Women and their children- Fathers 4 justice.

2008-06-08 11:38:03

#1

SEREVENT: MASSIVE G STAR; +605|6530|Birmingham, UK

Today 2 men from Fathers 4 Justice- Mark Harris and Jolly Stanesby scaled onto Labour deputy leader Harriet Harman's house to protest. Fathers 4 Justice is made up for men wanting access to THEIR children. Do you think they have a point?

Jolly Stanesby wrote:
"I was considering coming down but they've turned nasty and this is the trouble with dealing with the family courts all the time.

"Dads get criticised, criticised, criticised, and now I'm even more determined than ever to stay up here as long as possible."

Link: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7442435.stm

So anyways, i've often heard stories of women saying: It's MY baby, I carried it for 9 months its mine"

Do you think that women could say this, since they wouldn't even have the baby if it wasn't for the father? Men and women should have equal rights in seeing the baby, not one person can "claim" the baby.

I'm not being sexist or anything, but i just think that men get least responsibility, especially divorced couples.

What do you think?

2008-06-08 11:39:37

#2

jord: Member; +2,382|7101|The North, beyond the wall.

He's got a weeks rations. That's all I've got to say, this issue isn't one I really feel strongly about.

2008-06-08 12:12:24

#3

Doctor Strangelove: Real Battlefield Veterinarian.; +1,758|6891

Didn't once two guys from that group dress up as Batman and Robin and scale Buckingham Palace?

2008-06-08 12:13:37

#4

ATG: Banned; +5,233|6952|Global Command

jord wrote:
He's got a weeks rations. That's all I've got to say, this issue isn't one I really feel strongly about.

You would if you were a divorced father.

2008-06-08 12:16:41

#5

jord: Member; +2,382|7101|The North, beyond the wall.

ATG wrote:
jord wrote:
He's got a weeks rations. That's all I've got to say, this issue isn't one I really feel strongly about.
You would if you were a divorced father.

Maybe, but I'm not. Hence my lack of strong feelings.

2008-06-08 13:06:22

#6

SEREVENT: MASSIVE G STAR; +605|6530|Birmingham, UK

DoctaStrangelove wrote:
Didn't once two guys from that group dress up as Batman and Robin and scale Buckingham Palace?

Ahh yes, i remember that as if it were yesterday.

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2008-06-08 13:46:11

#7

Mitch: 16 more years; +877|6948|South Florida

DoctaStrangelove wrote:
Didn't once two guys from that group dress up as Batman and Robin and scale Buckingham Palace?

karma for 666 day

15 more years! 15 more years!

2008-06-08 17:55:59

#8

liquix: Member; +51|6876|Peoples Republic of Portland

a kid is 50/50. that's how i see it.

2008-06-08 19:13:18

#9

LividBovine: The Year of the Cow!; +175|6802|MN

liquix wrote:
a kid is 50/50. that's how i see it.

Doesn't it matter who the better parent is?

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2008-06-08 19:29:32

#10

krazed: Admiral of the Bathtub; +619|7202|Great Brown North

fathers get ignored all too often in custody disputes

2008-06-08 20:34:06

#11

ZombieVampire!: The Gecko; +69|6250

The 2 bits I find really interesting:

1) A father can lose all rights to access a child yet still be required to pay child support

2) Nobody cares about sexism when it's to the benefit of women

2008-06-08 20:47:20

#12

krazed: Admiral of the Bathtub; +619|7202|Great Brown North

ZombieVampire! wrote:
The 2 bits I find really interesting:

1) A father can lose all rights to access a child yet still be required to pay child support

2) Nobody cares about sexism when it's to the benefit of women

i care, but i've been a sexist over it funny how the world works

2008-06-08 20:48:35

#13

ZombieVampire!: The Gecko; +69|6250

Yeah, I should amend that to:

Nobody in power cares when it's to the benefit of women, and if they do they're sexist.

2008-06-08 20:56:27

#14

ZombieVampire!: The Gecko; +69|6250

Uh..........there are a number of people who haven't said that.

Try reading.

2008-06-08 20:57:43

#15

konfusion: mostly afk; +480|6973|CH/BR - in UK

Well, it all depends. If the woman is one of the modern, emancipated "you stay at home with the baby while I go out" women, or if the guy works a lot to keep the checks coming in, I think it should be 50/50. If he's not around a lot, he shouldn't expect to suddenly get rights.

-konfusion

2008-06-08 21:04:44

#16

The#1Spot: Member; +105|6962|byah

I think its better for the man to support the child considering most men have a job where the woman does not. I have seen/red a few cases that the divorced wife's new husband or boyfriend sexually abuses the child or even kills them. When the father has custody over the child I have never heard of an abuse case (not saying there is none but much lower).

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