tobz102
Member
+11|6210|UK
i think its under performing, but im not sure. here is some print screens:

https://i27.tinypic.com/2v2xrmp.jpg           https://i25.tinypic.com/ou1v2q.jpg



Are these slower than they should be? i no my motherboard and cpu are ready for 1066MHz
kylef
Gone
+1,352|6764|N. Ireland
What is your motherboard? That RAM is running at 800MHz (400x2). Look in your BIOS (might be under an overclocking category) - you can manually change your RAM speed there. There should just be an option "1066" or something like that..
tobz102
Member
+11|6210|UK

kylef wrote:

What is your motherboard? That RAM is running at 800MHz (400x2). Look in your BIOS (might be under an overclocking category) - you can manually change your RAM speed there. There should just be an option "1066" or something like that..
its an asus m3n-ht...just been released. running a phenom so thats fully capable...and it says in the manual the board is too...im gonna have a look in the bios
jamiet757
Member
+138|6893
Most likely you have to adjust the BIOS to match your ram, it is probably just defaulting to something other than what the RAM is supposed to be. Also check the RAM voltage and timings, and match them to the specs of the RAM, as it might be defaulted to something slower.
tobz102
Member
+11|6210|UK
so i changed the bios to 1066. i dont really understand z-cpu, this is what the ram is capable of:

Crucial ballistix tracers pc2 - 8500C5
1066MHz
Memory Timings: CL=5
5-5-5-15 timings

here are the new print screens:

https://i26.tinypic.com/4kvgj9.jpg       https://i26.tinypic.com/33n7nv6.jpg



Are they running at what they're capable of?
max
Vela Incident
+1,652|6838|NYC / Hamburg

It's defaulting to the normal JEDEC timings. You'll gave to manually up the voltage and speed in your bios

edit: just saw your newest post. Up the voltage and drop the timings. Best just jot down the values from the EPP #2 column and manually enter them into the bios

Last edited by max (2008-04-26 10:16:11)

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aimless
Member
+166|6396|Texas
To change the timings, use MemSet, but make sure your chipset is supported before you do anything.

Could you post the CPU tab from cpu-z as well?

Last edited by aimless (2008-04-26 10:17:49)

tobz102
Member
+11|6210|UK

aimless wrote:

Check the fsb:dram ratio. Change it until the ram speed = 533MHz.

Could you post the CPU tab from cpu-z as well?
Sure its here:

https://i31.tinypic.com/dqog47.jpg
Bertster7
Confused Pothead
+1,101|6852|SE London

max wrote:

Up the voltage and drop the timings. Best just jot down the values from the EPP #2 column and manually enter them into the bios
tobz102
Member
+11|6210|UK
So the ram is stilll slow?
SpIk3y
Minister of Silly Walks
+67|6410|New Jersey
I don't know if Phenoms do this, but AMD X2's with odd-numbered multipliers underclock RAM.  For example, I have a 5200+ which has multi of x13, so I had to overclock the CPU frequency 17 Mhz to get my RAM to run at its rated speed.  The RAM speeds are linked somehow to the CPU frequency, so overclocking a bit should help.
max
Vela Incident
+1,652|6838|NYC / Hamburg

tobz102 wrote:

So the ram is stilll slow?
just do this

Bertster7 wrote:

max wrote:

Up the voltage and drop the timings. Best just jot down the values from the EPP #2 column and manually enter them into the bios
right now you're running at too high timings (i.e. slower) and probs your voltage is too low which can cause the PC to be unstable and crash/corrupt files/sell your soul to Satan
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aimless
Member
+166|6396|Texas

SpIk3y wrote:

I don't know if Phenoms do this, but AMD X2's with odd-numbered multipliers underclock RAM.  For example, I have a 5200+ which has multi of x13, so I had to overclock the CPU frequency 17 Mhz to get my RAM to run at its rated speed.  The RAM speeds are linked somehow to the CPU frequency, so overclocking a bit should help.
The ram speeds are linked to the mobo's bus speed. So is the cpu. They each have their own set of multipliers.
tobz102
Member
+11|6210|UK

max wrote:

tobz102 wrote:

So the ram is stilll slow?
just do this

Bertster7 wrote:

max wrote:

Up the voltage and drop the timings. Best just jot down the values from the EPP #2 column and manually enter them into the bios
right now you're running at too high timings (i.e. slower) and probs your voltage is too low which can cause the PC to be unstable and crash/corrupt files/sell your soul to Satan
I've never upped voltages or dropped timings before. What do i do?
max
Vela Incident
+1,652|6838|NYC / Hamburg

tobz102 wrote:

max wrote:

tobz102 wrote:

So the ram is stilll slow?
just do this

Bertster7 wrote:


right now you're running at too high timings (i.e. slower) and probs your voltage is too low which can cause the PC to be unstable and crash/corrupt files/sell your soul to Satan
I've never upped voltages or dropped timings before. What do i do?
the options should be in the advanced tab of your bios. Exact mobo name?
once upon a midnight dreary, while i pron surfed, weak and weary, over many a strange and spurious site of ' hot  xxx galore'. While i clicked my fav'rite bookmark, suddenly there came a warning, and my heart was filled with mourning, mourning for my dear amour, " 'Tis not possible!", i muttered, " give me back my free hardcore!"..... quoth the server, 404.
tobz102
Member
+11|6210|UK

max wrote:

tobz102 wrote:

max wrote:

tobz102 wrote:

