Poll

What would you rather have?

1x Nvidia 280 GTX39%39% - 11
2x ATI 487046%46% - 13
Neither14%14% - 4
Total: 28
Bell
Frosties > Cornflakes
+362|6819|UK

READ THE POST FIRST

Not that I want to be bossy but it's important to consider the asumptions made in the post, and they are simply assumptions but I think atleast there fairly accurate.  On my daily browsing, as often as not I end up on a tech form of some description as afterall it is something I, and a lot of us are interested in.  Now, I don't know about anyone else but I have observed a HUGE number of utter fanboys claiming this that and the next thing, and the majority of them, don't have a clue, but what the hell thats fine, if brand loyalty is something that concerns you then fair enough.  But it is specifically the Nvidia lot that are anoying me, and I put this question to many of them and am dumbfounded by the result, so I will replicate it here.

If we assume, that the new Nvidia card is quicker than the next ATI (and it almost certainly will, its a high end card vs a mid range afterall) then fair enough on face value Nvidia > ATI.  But not as simple as that.  Let's also assume, that the figures of $200-250 for the RV770 is right, and $500-600 for the 280 GTX is also correct.  Here is my question. 

Considering those prices, if we assumed, that the 4870 in crossfire scaled enough to beat the 280 GTX in all your precious benchmarks, and cost less, overall, what would you buy?  So to simplfy that, one GTX jumps up and down all over one 4870, BUT, two 4870s reverse that scenario.

I was stunned to see how many went for the Nvidia option, infact nearly 3/4 of them went for Nvidia.  Now, like I said, it doesnt affect me, and infact I wonder why I even care, but I find it quite interesting how people who claim to know it all seem to lack a bit of logic.

Am also aware of the fact, for crossfire you would need a suitable motherboard, AND a fairly meaty power supply to run the thing (though the 280 GTX aint exactly going to be renound for enviromentally friendlyness).  I also consider that many own SLI motherboards and thus want to stay with the Nvidia brand, and/or would look into SLI two GTX cards at some point.  But excluding that, on face value what would you go for?

Am not a fanboy either btw (although looking at this post it kinda seems that way), I'd just like to point out, though I would like to see ATI beat Nvidia this round and spark some, God forbid, competition?  But hey am kinky that way.

Martyn
Gooners
Wiki Contributor
+2,700|6903

In my honest opinion, I would rather have 2 ATi 4870's, because I'm sort of an ATi fanboy, and because of the performance:cost ratio.
SEREVENT
MASSIVE G STAR
+605|6378|Birmingham, UK
ATI, 'cause all of my stuff are ATI.
ghettoperson
Member
+1,943|6919

Well, I have a Crossfire compatible mobo so I'd probably go for ATi, however I'd have to take into consideration the cost of a new PSU as I've only got a 520w one atm, and a decent high wattage PSU is a lot of money. I'd also probably also by one card at a time as I really cannot afford to drop that kind of money in one go.
Bell
Frosties > Cornflakes
+362|6819|UK

ghettoperson wrote:

Well, I have a Crossfire compatible mobo so I'd probably go for ATi, however I'd have to take into consideration the cost of a new PSU as I've only got a 520w one atm, and a decent high wattage PSU is a lot of money. I'd also probably also by one card at a time as I really cannot afford to drop that kind of money in one go.
Same here, there claiming 25% quicker than a 8800GT all around on the net, and the potential for an extremly nice overclock, so lets say up to 35-40%, that run everything with the exception of crysis very nicely I should think (infact it probably manage crysis just fine less you are really anal about it).  So I cant really see the justification for that Nvidia card other than braggin rights, especially if we consider the points I made that you can buy two 4870s for that price (or there abouts).

Martyn
ghettoperson
Member
+1,943|6919

I have to say, for all I wish I had an uber graphics set up, my X1950 handles everything I pay right now just fine. It struggles a little with CoD4 but I can still play it on almost all the highest settings with the occasional stutter. I don't even have Crysis but despite that I still want a set up that will play it well. TBH there aren't that many games out right now that interest me. I will be getting FSX when I get back home and have my joystick though which will rape my computer. I should probably see how much I like it before I start ordering new stuff though.
Winston_Churchill
Bazinga!
+521|7009|Toronto | Canada

I'd go for the single card setup, only because of the horror stories I've heard about dual card setups.
SpIk3y
Minister of Silly Walks
+67|6409|New Jersey

Winston_Churchill wrote:

I'd go for the single card setup, only because of the horror stories I've heard about dual card setups.
Same.  I'm not ready to deal with SLI or Crossfire yet, seems like too much hassle.
Noobeater
Northern numpty
+194|6717|Boulder, CO
Personally I'd go for the single card setup as I couldn't be arsed to set up a crossfire rig, as well as that I believe it gives more options to expand on as later you could run two in SLI though god knows what sort of game would need that.
GC_PaNzerFIN
Work and study @ Technical Uni
+528|6685|Finland

2x HD 4870 X2
3930K | H100i | RIVF | 16GB DDR3 | GTX 480 | AX750 | 800D | 512GB SSD | 3TB HDD | Xonar DX | W8
Gooners
Wiki Contributor
+2,700|6903

