Brasso
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+1,549|6900

Bell wrote:

haffeysucks wrote:

Scorpion0x17 wrote:

meaningless vaporstats.
nvidia fanboy.
Well, he has a point in that winning in 3DMark doesnt always constitute better fps in games.  If it is indeed true.

Martyn
oh come on, life isn't about games.




or is it?
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The#1Spot
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haffeysucks wrote:

=Karma-Kills= wrote:

Source?

The original article makes no claim about price / performance, just performance. And in that sense it is an unfair comparision.
if you've been paying attention to graphics news lately, the GTX 280 is going to be priced at around $600, and the 4870X2 will be priced around $500.
actually the gtx is close to 700$
Brasso
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The#1Spot wrote:

haffeysucks wrote:

=Karma-Kills= wrote:

Source?

The original article makes no claim about price / performance, just performance. And in that sense it is an unfair comparision.
if you've been paying attention to graphics news lately, the GTX 280 is going to be priced at around $600, and the 4870X2 will be priced around $500.
actually the gtx is close to 700$
debatable.  all i know is that the price of the GTX 280 > the price of the 4870X2.
"people in ny have a general idea of how to drive. one of the pedals goes forward the other one prevents you from dying"
Poseidon
Fudgepack DeQueef
+3,253|6807|Long Island, New York

haffeysucks wrote:

Scorpion0x17 wrote:

meaningless vaporstats.
nvidia fanboy.
Haffey, I find that funny when you have .Sup saying "GTX280 will suck anyways" in your OP. There's no official benchmarks out yet. Nobody has truly tested the cards in games. Hell, there's not even any official prices out IIRC. It's all speculations.

So don't go calling Scorpion a fanboy. Fanboyism works both ways.
Brasso
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Poseidon wrote:

haffeysucks wrote:

Scorpion0x17 wrote:

meaningless vaporstats.
nvidia fanboy.
Haffey, I find that funny when you have .Sup saying "GTX280 will suck anyways" in your OP. There's no official benchmarks out yet. Nobody has truly tested the cards in games. Hell, there's not even any official prices out IIRC. It's all speculations.

So don't go calling Scorpion a fanboy. Fanboyism works both ways.
i countered his untrue quote with my very own.

it was only a broma, and i used to be a nvidia fanboy myself until the 4000 specs and prices were unearthed.  now i have realized that the real way to go is to support whichever company has the upper hand atm, and in a couple weeks, it is bound to be ATi.  if Intel magically made a beastly chip appear right now, i would snatch it up.  it's not the brand, it's the performance/price.
"people in ny have a general idea of how to drive. one of the pedals goes forward the other one prevents you from dying"
.Sup
be nice
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True the GTX might be better than the new X2 BUT the price difference between these two will be enormous while the performance difference will be minimal.
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Computer_Guy
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+54|6967

haffeysucks wrote:

it's not the brand, it's the performance/price.
thats true
unnamednewbie13
Moderator
+2,054|7041|PNW

I don't care so much about small performance differences as I do about driver stability. That will be the thing that makes my decision.

haffeysucks wrote:

it's not the brand, it's the performance/price and driver support.
Fixed.

Last edited by unnamednewbie13 (2008-06-07 16:41:52)

.Sup
be nice
+2,646|6723|The Twilight Zone

unnamednewbie13 wrote:

I don't care so much about small performance differences as I do about driver stability. That will be the thing that makes my decision.

haffeysucks wrote:

it's not the brand, it's the performance/price and driver support.
Fixed.
I'll have to agree on this one but so far i had no problems (luckily) with graphics drivers.
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ghettoperson
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haffeysucks wrote:

Scorpion0x17 wrote:

meaningless vaporstats.
nvidia fanboy.
Not at all. ATi have kicked the crap out of NVidia in 3DMark with their last generation of cards, but in terms of real world performance the Nvidia cards were far superior. Show me some benchmarks on a bunch of games and the actual prices (not the RRP bullshit as it's always ~$100 higher) and then I'll make up my mind about what card to get.
GC_PaNzerFIN
Work and study @ Technical Uni
+528|6684|Finland

interesting... I hope ATi kicks some nv butt so we can get awsome cards for decent price from BOTH companies. I personally can't wait for the HD 58x0 series to go with my X58 Nehalem build. (unless there would be SLi support for X58. in my dreams tbh...)

edit: just came back for 15mins with library lappy.

Last edited by GC_PaNzerFIN (2008-06-10 04:25:25)

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Gooners
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GC_PaNzerFIN wrote:

interesting... I hope ATi kicks some nv butt so we can get awsome cards for decent price from BOTH companies. I personally can't wait for the HD 58x0 series to go with my X58 Nehalem build. (unless there would be SLi support for X58. in my dreams tbh...)

edit: just came back for 15mins with library lappy.
Hi Panz
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Poseidon wrote:

As I always say, I'll wait until I see some official benchmarks before going off an article.

