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2006-02-20 16:43:35
Spearhead
Gulf coast redneck hippy
+731|7131|Tampa Bay Florida
I think the main problem with the kits in BF2 is that the weapons aren't evenly distributed throughout the classes.  For example, why are the L85A1 and G36e the unlocks for the medic class?  I personally like the L85A1 very much and many say (I don't use it that much) that the G36e is the best assault rifle in the game.  Heck, it says so right on the weapons description.  "The G36E is the standard assault rifle variant of the G36 family."  According to that statement, shouldn't the G36e be unlockable for the Assault class?

Assault rifles are supposed to be the standard weapon in combat, correct?  Why then are the carbines (M4, G36c) so accurate?  No offense, (while I still use it often) but the G3 is probably the worse weapon in the game.  Why did they introduce it as an unlock, when they could've had the G36e for the Assault?

If EA had distributed the weapons evenly and made the accuracy realistic (meaning carbines should not be mini-sniper rifles) I think the Assault class would be used much more often, and for a good reason.  The Assault rifles should be the second most accurate guns in the game, second to the Snipers.  The accuracy should look like this--  Snipers<Assault rifles<Support<Carbines<SMG's<Pistols<Shotguns

So, that is mainly why the Assault class is being used less and less often.  If they made the Assault rifle the best weapons in the game, like they SHOULD be, and make the best Assault rifles only unlockable for the Assault class, then I think that the game would be much more realistic and distributed.
2006-02-20 17:03:09
Nitaro02
Member
+0|7104
I've never tried the A3G3, but I've picked up an F2000 and I must say that is my favorite gun.  I also seem to get the most kills with it (maybe just luck, I don't know).  I consider it, in my opinion, the best weapon in the game.  I don't like the G36E because it isn't fully auto, only burst/single.

Therefore, in my opinion, the F2000, the assault class 2nd unlock, is the best weapon in the game and I believe that you shouldn't count that out.  I don't even play as assault often, but once I get the next rank and unlock it I think I'll be making the switch.
2006-02-20 17:22:12
Spearhead
Gulf coast redneck hippy
+731|7131|Tampa Bay Florida
meh, I have the F2000 unlocked, and I use it every once in a while.  But, the F2000 is the least accurate assault rifle in the game (based on my experience, not by stats).  It's decent for Karkand, but for other maps like Mashtuur I like to have more accuracy.  I'm just saying that, from experience, the G36e is easily the most popular Assault rifle, because it is EXTREMELY accurate, has nice power, and the burst is excellent for close quarters.

IMO, the F2000 brings one thing -- Auto fire.  While it is a nice substitute for the M16's burst, the Ak-101 and 47 already have full auto and are more accurate.

My point is, the F2000 and G3 are solid weapons.  But they are being overpowered by a MEDIC's assault rifle.. I just think there's something wrong with that

Last edited by Spearhead (2006-02-20 17:27:32)

2006-02-20 17:44:42
JP3
Member
+8|7111|Grammar Land
It's not really about evenly distributing the weapons across the different kits; it's about the right tool for the right job.  I don't see the carbines as mini sniper rifles per se. 

Think about it like this, the assault weapons favour firepower, volume ( not rounds per minute, but the amount of feet on the ground ), and longer distances between you and the enemy.  Whereas the spec ops is more about shot placement and close quarters fighting.

Spearhead wrote:

The accuracy should look like this--  Snipers<Assault rifles<Support<Carbines<SMG's<Pistols<Shotguns

So, that is mainly why the Assault class is being used less and less often.  If they made the Assault rifle the best weapons in the game, like they SHOULD be, and make the best Assault rifles only unlockable for the Assault class, then I think that the game would be much more realistic and distributed.
I think if those changes were to be made it would do the exact opposite; unrealistic.
2006-02-20 17:51:45
AGoetzy
Member
+0|7082
You think the F2000 is the most inaccurate rifle in the game? It IS one of the most accurate full-auto assualt rifles stat wise, and seems to be that way to me, so I have absolutely no idea what you're on but I would assume crack or something like that.
2006-02-20 18:55:26
KyanWan
Member
+0|7212
I dunno - I've got to agree with that "f2000" sux.  The only time I'd use it is if I was on USA and stuck with the option of 20 rounds, or 30 rounds full auto with grenades. 

