Jenspm
penis
+1,716|7002|St. Andrews / Oslo

Yeah, so I got the Zalman 9700LED - it works great temperature wise, but it's not exactly quiet. I was stupid enough to get the LED version instead of the NT version, but they only had the LED version in stock. Therefore, in order to change the fan speed, I have to use a fan controller to adjust it, meaning I have to keep an eye on the temperatures when I do so - kinda annoying.

Also, the fan is a bitch to change out to something more quiet, and 4-pin, so I'm kinda interested in those big heatsinks where you attach 120mm fans to them.


I was looking at the Scythe Ninja, but the idiots used that amazingly stupid Intel stock fan fastening technique - I've already broken the stock heatsink attempting to use that correctly.

So my eyes have landed on a Thermalright Ultra-120, with a Noctua NF-S12-1200 pushing air in at the front, and another Noctua NF-S12-1200 working as a case exhaust fan (about 7cm away from the cooler).


Is that a good plan? Are there any better alternatives? I'd prefer the air to go front to back, as that is how my airflow is going atm, so no Gemini.
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Freezer7Pro
I don't come here a lot anymore.
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Sounds pretty good, just make sure your case can fit it.

Also, why not connect the 9700 to the mobo, and use either the BIOS fan controller for auto speeds, or SpeedFan?

Last edited by Freezer7Pro (2008-06-21 03:20:23)

The idea of any hi-fi system is to reproduce the source material as faithfully as possible, and to deliberately add distortion to everything you hear (due to amplifier deficiencies) because it sounds 'nice' is simply not high fidelity. If that is what you want to hear then there is no problem with that, but by adding so much additional material (by way of harmonics and intermodulation) you have a tailored sound system, not a hi-fi. - Rod Elliot, ESP
Jenspm
penis
+1,716|7002|St. Andrews / Oslo

Freezer7Pro wrote:

Sounds pretty good, just make sure your case can fit it.

Also, why not connect the 9700 to the mobo, and use either the BIOS fan controller for auto speeds, or SpeedFan?
It's only 3-pin, so I can't do that.

At least according to what I read, you need the 4-pin version (NT) in order to make your mobo controll the speeds according to the CPU heat. I've tried setting "Adjust CPU fan to CPU temp" in the BIOS to enabled, but it's constantly at 2200 RPM...
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Freezer7Pro
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+1,447|6467|Winland

Jenspm wrote:

Freezer7Pro wrote:

Sounds pretty good, just make sure your case can fit it.

Also, why not connect the 9700 to the mobo, and use either the BIOS fan controller for auto speeds, or SpeedFan?
It's only 3-pin, so I can't do that.

At least according to what I read, you need the 4-pin version (NT) in order to make your mobo controll the speeds according to the CPU heat. I've tried setting "Adjust CPU fan to CPU temp" in the BIOS to enabled, but it's constantly at 2200 RPM...
Then you're doing it wrong. Try with SpeedFan. SpeedFan is controlling my media PC's 3-pin fan, and connector according to CPU temp. You might also try finding and changing the temp it's trying to maintain. If it's set to 30, of course it's on 100%.

Last edited by Freezer7Pro (2008-06-21 03:41:14)

The idea of any hi-fi system is to reproduce the source material as faithfully as possible, and to deliberately add distortion to everything you hear (due to amplifier deficiencies) because it sounds 'nice' is simply not high fidelity. If that is what you want to hear then there is no problem with that, but by adding so much additional material (by way of harmonics and intermodulation) you have a tailored sound system, not a hi-fi. - Rod Elliot, ESP
Jenspm
penis
+1,716|7002|St. Andrews / Oslo

should my screen looks like this?

https://i159.photobucket.com/albums/t121/JohnJCash/ExampleModerateLoad.jpg



Because mine is like this:

Fan1
Fan2
Fan3
Fan4

Speed1
Speed2
Speed3



No, there isn't a Speed 4. My CPU is Fan 4.

