The Other Side of War Propaganda

2008-06-12 16:54:05

#1

Turquoise: O Canada; +1,596|6827|North Carolina

In this forum, we often talk about how the government will twist the truth to serve its agendas in the Middle East by doing things like overstating the effectiveness of the surge. However, there is another side to propaganda in the War on Terror -- the propaganda in favor of insurgents.

Observe the picture below...

Notice anything strange?

The woman pictured claims that the bullets she's holding hit her house during a coalition raid. I guess the soldiers must have thrown them, since they are still in their casings.

The questions I have are... How much of the media coverage of the occupation do you think is being affected by people sympathetic to the insurgents deliberately lying to the press, and how much of the press itself do you think is sympathetic to the insurgents?

In addition to this... Have you seen any other blatant examples of the press slanted in favor of the insurgents like the picture shown above? If so, feel free to post them.

2008-06-12 17:02:13

#2

Braddock: Agitator; +916|6713|Éire

I work in the multimedia industry and can tell when graphic manipulation is at play and furthermore I have done research and study in the field of semiotics for thesis work but I worry for the less discerning members of the public.

That entire hand, never mind the bullets, looks fake btw.

2008-06-12 17:05:10

#3

Turquoise: O Canada; +1,596|6827|North Carolina

So, essentially, the people posting this story faked the display of the bullets, while at the same time, proved their ignorance in how bullets work?

2008-06-12 17:05:23

#4

SEREMAKER: BABYMAKIN EXPERT √; +2,187|6991|Mountains of NC

ehhhhhhhhhh drive-by media ........... to bad the old rule can't set in " If you've got nothing nice to say, then don't say anything at all "

https://static.bf2s.com/files/user/17445/carhartt.jpg

2008-06-12 17:11:02

#5

CaptainSpaulding71: Member; +119|6779|CA, USA

That newslady in the canoe during katrina saying how deep and terrible the flooding was while firemen were wading ankle deep through the same water behind her. stuff like that?

[EDIT]: actually this was not katrina but a flood in NJ - sorry for the mixup

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2008-06-12 17:14:24

#6

Turquoise: O Canada; +1,596|6827|North Carolina

Yes... good example. Clear cases of the media lying in general meshes with this thread well enough that I'd like to extend this thread to include that as well.

2008-06-12 17:20:00

#7

Lotta_Drool: Spit; +350|6605|Ireland

That's a woman? No wonder the muslims are so willing to blow themselves up.

2008-06-12 17:20:02

#8

m3thod: All kiiiiiiiiinds of gainz; +2,197|7094|UK

lol i'll openly admit i didn't have a clue those bullets were still in the casings. That picture worked a charm on me. Goes to show the US is really up against it....maybe deservedly so....

I wouldn't say anyone is sympathetic to insurgents, rather its fucking the US back in every which way possible for its questionable behavior of late. There's more than one way to take down goliath.

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Blackbelts are just whitebelts who have never quit.

2008-06-12 17:21:11

#9

m3thod: All kiiiiiiiiinds of gainz; +2,197|7094|UK

Lotta_Drool wrote:
That's a woman? No wonder the muslims are so willing to blow themselves up.

yeah and im sure your old granny is a sexy piece of crumpet and all the teenagers jizz over pictures of her.

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Blackbelts are just whitebelts who have never quit.

2008-06-12 17:22:14

#10

Lotta_Drool: Spit; +350|6605|Ireland

m3thod wrote:
lol i'll openly admit i didn't have a clue those bullets were still in the casings. That picture worked a charm on me. Goes to show the US is really up against it....maybe deservedly so....

I wouldn't say anyone is sympathetic to insurgents, rather its fucking the US back in every which way possible for its questionable behavior of late. More than one way to take down goliath.

I won't say it, but the people who aren't you know what I am thinking.

2008-06-12 17:23:19

#11

m3thod: All kiiiiiiiiinds of gainz; +2,197|7094|UK

Lotta_Drool wrote:
m3thod wrote:
lol i'll openly admit i didn't have a clue those bullets were still in the casings. That picture worked a charm on me. Goes to show the US is really up against it....maybe deservedly so....

I wouldn't say anyone is sympathetic to insurgents, rather its fucking the US back in every which way possible for its questionable behavior of late. More than one way to take down goliath.
I won't say it, but the people who aren't you know what I am thinking.

The world minus neo cons and 1 tony blair?

Blackbelts are just whitebelts who have never quit.

2008-06-12 17:24:16

#12

Turquoise: O Canada; +1,596|6827|North Carolina

m3thod wrote:
lol i'll openly admit i didn't have a clue those bullets were still in the casings. That picture worked a charm on me. Goes to show the US is really up against it....maybe deservedly so....