AK101 is, imho, the best assault rifle.  The medic's G36E is great and all - but in the wrong hands it's worthless ( um, 3 round burst.  You better have good aim ) - but I gotta admit - it's the only gun you'll see me with when I'm medic. 

+ MEC medic is awesome - I love that class - AK101 from the start.  What beats that?

But, with the noobtube & dolphin dive finally killed -

You don't understand how much I'm loving the G3 these days   2-3 kills a clip is what I get ... and I run out of ammo all the time   My ratio's quickly worming its way up from less-than-1 to 2.0.   I should just start up a new account and get it up to 4.0 - what it really should be.  lol.
2006-02-20 19:02:20
Spearhead
Gulf coast redneck hippy
+731|7131|Tampa Bay Florida
Anyone can tell that Carbines are VERY accurate and in many cases more accurate than Assault rifles.  I can snipe someone from 150 m using a G36c, where as I might be able to score 1 hit with an M16 and score 0 with an F2000.

Also, if you had spent anytime comparing the Assault kit's weapons you should also be able to see that the F2000 is the least accurate, compared to the OTHER assault weapons (M16, Ak-101/47). 

The entire reason I posted this is because hardly ANYONE uses Assault, because #1. It is constantly being overpowered by Medics with superior assault rifles and #2. The assault rifles are not as powerful as they should be.

I'm sorry if you don't understand what I'm saying, but having more medics than Assault (to me anyway) is just a TAD bit idiotic.

Last edited by Spearhead (2006-02-20 19:04:02)

2006-02-20 20:53:43
{PAMD64}canuk
Member
+0|7168
What are you talking about? The G3 is the best Assult gun. THe only draw back is the small clip.
2006-02-21 17:00:35
Spearhead
Gulf coast redneck hippy
+731|7131|Tampa Bay Florida
You're all missing the point, nvm.
2006-02-22 00:13:47
MaximumMayhem
Member
+27|7091|Mashtuur Boulevard
Think about it like this, the assault weapons favour firepower, volume ( not rounds per minute, but the amount of feet on the ground ), and longer distances between you and the enemy.  Whereas the spec ops is more about shot placement and close quarters fighting.

I have to disagree with JP3...  I have found it as quite the opposite.  Thanks to the Assault kit's armour benefit, they can easily withstand carbine fire at close range.  The accuracy of the G3, I find is very poor at longer range.  If I had an experienced G36C opponent picking me off from distance, they would win over my G3 three out of four times.  Im yet to find out how truly amazing the G3 is in range as I'm yet to work out the damn iron sight on it.  I've picked off people from distance with it occasionally.. but it's more guesswork than the G36C.

If anything, Assault kit is made for frontline combat. The rough, aggressive variety. It shreds through unarmoured classes and makes a solid impact on armoured.  The Spec Ops and Medic are more useful at range or for taking out unwary / surprised opponents toe to toe.. multiple targets will overwhelm the lone Spec Ops or Medic.

As for it's use.. I only go with Assault where there is a low possibility of consistent heavy armoured vehicle flow and high infantry content.  Otherwise you're screwed with poor sprint distance and getting picked off from distances with light infantry such as Snipers, Spec Ops and Medics (L85A1).

As for the F2000, ive only used it a few (stolen) times and have been picked off enough times by it to know it as a press a button and the gun does the rest for you sort of weapon.  One of the most viscious and accurate guns in the game. Especially seeing as it's in the hands of an armoured infantry opponent.

Last edited by MaximumMayhem (2006-02-22 00:14:58)

 

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