Braddock
Agitator
+916|6712|Éire
It is often claimed that the majority of serial killers are white males and if you look through the list of all convicted serial killers in the United States there is a noticeable majority of white men and very few African Americans. What is it about white America that drives white men to rape, brutally kill and sometimes even eat other members of society?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_se … of_America
Andoura
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jsnipy
...
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Its in the white man's blood, its genetic.
Agent_Dung_Bomb
Member
+302|7158|Salt Lake City

I don't know, but the damn dog keeps telling me to kill people!
m3thod
All kiiiiiiiiinds of gainz
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Cos when the white man flips out he doesn't go small scale like drive bys he goes all out Ted Bundy style declaring war here, forcing slaves there, colonising this and that ......and don't you forget the manufacturing AIDS things.

White folk need to chill the fuck out.  Seriously.

Last edited by m3thod (2008-06-23 14:02:58)

Blackbelts are just whitebelts who have never quit.
CaptainSpaulding71
Member
+119|6779|CA, USA
<joke>  maybe it's because other races get caught before they kill what we consider to be mass-murderer amounts of people </joke>

Braddock:  in all seriousness, are there any theories as to why?

also, could it be that certain countries have less effective police forces with which to catch these people?  that is, some countries are likely under reporting the numbers because they are not as advanced in police detective work as others.

wow...!  iraq doesn't have any serial killers.  Neither does Syria, saudi arabia, or North Korea

Last edited by CaptainSpaulding71 (2008-06-23 14:07:09)

TrollmeaT
Aspiring Objectivist
+492|7094|Colorado
Once again this has nothing to do with race. These are individuals making their own choices. The parents are to blame for not teaching them to an extent, but ultimately they made the decision to do the crime.

Part of it in my opinion is that they didn't have online shooters back then, so there was no release for the homicidal tendencies other than the real thing of course. As they just proved in a study I dont have the link to, that video games especially violent ones calm the person while playing.

Last edited by TrollmeaT (2008-06-23 14:04:41)

m3thod
All kiiiiiiiiinds of gainz
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Well the stats don't lie.

Approximately 9/10 serial killers are white males between the ages of 20 and 35, and cultural clichés present him as figures with a history of child abuse (possibly an over-possessive mother), petty crime, and a sexual motivation that underlies their murders. Far from being the manifestations of insanity, or irrational thought, serial killings are often patterned according to specific characteristics or conventions that grant the crimes a distinctive inherent logic.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/collective/A4526129
Blackbelts are just whitebelts who have never quit.
CaptainSpaulding71
Member
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m3thod wrote:

Well the stats don't lie.

Approximately 9/10 serial killers are white males between the ages of 20 and 35, and cultural clichés present him as figures with a history of child abuse (possibly an over-possessive mother), petty crime, and a sexual motivation that underlies their murders. Far from being the manifestations of insanity, or irrational thought, serial killings are often patterned according to specific characteristics or conventions that grant the crimes a distinctive inherent logic.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/collective/A4526129
thanks!  +1

i'm lucky i'm 37.   

Last edited by CaptainSpaulding71 (2008-06-23 14:10:57)

Braddock
Agitator
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CaptainSpaulding71 wrote:

m3thod wrote:

Well the stats don't lie.

Approximately 9/10 serial killers are white males between the ages of 20 and 35, and cultural clichés present him as figures with a history of child abuse (possibly an over-possessive mother), petty crime, and a sexual motivation that underlies their murders. Far from being the manifestations of insanity, or irrational thought, serial killings are often patterned according to specific characteristics or conventions that grant the crimes a distinctive inherent logic.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/collective/A4526129
thanks!  +1

i'm lucky i'm 37.   
Obviously this thread was started to make a point in relation to the thread about black criminals but it is quite interesting how the statistics play out. Lowing would argue that these people should have taken personal responsibility for their own lives, despite what abuse they might have suffered or how overbearing their mothers were! My main question would be why are so many people so quick to right off an entire race on the back of one set of statistics while negating the importance of a significant trend in another set of statistics when it reflects poorly on another race?
m3thod
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Some more stats to chew over

    *

      The USA has 76% of the worlds serial killers.
    *

      Europe in second, has 17%.  England has produced 28% of the European total; Germany produces 27%, and France produces 13%.

    * California leads in the US with the most Serial Homicide cases that have occured.  Texas, New York, Illinois, and Florida follow shortly behind.

    * Maine has the lowest occurence of serial murders - none.  Hawaii, Montana, North Dakota, Delaware, and Vermont each have had only one case of a serial murder.

    *

      84% of American killers are caucasian.
    *

      16% are black.
    *

      Men make up at least 90% of the world wide total of serial killers.
    *

      65% of victims are female.
    *

      89% of victims are white.
    *

      44% of all killers start in their twenties.
    *

      26% start in their teens.
    * 24% start in their thirties.

    * Out of all the killers, 86% are heterosexual.

No idea about the legitmacy of the source: http://www.fortunecity.com/roswell/stre … _stats.htm

ps

if i ever move to the US ima gonna live in Maine.

Last edited by m3thod (2008-06-23 14:27:31)

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IRONCHEF
Member
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Perhaps we're more ambitious killers than blacks, mexicans, and other races/colors.  I believe we may also be leading in child sexual crimes and arson too, sadly.  I think it's safe to say that white criminals do the more heinous stuff...but I could be wrong.

m3thod wrote:

84% of American killers are caucasian.
    *

      16% are black.
    *
I have a beef with this statistic.  It would be fair (in light of the other thread where KJ posted similar numbers) to say what the % of the US population is black, and the % which is white.  Then it'd likely show that the majority of homicides per race are committed by blacks...which it is based on FBI UCR.  I just saw those stats in a AJ class I had.