I wouldn't say anyone is sympathetic to insurgents, rather its fucking the US back in every which way possible for its questionable behavior of late. More than one way to take down goliath.

True, but deceit only works for so long -- as our own government has realized.

The hateful ways of the extremists in Pakistan have slowly started to get the masses there more in favor of moderation and proactive counterterrorism.

2008-06-12 17:26:58

#13

Kmar: Truth is my Bitch; +5,695|7023|132 and Bush

fauxtography .. google it.

Xbone Stormsurgezz

2008-06-12 17:27:16

#14

God Save the Queen: Banned; +628|6766|tropical regions of london

the truth sucks. lies are easy.

2008-06-12 17:29:13

#15

God Save the Queen: Banned; +628|6766|tropical regions of london

wanna know why didnt attack fallujah until after the 1st week of november 2004? because if the assault went sour, bush would have lost. giving more time for the insurgency to prepare.

2008-06-12 17:36:31

#16

CaptainSpaulding71: Member; +119|6779|CA, USA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iOsGo_HWP-c Hillary's sniper fire in Bosnia gaffe

2008-06-12 17:38:18

#17

Turquoise: O Canada; +1,596|6827|North Carolina

Kmarion wrote:
fauxtography .. google it.

Good call... I was thinking of that one when I started this thread.

2008-06-12 17:50:32

#18

CaptainSpaulding71: Member; +119|6779|CA, USA

http://www.israeltoday.co.il/default.as … ;nid=15687

example of when mainstream media takes what palestinians report without question even though it is later found to be false AND the media does not even do a retraction. shame!

2008-06-12 18:31:49

#19

imortal: Member; +240|7087|Austin, TX

Speaking of... Whatever happened to that "Isreali tank blows up jounalist truck?" That died a fast death, didn't it?

2008-06-12 18:34:02

#20

ATG: Banned; +5,233|6951|Global Command

Idiots.

2008-06-12 18:40:32

#21

Vax: Member; +42|6274|Flyover country

Hezbollah (CNN talking about the fauxtography incident)

Bilal Hussein, AP photographer, working for the insurgents?

Boston Globe ran fake rape pics

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2008-06-13 01:50:31

#22

Braddock: Agitator; +916|6713|Éire

pierro wrote:
Does anybody remember this from Israel vs. Hezbollah?

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/e … arison.jpg

That was a real rookie mistake by Reuters that time, anyone with Photoshop can instantly recognise those repeating patterns caused by shoddy use of the 'Clone' tool. It's the same with the picture in the OP, those bullets look like they're fresh out of the ammo store...what a bunch of idiots.

2008-06-13 02:10:06

#23

oug: Calmer than you are.; +380|6942|Πάϊ

It's obvious there's a media war going on, and it is obvious from the bullets, or the ambulances etc who is dominating this war. I mean, FFS 250 million Americans think that the Israelis are on the defence!

_ƒ³

2008-06-13 03:59:48

#24

FEOS: Bellicose Yankee Air Pirate; +1,182|6833|'Murka

Turquoise wrote:
In this forum, we often talk about how the government will twist the truth to serve its agendas in the Middle East by doing things like overstating the effectiveness of the surge. However, there is another side to propaganda in the War on Terror -- the propaganda in favor of insurgents.

Observe the picture below...

http://i29.tinypic.com/5orw2a.jpg

Notice anything strange?

The woman pictured claims that the bullets she's holding hit her house during a coalition raid. I guess the soldiers must have thrown them, since they are still in their casings.

The questions I have are... How much of the media coverage of the occupation do you think is being affected by people sympathetic to the insurgents deliberately lying to the press, and how much of the press itself do you think is sympathetic to the insurgents?

In addition to this... Have you seen any other blatant examples of the press slanted in favor of the insurgents like the picture shown above? If so, feel free to post them.

I don't know that it's necessarily sympathy for the insurgents. IMO, bias in reporting is driven by the reporters/staffs' enmity toward Bush and his administration. Anything that makes any decision made by them look bad is a victory in their minds...enough so that a few are willing to either fabricate (a very small minority--Reuters photo) or not research as much as they should (likely majority--unspent bullets), either deliberately or unconsciously.

“Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid.”
― Albert Einstein
Doing the popular thing is not always right. Doing the right thing is not always popular

2008-06-13 14:26:12

#25

CaptainSpaulding71: Member; +119|6779|CA, USA

Here's another case of media spin. the story basically states that there are supposedly high rate of soldier suicides yet no one from media compares that with civilian rate of suicides that is trending actually much higher than the soldier rate. interesting use of spin to say the war is causing increased suicides. maybe the civilians are killing themselves because of the stress of war too? methinks they had mental problems before.

http://jewishworldreview.com/cols/sowell061108.php3

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