So was Jesus a Jew or not going by these arguments?
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Jew can stand for a race or religion depending on what it is being used for. Christians could do the same thing if they wanted to make up some ethnic group called Christian and claim that that ethnic group originated out of Rome.
Hitler tried to create the Ayrian Race by sprinkling pixie dust on people with blonde hair, blue eyes, and a European heritage. We all know that made up race was much less popular than the Jewish race race in the end though.
Hitler tried to create the Ayrian Race by sprinkling pixie dust on people with blonde hair, blue eyes, and a European heritage. We all know that made up race was much less popular than the Jewish race race in the end though.
Jesus was a Jewish Christian after he died, but before he died he was a Jewish Jew.Braddock wrote:
So was Jesus a Jew or not going by these arguments?
If my grandfather, as a Celtic Irishman, converted to Judaism would that qualify me for Israeli citizenship under the principle of Aliyah?
Rubbish, its just a common that until recently no one married outside of Judaism and therefore it was basically incest on a very large scale (not enough vastly different genes), at some point all these people came from the same region in the world, thats the only reason they have common ancestry. Theres also the fact that people rarely converted 50+ years ago, meaning Judaism doesn't leave the family so to speak.sergeriver wrote:
My dad is Jew, my mother isn't and I don't practice any Religion. Nevertheles, by heritage, I'm half Jew. The thing you don't practice Judaism doesn't mean you are no longer a Jew, coz you have it in your blood. If not, then explain why there are so many deseases common to Ashkenazi Jews and or Jewish individual with eastern European origin. Because they go to the Temple? I don't think so.
Calling someone a Jew is offensive to Jewish people no?
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Yeah, my jew house mate used to get annoyed, he doesnt anymore. To be fair though, they call themselves Jews...
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I think I've posted this before. It's an excellent read.


What separates us as a species is very little by comparison to the rest of the animal world.


What separates us as a species is very little by comparison to the rest of the animal world.
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So Asians are just as likely to grow 6' tall as a European? Africans are just as likely to have a light skin pigment as an Eskimo?Kmarion wrote:
I think I've posted this before. It's an excellent read.
http://i30.tinypic.com/29xxnci.jpg
http://i30.tinypic.com/a3z2b4.jpg
What separates us as a species is very little by comparison to the rest of the animal world.
I think their are distint traits among different ethnic groups. So to say that we should all be human first and endowed with the same rights.
Very, very interesting question, and tbh I have no idea about the "rules" of being Jewish. I will put it on top of my list of thing to learn.
I know they value the "blood line" which is quite pointless if you look at it as just religion.
Very interesting indeed. I might have find some Jews and talk about it.
ps. I Madona a Jew just because she says she is?
I know they value the "blood line" which is quite pointless if you look at it as just religion.
Very interesting indeed. I might have find some Jews and talk about it.
ps. I Madona a Jew just because she says she is?
True Torah jews believe that God sent them in exile for some kind of punishement and jews are not allowed to have a land of their own until God forgive them.Lisik wrote:
sergeriver i don't care who was your father and who you are. According to Torah if you not follow its teachings in every aspect of their lives you are not jew. Ever heard of word goy?
"We are in exile by Divine Decree and may emerge from exile solely via Divine Redemption"
http://www.jewsagainstzionism.com/about/mission.cfm
So if according to you, only real jews are the ones following the Torah.. you must get out of israel asap because the Torah tells you that you are not suppose to have your own land until Divine Redemption.
Am i missing something here? Or maybe you only choose what is good for you in the Torah and you choose to ignore the rest?
Then if it's the case, according to yourself, you must not be a real jew for not following the teachings of the Torah.
edit: typo
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Jesus was a Rabbi.Braddock wrote:
So was Jesus a Jew or not going by these arguments?
I'm a Jew, I just converted to Judaism 9 seconds ago. Praise Allah
Jihadist.Mek-Stizzle wrote:
I'm a Jew, I just converted to Judaism 9 seconds ago. Praise Allah
Read the link and you will understand what I was saying.Lotta_Drool wrote:
So Asians are just as likely to grow 6' tall as a European? Africans are just as likely to have a light skin pigment as an Eskimo?Kmarion wrote:
I think I've posted this before. It's an excellent read.
http://i30.tinypic.com/29xxnci.jpg
http://i30.tinypic.com/a3z2b4.jpg
What separates us as a species is very little by comparison to the rest of the animal world.
I think their are distint traits among different ethnic groups. So to say that we should all be human first and endowed with the same rights.
Take the quiz while you are at it .
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