Mekstizzle
WALKER
+3,611|7046|London, England
Thor is real. Or at least I wish gods like that were. So much cooler than the "thou shalt not do some crappy middle eastern crappy semitic crap"

Norse/Greek/Egyptian/Hindu Mythology ftw  - Do you know that Norse/Greek/Hindu/Pre-Islamic Iranian etc.. mythology is all related?
Dilbert_X
The X stands for
+1,822|6531|eXtreme to the maX
If no-one created god then an equally valid argument is no-one created the universe
Fuck Israel
AussieReaper
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+5,761|6578|what

Dilbert_X wrote:

If no-one created god then an equally valid argument is no-one created the universe
No. Because we know that the universe exists.
https://i.imgur.com/maVpUMN.png
CameronPoe
Member
+2,925|6980

Dilbert_X wrote:

If no-one created god then an equally valid argument is no-one created the universe
The point of my thread.
Braddock
Agitator
+916|6715|Éire
The ancient religions of Judaism, Christianity and Islam are just like Scientology only older.
Ajax_the_Great1
Dropped on request
+206|7071
You can't answer any of these questions.

The only possible answer is something the human mind can't comprehend you feeble humans...
ATG
Banned
+5,233|6954|Global Command

CameronPoe wrote:

Dilbert_X wrote:

If no-one created god then an equally valid argument is no-one created the universe
The point of my thread.
I was into Tarrot cards when I was young. You can ask the cards yes ( card right side up ) or no ( card upside down ) questions. I asked the cards if there was a God.



The card that came up was The Unknowable.


I had disturbing dreams and never used the cards again.
Years later, I thumbed through a pack of Tarot cards at a garage sale.


There was no such card called The Unknowable with wooden wheel within wheels with candles on the rim, storm clouds in the background and the sun and an eye.






True story.







From an anthropoligical point of view one can find common themes in the evolutions of religions in primitive and moderne societies, i.e. virgin births, ressurections and afterlife. To those who really believe that they have had super natural experiences or a relationship with god, they have the same unshakable belief; something hapened to them and they have faith that there is a afterlife, therefor there is a human need to interperet these experiences.

Modern organized religions rely on political manipulation, oral traditions, and rewriting of history to have their version of the truth ( or one that suites to control the public and generate revenue ) accepted by a large number of the population who desperatly wish to have that feeling of wonderment that comes from truly knowing there is a existence after this life.

No one can answer whether there is a god or not because it is way far beyond the chicken or the egg, it is Unknowable.

We can honestly hedge our eternal bets by betting on our taught version of the afterlife, and I don't look down on people who do, because I sort of envy their feeling of knowing, but we simply cannot know whether this is the end, middle or beginning.

Life is a two way door; you come in and you go out. Death is a one way door as far as we know, unless, like me you have experienced something. Then you know, Sometimes They Come Back.
And when you know that, you cannot rule out the possibility of God.


Do so at your eternal folly. For I assure you, there is life after death.
CoronadoSEAL
pics or it didn't happen
+207|6943|USA
the chicken egg

/waits for 50th response.
unnamednewbie13
Moderator
+2,072|7196|PNW

bakinacake wrote:

Noone. God was always there, he was not created. He is the beginning, middle, and end.
Because the universe(s) is(/are) quite as simple as a beginning and an end.
herrr_smity
Member
+156|7053|space command ur anus
by pepole living in caves, to distract them from the fact that they lived in caves
Locoloki
I got Mug 222 at Gritty's!!!!
+216|7065|Your moms bedroom
Chuck Norris
ceslayer23
IN YOUR MIRROR
+142|6786|CLOSER THAN I APPEAR
there is no beginning.
beginning was infinity years ago.
the end is in infinity years.
god was around infinity years ago and will be around for infinity more
jsnipy
...
+3,277|6947|...

God is the totality of all human consciousness. This life and history prior is a seizure.
HurricaИe
Banned
+877|6386|Washington DC
That one dude who wrote the Bible
jsnipy
...
+3,277|6947|...

HurricaИe wrote:

That one dude who wrote the Bible
Shakespeare?
Kmar
Truth is my Bitch
+5,695|7025|132 and Bush

As we shall see, the concept of time has no meaning before the beginning of the universe. This was first pointed out by St. Augustine. When asked: What did God do before he created the universe? Augustine didn't reply: He was preparing Hell for people who asked such questions. Instead, he said that time was a property of the universe that God created, and that time did not exist before the beginning of the universe. [Stephen Hawking, A Brief History of Time (New York: Bantam, 1988), p. 8]
The idea that space and time may form a closed surface without boundary also has profound implications for the role of God in the affairs of the universe. With the success of scientific theories in describing events, most people have come to believe that God allows the universe to evolve according to a set of laws and does not intervene in the universe to break these laws. However, the laws do not tell us what the universe should have looked like when it started -- it would still be up to God to wind up the clockwork and choose how to start it off. So long as the universe had a beginning, we could suppose it had a creator. But if the universe is really completely self-contained, having no boundary or edge, it would have neither beginning nor end: it would simply be. What place, then, for a creator? [Stephen Hawking, A Brief History of Time (New York: Bantam, 1988), p. 140-41.]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Brief_History_of_Time
Xbone Stormsurgezz
Poseidon
Fudgepack DeQueef
+3,253|6962|Long Island, New York

jsnipy wrote:

HurricaИe wrote:

That one dude who wrote the Bible
Shakespeare?
no, Stephen King
The_Lance_117
CANADA STRONG
+110|6361|CANADA
Desmond Hume did
ELITE-UK
Scratching my back
+170|6899|SHEFFIELD, ENGLAND
We did, better yet, the crazy loonies 2000 years ago did.
B.Schuss
I'm back, baby... ( sort of )
+664|7266|Cologne, Germany

Ajax_the_Great1 wrote:

You can't answer any of these questions.

The only possible answer is something the human mind can't comprehend you feeble humans...
spoken like a true agnostic.

I'd agree though. The question probably cannot be answered beyond doubt, and from my point of view, neither the question nor the answer bother me much, because it doesn't change anything and isn't really relevant for my life anyway.
DrunkFace
Germans did 911
+427|7106|Disaster Free Zone

SenorToenails wrote:

A bigger god.  Duh.
Closer to the truth then you may think. A super God star collapsed and the resulting materials bound together and created God the sun.

Last edited by DrunkFace (2008-04-17 00:26:53)

AussieReaper
( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
+5,761|6578|what

Instead of God creating the Universe, maybe the Universe created God.
https://i.imgur.com/maVpUMN.png
liquix
Member
+51|6879|Peoples Republic of Portland
the soviets
JahManRed
wank
+646|7053|IRELAND

Tom Cruise..............Bono?
PuckMercury
6 x 9 = 42
+298|6952|Portland, OR USA
Here's an idea.  God is created as a function of collective thought and belief.  He was created as the result of widespread thought that he had already been created.  Kind of a Black & White meets Hitchhiker's Guide's Babel Fish theory ...

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