CameronPoe wrote:
Dilbert_X wrote:
If no-one created god then an equally valid argument is no-one created the universe
The point of my thread.
I was into Tarrot cards when I was young. You can ask the cards yes ( card right side up ) or no ( card upside down ) questions. I asked the cards if there was a God.
The card that came up was The Unknowable.
I had disturbing dreams and never used the cards again.
Years later, I thumbed through a pack of Tarot cards at a garage sale.
There was no such card called The Unknowable with wooden wheel within wheels with candles on the rim, storm clouds in the background and the sun and an eye.
True story.
From an anthropoligical point of view one can find common themes in the evolutions of religions in primitive and moderne societies, i.e. virgin births, ressurections and afterlife. To those who really believe that they have had super natural experiences or a relationship with god, they have the same unshakable belief; something hapened to them and they have faith that there is a afterlife, therefor there is a human need to interperet these experiences.
Modern organized religions rely on political manipulation, oral traditions, and rewriting of history to have their version of the truth ( or one that suites to control the public and generate revenue ) accepted by a large number of the population who desperatly wish to have that feeling of wonderment that comes from truly knowing there is a existence after this life.
No one can answer whether there is a god or not because it is way far beyond the chicken or the egg, it is Unknowable.
We can honestly hedge our eternal bets by betting on our taught version of the afterlife, and I don't look down on people who do, because I sort of envy their feeling of
knowing, but we simply cannot know whether this is the end, middle or beginning.
Life is a two way door; you come in and you go out. Death is a one way door
as far as we know, unless, like me you have experienced something. Then you know, Sometimes They Come Back.
And when you
know that, you cannot rule out the possibility of God.
Do so at your eternal folly. For I assure you, there is life after death.