Last edited by Jenspm (2008-06-21 03:51:20)

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.Sup
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+2,646|6723|The Twilight Zone
My 9700 with blue leds is very quiet.
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Freezer7Pro
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+1,447|6467|Winland

Jenspm wrote:

should my screen looks like this?

http://i159.photobucket.com/albums/t121 … teLoad.jpg



Because mine is like this:

Fan1
Fan2
Fan3
Fan4

Speed1
Speed2
Speed3



No, there isn't a Speed 4. My CPU is Fan 4.
Try changing different speeds until you find your CPU fan. Then find out which is your CPU temp. Go to configure, set desired and warning temps for that one to what you want, un-tick the CPU fan speed from all other temps. Go to speeds, set minimum and maximum values for the CPU fan (I recommend 60-85, if your temps allow), tick "Automatically variated", unless it already is, press OK, and tick "Automatic fan speed". Done.
The idea of any hi-fi system is to reproduce the source material as faithfully as possible, and to deliberately add distortion to everything you hear (due to amplifier deficiencies) because it sounds 'nice' is simply not high fidelity. If that is what you want to hear then there is no problem with that, but by adding so much additional material (by way of harmonics and intermodulation) you have a tailored sound system, not a hi-fi. - Rod Elliot, ESP
Jenspm
penis
+1,716|7002|St. Andrews / Oslo

Freezer7Pro wrote:

Jenspm wrote:

should my screen looks like this?

http://i159.photobucket.com/albums/t121 … teLoad.jpg



Because mine is like this:

Fan1
Fan2
Fan3
Fan4

Speed1
Speed2
Speed3



No, there isn't a Speed 4. My CPU is Fan 4.
Try changing different speeds until you find your CPU fan. Then find out which is your CPU temp. Go to configure, set desired and warning temps for that one to what you want, un-tick the CPU fan speed from all other temps. Go to speeds, set minimum and maximum values for the CPU fan (I recommend 60-85, if your temps allow), tick "Automatically variated", unless it already is, press OK, and tick "Automatic fan speed". Done.
that's the problem - none of the speeds change my CPU fan speed.
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DUnlimited
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+1,160|6733|cuntshitlake

Put the CPU fan in another connector and disable CPU fan speed warning in bios.
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Freezer7Pro
I don't come here a lot anymore.
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Jenspm wrote:

Freezer7Pro wrote:

Jenspm wrote:

should my screen looks like this?

http://i159.photobucket.com/albums/t121 … teLoad.jpg



Because mine is like this:

Fan1
Fan2
Fan3
Fan4

Speed1
Speed2
Speed3



No, there isn't a Speed 4. My CPU is Fan 4.
Try changing different speeds until you find your CPU fan. Then find out which is your CPU temp. Go to configure, set desired and warning temps for that one to what you want, un-tick the CPU fan speed from all other temps. Go to speeds, set minimum and maximum values for the CPU fan (I recommend 60-85, if your temps allow), tick "Automatically variated", unless it already is, press OK, and tick "Automatic fan speed". Done.
that's the problem - none of the speeds change my CPU fan speed.
Tried connecting the CPU fan to the mobo instead of the fan controller?

Also, try disabling the speed control in BIOS.
The idea of any hi-fi system is to reproduce the source material as faithfully as possible, and to deliberately add distortion to everything you hear (due to amplifier deficiencies) because it sounds 'nice' is simply not high fidelity. If that is what you want to hear then there is no problem with that, but by adding so much additional material (by way of harmonics and intermodulation) you have a tailored sound system, not a hi-fi. - Rod Elliot, ESP
TheEternalPessimist
Wibble
+412|6890|Mhz

What clock speeds are you running at?
CrazeD
Member
+368|6942|Maine
How can you think a 9700 is loud? I have the 9500, which has a smaller fan (usually smaller fan=louder) and mine is super quiet...