So the ram is stilll slow?
just do this

right now you're running at too high timings (i.e. slower) and probs your voltage is too low which can cause the PC to be unstable and crash/corrupt files/sell your soul to Satan
I've never upped voltages or dropped timings before. What do i do?
the options should be in the advanced tab of your bios. Exact mobo name?
Asus m3n-ht deluxe/mempipe
tobz102
Member
+11|6210|UK
ok ive read up i think i understand...slightly.
What am i putting the timings and voltages to then?
02fxnmaurer
Member
+75|6753|Birmingham UK
400 kilovolts

12x
max
Vela Incident
+1,652|6838|NYC / Hamburg

go to the advanced tab

--> jumper free config
AI tuning: manual
Overclock options: disabled
CPU Voltage: auto
VDDA: auto
Memory Voltage: 2.2V
NB BR04 Chip V: auto
1.2V HT: auto
NB chip V: auto
CPU multi: auto
CPU frequency: 200

go back to the advanced tab
--> CPU config
--> DRAM config
Memory clock frequency: DDR2 1066
TCL: 5
TrCD:5
TRP:5
Tras: 15
1T/2T memory timing: 2T

then save and you're done
once upon a midnight dreary, while i pron surfed, weak and weary, over many a strange and spurious site of ' hot  xxx galore'. While i clicked my fav'rite bookmark, suddenly there came a warning, and my heart was filled with mourning, mourning for my dear amour, " 'Tis not possible!", i muttered, " give me back my free hardcore!"..... quoth the server, 404.
tobz102
Member
+11|6210|UK

max wrote:

go to the advanced tab

--> jumper free config
AI tuning: manual
Overclock options: disabled
CPU Voltage: auto
VDDA: auto
Memory Voltage: 2.2V
NB BR04 Chip V: auto
1.2V HT: auto
NB chip V: auto
CPU multi: auto
CPU frequency: 200

go back to the advanced tab
--> CPU config
--> DRAM config
Memory clock frequency: DDR2 1066
TCL: 5
TrCD:5
TRP:5
Tras: 15
1T/2T memory timing: 2T

then save and you're done
U sure this won't end in tears??
I'm trusting you lol
max
Vela Incident
+1,652|6838|NYC / Hamburg

tobz102 wrote:

max wrote:

go to the advanced tab

--> jumper free config
AI tuning: manual
Overclock options: disabled
CPU Voltage: auto
VDDA: auto
Memory Voltage: 2.2V
NB BR04 Chip V: auto
1.2V HT: auto
NB chip V: auto
CPU multi: auto
CPU frequency: 200

go back to the advanced tab
--> CPU config
--> DRAM config
Memory clock frequency: DDR2 1066
TCL: 5
TrCD:5
TRP:5
Tras: 15
1T/2T memory timing: 2T

then save and you're done
U sure this won't end in tears??
I'm trusting you lol
should work. you can always reset your bios if something goes wrong

pics of how to do it coming up
once upon a midnight dreary, while i pron surfed, weak and weary, over many a strange and spurious site of ' hot  xxx galore'. While i clicked my fav'rite bookmark, suddenly there came a warning, and my heart was filled with mourning, mourning for my dear amour, " 'Tis not possible!", i muttered, " give me back my free hardcore!"..... quoth the server, 404.
max
Vela Incident
+1,652|6838|NYC / Hamburg

follow up:
https://i30.tinypic.com/2j2i82o.png
once upon a midnight dreary, while i pron surfed, weak and weary, over many a strange and spurious site of ' hot  xxx galore'. While i clicked my fav'rite bookmark, suddenly there came a warning, and my heart was filled with mourning, mourning for my dear amour, " 'Tis not possible!", i muttered, " give me back my free hardcore!"..... quoth the server, 404.
tobz102
Member
+11|6210|UK
so i've done it, seems ok, heres the new z-cpu stuff:

https://i31.tinypic.com/5nu6g1.jpg      https://i28.tinypic.com/2vble1k.jpg      https://i29.tinypic.com/2vwcsnd.jpg

best way to tell its stable?? memtest?
Aries_37
arrivederci frog
+368|6846|London
If you're worried, don't do it. The difference in performance between their defaults and what you'll get now are negligible, compared to say, what you'd get if you overclocked your cpu. In other words if you're gonna take the (miniscule) risk and do anything, do it right and overclock your cpu as well

EDIT: looking at cpu-z it looks fine. Go google orthos or prime95 for some whole system stress testing, but for just the memory memtest is fine

Last edited by Aries_37 (2008-04-26 11:13:17)

tobz102
Member
+11|6210|UK

Aries_37 wrote:

If you're worried, don't do it. The difference in performance between their defaults and what you'll get now are negligible, compared to say, what you'd get if you overclocked your cpu. In other words if you're gonna take the (miniscule) risk and do anything, do it right and overclock your cpu as well
Phenoms run hotttt
already at 37ish idle

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