clearly willing to inflict all maner of sufferng on them that prompted 100 UN resolutions. If they were firing at a rocket launcher then they must have had reason to believe there is a rocket launcher there in the first place, or why are they firing at it? Clearly if the Israelis believe that they are right, they must have the evidence that prompted them to fire in the first place. What is that evidence? Clearly from the responses so far, simply declaring that there was a rocket launcher is all the proof most people need. Hence they have the option to attack civillians, claim they were millitants or standing next to a rocket launcher and most people would go along with it. That isn't proof that there was no rocket launcher, but Israel simply declaring that there was one isn't proof that there was one either.

Bah.

The Israel haters will never accept such evidence. If it was presented the sentiment would still be " if the evil jews weren't there they wouldn't be getting rocketed. " or some similar nonsense.

Why don't you prove it was unjustified?
The Palestinians have have many chances at peace, yet always embrace war.


Too fucking bad for them.

usmarine wrote:

I like Berns and my idea better.  Israel should just steam roll the place.

usmarine wrote:

I like Berns and my idea better.  Israel should just steam roll the place.

AutralianChainsaw wrote:

usmarine wrote:

I like Berns and my idea better.  Israel should just steam roll the place.

Genocide?  Mass deportation?   What do you mean?

Bernadictus wrote:

Why doesn't the IDF role through Gaza as they did with the Lebs? Problem solved.

Kmarion wrote:

CameronPoe wrote:

usmarine wrote:

I like Berns and my idea better.  Israel should just steam roll the place.

Kind of like what Hitler did to the Jews?

I don't recall Jews lobbing Qassam missiles in the direction of Hitler.

CameronPoe wrote:

Kmarion wrote:

CameronPoe wrote:

Kind of like what Hitler did to the Jews?

I don't recall Jews lobbing Qassam missiles in the direction of Hitler.

'Steam rolling' Arabs into non-existence is exactly the same as what Hitler did to the Jews, whatever way you play it - logically speaking. What the Jews or Arabs did is irrelevant.

CameronPoe wrote:

Kmarion wrote:

The world is not simple enough to ignore such relevant facts like consequences. If you are going to attempt to compare you need to examine the entire circumstance. You don't need to pick a side to see this.

So you're condoning genocide and ethnic cleansing in certain circumstances?

CameronPoe wrote:

Kmarion wrote:

The world is not simple enough to ignore such relevant facts like consequences. If you are going to attempt to compare you need to examine the entire circumstance. You don't need to pick a side to see this.

So you're condoning genocide and ethnic cleansing in certain circumstances?

CameronPoe wrote:

DBBrinson1 wrote:

CameronPoe wrote:

So you're condoning genocide and ethnic cleansing in certain circumstances?

Cam, would you have a problem if Israel was wiped from the map?

I would have a problem if the inhabitants of the state of Israel were wiped out yes. Most of them aren't to blame for their Zionist forefathers giving birth to them in such an inhospitable and silly place. And as ordinary human beings just like you and I, Zionist or not, each of them has the right to live their lives to a natural death.

Edit: Just to clarify - I believe in the two-state solution. Abhorrent and unfair though the birth of Israel was, there is now a state on the ground that is home to several million people who call themselves Israeli. The most important thing now is to stop Zionists from stealing any more property that was originally Palestinian (i.e., that is deemed Palestinian under international law).

AutralianChainsaw wrote:

usmarine wrote:

AutralianChainsaw wrote:

Genocide?  Mass deportation?   What do you mean?

Help the ones who want to leave move to Iran.  Then level the joint.

um ok.. so basically its pretty much the same solution i proposed..except i suggested to relocate the israelis in the US of A and leave the land to the Palestinians.

Bertster7 wrote:

M.O.A.B wrote:

AutralianChainsaw wrote:

um ok.. so basically its pretty much the same solution i proposed..except i suggested to relocate the israelis in the US of A and leave the land to the Palestinians.

Think about it though, if you did that, the somewhat prosperous land of an MEDC country like Israel would go immediately downhill. Then ask yourself who will the terrorist groups attacking Israel go for after that.

What? Hamas?

They probably wouldn't be going after anyone. They'd be very busy trying to get the nation they've been after for almost a century sorted out.

Do you just see them all as one generic group of Middle Eastern terrorists? They do all have different agendas you know....