You must by picky
aimless
Member
+166|6394|Texas

Freezer7Pro wrote:

Jenspm wrote:

Freezer7Pro wrote:


Try changing different speeds until you find your CPU fan. Then find out which is your CPU temp. Go to configure, set desired and warning temps for that one to what you want, un-tick the CPU fan speed from all other temps. Go to speeds, set minimum and maximum values for the CPU fan (I recommend 60-85, if your temps allow), tick "Automatically variated", unless it already is, press OK, and tick "Automatic fan speed". Done.
that's the problem - none of the speeds change my CPU fan speed.
Tried connecting the CPU fan to the mobo instead of the fan controller?

Also, try disabling the speed control in BIOS.
Another thing you can try is go to Configure > Advanced > Select the first drop down item, it should give you a list of stuff > Change the PWM Modes all to "Software Controlled".
Jenspm
penis
+1,716|7002|St. Andrews / Oslo

CrazeD wrote:

How can you think a 9700 is loud? I have the 9500, which has a smaller fan (usually smaller fan=louder) and mine is super quiet...

You must by picky
yeah, I'm working on getting a quiet system now.

Unplugged the intake fan because it wasn't doing much and replacing the exhaust fan with a Noctua so it can help the 9700 (thus letting the 9700 run at a lower speed, thus making it quiet).
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**LiLp-DeFiNeD
Banned
+54|6424|Vancouver, BC, Canada
*hasn't read the thread*

Get a electrothermo-thing.

Forgot what they call em, but yeah, it's like $50 you give it 5V and it'll freeze ur CPU. Did I mention it's silent?
Jenspm
penis
+1,716|7002|St. Andrews / Oslo

huh?


link to info on such a thing?
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TheEternalPessimist
Wibble
+412|6890|Mhz

Jenspm wrote:

huh?


link to info on such a thing?
I think he's means a Peltier (or TEC as it's also known) cooler and  they really aren't all that great, and they're about £250.

Just buy the ultra-120 extreme and run it with no fan, you'll be fine with anything up to 3.5Ghz.

EDIT: Like one of these

http://www.frozencpu.com/cat/l2/g30/c105/list/p1/Liquid_Cooling-Peltier_Coolers_TEC_Coldplates.html wrote:

Peltier coolers, also known as thermoelectric coolers (TEC) consist of the peltier element itself and a powerful heatsink/fan combination to cool the TEC. TEC coolers have two wires which connect to a power source in your pc case, when voltage is applied to those wires, a temperature difference across the two sides of the TEC is achieved. One side is hot and the other side is cool. You place the TEC between the CPU/GPU and the heatsink with an appropriate thermal interface material (thermal grease).

We have several complete TEC kits like CoolIT Systems Freezone and Swiftech's H20 series which require a lot less knowledge to install then a DIY TEC cooler solution.

Last edited by TheEternalPessimist (2008-06-21 15:46:26)

**LiLp-DeFiNeD
Banned
+54|6424|Vancouver, BC, Canada
YEAH, Peltier, in the 2.5 seconds that Firefox was scrolling, I remembered, then I saw your thread.

I saw an Instructible on hacking a peltier out of cooler to make a single bootle coke cooler.
And someone in the comments mentioned cooling CPU's with em

I never knew they were $400 tho, you could prolly make one for $50 with a peltier from eBay and your old heatsink
max
Vela Incident
+1,652|6837|NYC / Hamburg

**LiLp-DeFiNeD wrote:

YEAH, Peltier, in the 2.5 seconds that Firefox was scrolling, I remembered, then I saw your thread.

I saw an Instructible on hacking a peltier out of cooler to make a single bootle coke cooler.
And someone in the comments mentioned cooling CPU's with em

I never knew they were $400 tho, you could prolly make one for $50 with a peltier from eBay and your old heatsink
with the low efficiency of TECs you'll not only need the expensive TEC, but also a good water cooling setup. A normal HSF will be way underpowered
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