GC_PaNzerFIN wrote:

2x HD 4870 X2
QuadFire
.Sup
be nice
+2,646|6724|The Twilight Zone

Gooners wrote:

GC_PaNzerFIN wrote:

2x HD 4870 X2
QuadFire
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Brasso
member
+1,549|6901

Option two or

GC_PaNzerFIN wrote:

2x HD 4870 X2
"people in ny have a general idea of how to drive. one of the pedals goes forward the other one prevents you from dying"
Gooners
Wiki Contributor
+2,700|6903

.Sup wrote:

Gooners wrote:

GC_PaNzerFIN wrote:

2x HD 4870 X2
QuadFire
.Sup
be nice
+2,646|6724|The Twilight Zone

Gooners wrote:

.Sup wrote:

Gooners wrote:


QuadFire
2x
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Bell
Frosties > Cornflakes
+362|6819|UK

.Sup wrote:

Gooners wrote:

.Sup wrote:


2x
I wonder if that would be quicker than a 280 GTX SLI set-up.  Infact does the card have two SLI connectors?  Tri SLI in that thing would be fucking insane.

Martyn
.Sup
be nice
+2,646|6724|The Twilight Zone

Bell wrote:

.Sup wrote:

Gooners wrote:


2x
I wonder if that would be quicker than a 280 GTX SLI set-up.  Infact does the card have two SLI connectors?  Tri SLI in that thing would be fucking insane.

Martyn
You can put 4 ATI cards in crossfire. 4>3 agree?
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Brasso
member
+1,549|6901

.Sup wrote:

Bell wrote:

.Sup wrote:


2x
I wonder if that would be quicker than a 280 GTX SLI set-up.  Infact does the card have two SLI connectors?  Tri SLI in that thing would be fucking insane.

Martyn
You can put 4 ATI cards in crossfire. 4>3 agree?
depends, if the GTX280 is as quick as they say it'll be, it'll be like saying shooting 4 9mm bullets are better than shooting 3 .45s.  they'd be apples and oranges.
"people in ny have a general idea of how to drive. one of the pedals goes forward the other one prevents you from dying"
kylef
Gone
+1,352|6763|N. Ireland
Because my motherboard is crossfire I've always been lenient to ATi. Although the ball, at least right now, is still in nVidia's court.
.Sup
be nice
+2,646|6724|The Twilight Zone

haffeysucks wrote:

.Sup wrote:

Bell wrote:


I wonder if that would be quicker than a 280 GTX SLI set-up.  Infact does the card have two SLI connectors?  Tri SLI in that thing would be fucking insane.

Martyn
You can put 4 ATI cards in crossfire. 4>3 agree?
depends, if the GTX280 is as quick as they say it'll be, it'll be like saying shooting 4 9mm bullets are better than shooting 3 .45s.  they'd be apples and oranges.
You have a point haffey. But i suspect ATI will be firing bazooka rockets and nVidia with water pistol.
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kylef
Gone
+1,352|6763|N. Ireland
ghettoperson
Member
+1,943|6919

.Sup wrote:

haffeysucks wrote:

.Sup wrote:


You can put 4 ATI cards in crossfire. 4>3 agree?
depends, if the GTX280 is as quick as they say it'll be, it'll be like saying shooting 4 9mm bullets are better than shooting 3 .45s.  they'd be apples and oranges.
You have a point haffey. But i suspect ATI will be firing bazooka rockets and nVidia with water pistol.
Based on their current range, it seems unlikely that they'll massively outperform NVidia.
Bell
Frosties > Cornflakes
+362|6819|UK

.Sup wrote:

Bell wrote:

.Sup wrote:


2x
I wonder if that would be quicker than a 280 GTX SLI set-up.  Infact does the card have two SLI connectors?  Tri SLI in that thing would be fucking insane.

Martyn
You can put 4 ATI cards in crossfire. 4>3 agree?
Mmmmm, though didnt Tri SLI 9800GTX > Quad SLI 9800GX2?  Keeping things simple lads

I suppose we could speculate but its not really that long to go till we are enlightend.  I havent descided where am going, I am going to order a new motherboard and graphics card just after the release (if I can stand not to click pre order), by then we should have a fairly good idea of whats what and by how much.  I was intending on Asus Maximus X38 and 2x4870 sexfire (<).  Should manage that on a 700W seasonic I should think.

Martyn
The#1Spot
Member
+105|6810|byah

Gooners wrote:

GC_PaNzerFIN wrote:

3x HD 4870 X2
QuadFire
Sexfire

The only option imo

Last edited by The#1Spot (2008-05-21 15:21:40)

GC_PaNzerFIN
Work and study @ Technical Uni
+528|6685|Finland

The#1Spot wrote:

Gooners wrote:

GC_PaNzerFIN wrote:

3x HD 4870 X2
QuadFire
Sexfire

The only option imo
impossible tbh.
3930K | H100i | RIVF | 16GB DDR3 | GTX 480 | AX750 | 800D | 512GB SSD | 3TB HDD | Xonar DX | W8

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