If those official benchmarks DO indeed prove the 4870X2 to be superior, you'll be seeing my sig change though...
Your sig has one thing failing. 1333MHz DDR3... Go for 1600 or 1866 at least then :S
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Brasso
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GC_PaNzerFIN wrote:

interesting... I hope ATi kicks some nv butt so we can get awsome cards for decent price from BOTH companies. I personally can't wait for the HD 58x0 series to go with my X58 Nehalem build. (unless there would be SLi support for X58. in my dreams tbh...)

edit: just came back for 15mins with library lappy.
I was surprised with your post!  <3 you
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Scorpion0x17
can detect anyone's visible post count...
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ghettoperson wrote:

haffeysucks wrote:

Scorpion0x17 wrote:

meaningless vaporstats.
nvidia fanboy.
Not at all. ATi have kicked the crap out of NVidia in 3DMark with their last generation of cards, but in terms of real world performance the Nvidia cards were far superior. Show me some benchmarks on a bunch of games and the actual prices (not the RRP bullshit as it's always ~$100 higher) and then I'll make up my mind about what card to get.
Uh? Do I have a secret identity? One so secret even I didn't know about it?

By day he's "Scorpion0x17"...

By night...

He's ghettoperson!



Anyway, if I may answer haffey's unwarranted attack on my person (;P) for myself - actually I own (and am more of a fan of) an ATI gpu - so, ner!

But, my alterego got it about right - I never believe stats until someone reputable like Tom's has got their hands a final release build.

EDIT: Likewise with prices - companies generally don't release their true pricing structures before release - gives the competition too much information.

Last edited by Scorpion0x17 (2008-06-10 11:10:38)

ghettoperson
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Scorpion0x17 wrote:

ghettoperson wrote:

haffeysucks wrote:


nvidia fanboy.
Not at all. ATi have kicked the crap out of NVidia in 3DMark with their last generation of cards, but in terms of real world performance the Nvidia cards were far superior. Show me some benchmarks on a bunch of games and the actual prices (not the RRP bullshit as it's always ~$100 higher) and then I'll make up my mind about what card to get.
Uh? Do I have a secret identity? One so secret even I didn't know about it?

By day he's "Scorpion0x17"...

By night...

He's ghettoperson!



Anyway, if I may answer haffey's unwarranted attack on my person (;P) for myself - actually I own (and am more of a fan of) an ATI gpu - so, ner!

But, my alterego got it about right - I never believe stats until someone reputable like Tom's has got their hands a final release build.

EDIT: Likewise with prices - companies generally don't release their true pricing structures before release - gives the competition too much information.
Only trying to help a brotha' out.
Scorpion0x17
can detect anyone's visible post count...
+691|7036|Cambridge (UK)

haffeysucks wrote:

Bell wrote:

haffeysucks wrote:


nvidia fanboy.
Well, he has a point in that winning in 3DMark doesnt always constitute better fps in games.  If it is indeed true.

Martyn
oh come on, life isn't about games.




or is it?
No, games are about life.
SpIk3y
Minister of Silly Walks
+67|6409|New Jersey
Games are about doing what you can't do in real life.  Otherwise, they'd be boring.
Cybargs
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Game benchmarks then I shall decide.
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.Sup
be nice
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cyborg_ninja-117 wrote:

Game benchmarks then I shall decide.
hey ur from Taiwan, you can bench em for free!
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Cybargs
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.Sup wrote:

cyborg_ninja-117 wrote:

Game benchmarks then I shall decide.
hey ur from Taiwan, you can bench em for free!
I might even head to computex tomorrow actually, if I do, I'll tell how it goes.
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ghettoperson
Member
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Some slightly more meaningful numbers.

EDIT: Some comparative benchmarks to 9800GTX.

Last edited by ghettoperson (2008-06-12 07:08:19)

.Sup
be nice
+2,646|6723|The Twilight Zone

ghettoperson wrote:

Some slightly more meaningful numbers.

EDIT: [url=http://forum.donanimhaber.com/m_23897423/tm.htm]Some comparative benchmarks to 9800GTX[url].
you forgot to put this in: /


The short story: not enough, not nearly enough. It is barely faster than a GX2, yields are crap...
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ghettoperson
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I know, rather dissapointing. Especially since they're going to be even more expensive than the ATi cards. Which looks like they're going to be fucking rapid.
Brasso
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I take news from the Inquirer with a bit of salt.  That being said, if the results are true, lol for nVidia.  The 2nd link isn't working atm either.

Take a look at this as well: http://www.theinquirer.net/gb/inquirer/ … nce-posted
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