Braddock
Agitator
+916|6713|Éire
So was Jesus a Jew or not going by these arguments?
Lotta_Drool
Spit
+350|6605|Ireland
Jew can stand for a race or religion depending on what it is being used for.  Christians could do the same thing if they wanted to make up some ethnic group called Christian and claim that that ethnic group originated out of Rome.

Hitler tried to create the Ayrian Race by sprinkling pixie dust on people with blonde hair, blue eyes, and a European heritage.  We all know that made up race was much less popular than the Jewish race race in the end though.
Lotta_Drool
Spit
+350|6605|Ireland

Braddock wrote:

So was Jesus a Jew or not going by these arguments?
Jesus was a Jewish Christian after he died, but before he died he was a Jewish Jew.
Braddock
Agitator
+916|6713|Éire
If my grandfather, as a Celtic Irishman, converted to Judaism would that qualify me for Israeli citizenship under the principle of Aliyah?
Vilham
Say wat!?
+580|7189|UK

sergeriver wrote:

My dad is Jew, my mother isn't and I don't practice any Religion.  Nevertheles, by heritage, I'm half Jew.  The thing you don't practice Judaism doesn't mean you are no longer a Jew, coz you have it in your blood.  If not, then explain why there are so many deseases common to Ashkenazi Jews and or Jewish individual with eastern European origin.  Because they go to the Temple?  I don't think so.
Rubbish, its just a common that until recently no one married outside of Judaism and therefore it was basically incest on a very large scale (not enough vastly different genes), at some point all these people came from the same region in the world, thats the only reason they have common ancestry. Theres also the fact that people rarely converted 50+ years ago, meaning Judaism doesn't leave the family so to speak.
Kmar
Truth is my Bitch
+5,695|7023|132 and Bush

Calling someone a Jew is offensive to Jewish people no?
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Vilham
Say wat!?
+580|7189|UK
Yeah, my jew house mate used to get annoyed, he doesnt anymore. To be fair though, they call themselves Jews...

Last edited by Vilham (2008-06-13 11:20:01)

Kmar
Truth is my Bitch
+5,695|7023|132 and Bush

I think I've posted this before. It's an excellent read.

https://i30.tinypic.com/29xxnci.jpg

https://i30.tinypic.com/a3z2b4.jpg

What separates us as a species is very little by comparison to the rest of the animal world.
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Lotta_Drool
Spit
+350|6605|Ireland

Kmarion wrote:

I think I've posted this before. It's an excellent read.

http://i30.tinypic.com/29xxnci.jpg

http://i30.tinypic.com/a3z2b4.jpg

What separates us as a species is very little by comparison to the rest of the animal world.
So Asians are just as likely to grow 6' tall as a European?  Africans are just as likely to have a light skin pigment as an Eskimo? 

I think their are distint traits among different ethnic groups.  So to say that we should all be human first and endowed with the same rights.
zeidmaan
Member
+234|6837|Vienna

Very, very interesting question, and tbh I have no idea about the "rules" of being Jewish. I will put it on top of my list of thing to learn.

I know they value the "blood line" which is quite pointless if you look at it as just religion.
Very interesting indeed. I might have find some Jews and talk about it.


ps. I Madona a Jew just because she says she is?
AutralianChainsaw
Member
+65|6621

Lisik wrote:

sergeriver i don't care who was your father and who you are. According to Torah if you not follow its teachings in every aspect of their lives you are not jew. Ever heard of word goy?
True Torah jews believe that God sent them in exile for some kind of punishement and jews are not allowed to have a land of their own until God forgive them.

"We are in exile by Divine Decree and may emerge from exile solely via Divine Redemption"

http://www.jewsagainstzionism.com/about/mission.cfm

So if according to you, only real jews are the ones following the Torah..  you must get out of israel asap because the Torah tells you that you are not suppose to have your own land until Divine Redemption.

Am i missing something here? Or maybe you only choose what is good for you in the Torah and you choose to ignore the rest?

Then if it's the case, according to yourself, you must not be a real jew for not following the teachings of the Torah.

edit: typo

Last edited by AutralianChainsaw (2008-06-13 13:15:28)

sergeriver
Cowboy from Hell
+1,928|7180|Argentina

Braddock wrote:

So was Jesus a Jew or not going by these arguments?
Jesus was a Rabbi.
Mekstizzle
WALKER
+3,611|7043|London, England
I'm a Jew, I just converted to Judaism 9 seconds ago. Praise Allah
sergeriver
Cowboy from Hell
+1,928|7180|Argentina

Mek-Stizzle wrote:

I'm a Jew, I just converted to Judaism 9 seconds ago. Praise Allah
Jihadist.
Kmar
Truth is my Bitch
+5,695|7023|132 and Bush

Lotta_Drool wrote:

Kmarion wrote:

I think I've posted this before. It's an excellent read.

http://i30.tinypic.com/29xxnci.jpg

http://i30.tinypic.com/a3z2b4.jpg

What separates us as a species is very little by comparison to the rest of the animal world.
So Asians are just as likely to grow 6' tall as a European?  Africans are just as likely to have a light skin pigment as an Eskimo? 

I think their are distint traits among different ethnic groups.  So to say that we should all be human first and endowed with the same rights.
Read the link and you will understand what I was saying.

Take the quiz while you are at it .
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