Last edited by IRONCHEF (2008-06-23 14:32:20)

HurricaИe
Banned
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Not sure if this was a knock at my thread or not; but I really do wonder why whites are usually the perpetrators of mass crime.

I've always thought that a bulk of smaller crime (mugging, etc) is done by minorities while the really sick psycho shit is done by white guys with crazy beards or mad personalities.

Just look at Kasczynski, Bundy, McVeigh, Manson. All white.
m3thod
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IRONCHEF wrote:

Perhaps we're more ambitious killers than blacks, mexicans, and other races/colors.  I believe we may also be leading in child sexual crimes and arson too, sadly.  I think it's safe to say that white criminals do the more heinous stuff...but I could be wrong.
That reminds me of another statisics i remember reading...white men and fire!

An examination of arson arrests by race indicated that 76.8 percent of arson arrestees were white, 21.5 percent were black, and 1.7 percent were of other races.

Source: http://www.fbi.gov/ucr/cius_02/html/web … son11.html
Blackbelts are just whitebelts who have never quit.
Braddock
Agitator
+916|6712|Éire

IRONCHEF wrote:

Perhaps we're more ambitious killers than blacks, mexicans, and other races/colors.  I believe we may also be leading in child sexual crimes and arson too, sadly.  I think it's safe to say that white criminals do the more heinous stuff...but I could be wrong.

m3thod wrote:

84% of American killers are caucasian.
    *

      16% are black.
    *
I have a beef with this statistic.  It would be fair (in light of the other thread where KJ posted similar numbers) to say what the % of the US population is black, and the % which is white.  Then it'd likely show that the majority of homicides per race are committed by blacks...which it is based on FBI UCR.  I just saw those stats in a AJ class I had.
Maybe it's because black guys get gunned down just for going for their wallet never mind going on a killing spree!
Braddock
Agitator
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HurricaИe wrote:

I've always thought that a bulk of smaller crime (mugging, etc) is done by minorities while the really sick psycho shit is done by white guys with crazy beards or mad personalities.
Hey! I have a crazy beard.
CaptainSpaulding71
Member
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i mentioned this before but nobody commented:

also, could it be that certain countries have less effective police forces with which to catch these people?  that is, some countries are likely under reporting the numbers because they are not as advanced in police detective work as others.
Braddock
Agitator
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CaptainSpaulding71 wrote:

i mentioned this before but nobody commented:

also, could it be that certain countries have less effective police forces with which to catch these people?  that is, some countries are likely under reporting the numbers because they are not as advanced in police detective work as others.
Well in Ireland there have been a number of famous disappearances over the years and many people have theories about it being the work of a serial killer, some people (ex-detective's books etc.) reckon the cops even have an idea who it might be but have never been able to pin it on them...two people from the travelling community supposedly. Lol, wouldn't that be a great statistic, one serial killer...from the travelling community, a 100% record!
blademaster
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wow...!  iraq doesn't have any serial killers.  Neither does Syria, saudi arabia, or North Korea

hahaha yea I find that hard to believe ehhehe I think murder is considered normal in their countries as well as cutting someones arm off so they arent reported hehehe
Masques
Black Panzer Party
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Braddock wrote:

My main question would be why are so many people so quick to right off an entire race on the back of one set of statistics while negating the importance of a significant trend in another set of statistics when it reflects poorly on another race?
I don't recall what the psychological term is, but people have the tendency to view bad behaviour of members of a group they belong to as simply individuals that have committed a crime. Bad behaviour of members of another group tends to reinforce preexisting perceptions of that group.

While one will say that blacks/whites/hispanics/etc. (if they are the other) are more criminal an individual person who is white/black/hispanic/etc. (if they are not the other) is seen as just a criminal.

We all do it to some degree (some are better at recognizing their biases), but I would guess that since this forum is probably mostly white it becomes an issue of black criminality in general and not "why are most serial killers white males" or "why are most arsonists or poisoners white".
............................................

As to the directed topic of why most white males (in the US at least) are serial killers, I'd say that 90% of it has to relate to power. Most serial killers tend to be from a powerful group and seek targets of opportunity. Look for the more powerful groups in any country (in terms of demographics) and that is the population from which most (though certainly not all) serial killers will emerge. They will usually be men and will be from the most numerous or most dominant group.

Victims will usually be the most vulnerable members of the society or those will the least power (literally and figuratively); children, prostitutes, the homeless, mentally ill, women, homosexuals, minorities, the elderly, etc.
sergeriver
Cowboy from Hell
+1,928|7179|Argentina
Rap.
Thorax
Banned
+77|6226
Because white people are the only race smart enough to commit a crime and get away with it multiple times.  When we go out, we go ALL OUT, none of this petty liquor store bullshit.
God Save the Queen
Banned
+628|6765|tropical regions of london
emos?

thats all a serial killer is. 

"I hate the world, theyre gonna pay for the pain I feel!"

Thorax wrote:

Because white people are the only race smart enough to commit a crime and get away with it multiple times.  When we go out, we go ALL OUT, none of this petty liquor store bullshit.
so Im inferior?


get the fuck outta here

Last edited by God Save the Queen (2008-06-23 17:27:11)

Mekstizzle
WALKER
+3,611|7043|London, England

God Save the Queen wrote:

emos?

thats all a serial killer is. 

"I hate the world, theyre gonna pay for the pain I feel!"
Reminded me that David.P hasn't posted for abit
sergeriver
Cowboy from Hell
+1,928|7179|Argentina

Mek-Stizzle wrote:

God Save the Queen wrote:

emos?

thats all a serial killer is. 

"I hate the world, theyre gonna pay for the pain I feel!"
Reminded me that David.P hasn't posted for abit
He's been busy trying to contact Valve to tell them how they fucked TF2.

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