H3RB4L ABU53
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I have a couple of questions maybe someone could answer them please:

On the server browser, it shows I have, say 20 ping on different servers, but some have a bar on the left showing different colours, most german servers are green, most french are orange, and most in general are red- but when I join, I don't see any difference in connection or anything (I wouldn't lag on a server with a red bar, or a green one) I've asked lots of people in game and no one seems to know so I'm just curious as to what it means.

2nd question if anyone knows: does router firmware affect ping? If so why? I am using a Linksys WRT54G (v4) and was using DD-WRT firmware (the previous version to today's) and it was running fine, on any server in BF2 that I joined (that showed a ping below 100 on the server browser) I would guarantee a maximum of 40 ping in-game, usually 20-30 ping is what I would get. I looked on the DD-WRT site and found a newer edition of the firmware I was using so I installed it (correctly) as obviously if a newer version is out I wanted to see if there were any new features, but now, with it installed I get the same ping (about 20-40 in all games that I choose) but now it spikes up to about 300 quite often for about 30 seconds, then calms back down to the 30ish that I normally get. I am asking this in case anyone knows, as none of the settings in my router seem different to the previous firmware version, I didn't know if any options affected the ping (I thought it was just your internet connection) I haven't gone back to using the old version yet, as it takes me a lot of time to re-install, and go through the setup again, and for all I know, I could still have the same problem, so if anyone knows a possible reason to why the ping is randomly jumping up to about 300 in every server I join I would like to know:)

1 more (lol): My pc specs are-

Athlon 64 3000+ oc'd to 2.5GHz
MSI 8600GT oc'd- 693 core (linked to shaders) and 900 (1800) memory
Raptor 74GB
2GB random manufactuer cheap ram
400W PSU

Regardless of what settings I use, lowest or higest (I am using everything high, 2x AA, but dynamic shadows and dynamic light are set to low)
I get roughly 80-100 fps on any map, pretty much 100 on Karkand, at least 80 on Dragon Valley, Fu She Pass etc but even though these are good framerates especially for my spec pc, I get a lot of stuttering when I enter a new area of a map e.g. if I am on Dragon Valley and take off in a chopper from the US Carrier, it would freeze for about 2 seconds when I get to Temple for example (enough for a possible crash) then go smoothly again, but once I have flown the whole map, the whole lot goes smoothly for the rest of the game- I didn't know wether it's my CPU (I know the GPU isn't the best) but the CPU is definately showing it's age, or my RAM?
The weird thing is, I am currently using Vsync now, and forcing triple buffering using Rivatuner's D3D overrider, and everything is buttery smooth without any of the lock ups, but my problem wasn't tearing? I did get tearing when I was to fly a jet, an that has gone, but vsync seems to have solved the lock ups as well (which I didn't think it was supposed to do) you are probably wondering why I am asking this then, it is because when vsync and triple buffering is enabled (75hz refresh rate) I get very bad mouse lag, but super smooth gameplay (75fps all the time)- so they are as bad as each other really. I have tried in the control panel setting the max pre rendered frames from 3 to 1, and it has helped a great deal (I read to avoid setting it to 0) but I still sometimes get it. I am just trying to find an answer because surely not EVERY BF2 player either has to put up with tearing/stuttering, or mouse lag? Or do they? lol sorry I really am not that good at explaining things but if anyone can help on any of my questions I'd be grateful, sorry for a long(ish) post but thanks again for any replies:)
H3RB4L ABU53
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Sorry I should have posted this in the help section lol but too late now
Oh and about the router question, if I reboot the router it seems fine, but only for about half an hour, then I get the random high pings again

Last edited by H3RB4L ABU53 (2008-06-28 10:33:33)

MajorHoulahan_MASH
Member
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With the pc specs you posted,  the advised settings would be medium at best, if you want a smooth/competitive performance in-game.

2,5 Ghz is a bit on the slow side, 2 GB RAM is quite ok.
Dont know about the 8600 GT though ( I have ATI Radeon 600 XT, 3,6 Ghz and 2 GB Ram ).

I would turn Anti-Aliasing (AA) completely off, and see if that affects the stuttering; I always played with AA off , because it caused  me stuttering too, especially on full 64 servers.

For more information take a look at this BF2 Tweak Guide:
http://www.tweakguides.com/BF2_1.html

Last edited by MajorHoulahan_MASH (2008-06-28 12:32:28)

H3RB4L ABU53
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Hi thanks for the reply, I have tried it 1280x1024 all lowest settings no AA and it still stutters without vsync, but with vsync on and all high with 2xAA I get no stutter at all. But a bit of mouse lag. I would rather have 2xAA on as it looks bad without, but even though I've tried it before, I will try it with AA off again just to double check, but it's confused me that I can run it all high with AA with vsync on, with no slowdown, but without vsync I can't even run on low/no AA without stutter
steelie34
pub hero!
+603|6640|the land of bourbon
wow thats a wall of text anyway, as far as your router firmware is concerned, you should stick with the older version, especially if the problem with the ping spike goes away.  generally, the coders who put new features into various software may not take into account things like online gaming, where consistency of packets is more important than quality of packets.  alot of routers that try to increase qaulity services and may actually impact your gaming performance in a negative way.  i usually stick to the "aint broke dont fix it" saying.
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Jrdeacs
Member
+22|6158

H3RB4L ABU53 wrote:

Sorry I should have posted this in the help section lol but too late now
Oh and about the router question, if I reboot the router it seems fine, but only for about half an hour, then I get the random high pings again
Copy all of it and then make the new 1 then delete this one
MrAnderson
Ghost Town T90/Apache Whore
+99|6258|Aberdeen, Scotland
The bars on the server list show the server workload I believe, so a red bar could indicate poor performance for everyone on the server, but I've never paid much attention to them.
H3RB4L ABU53
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Hi thanks I thought it maybe something to do with bandwidth or something, it doesn't seem to affect my performance as far as I know so it doesn't really matter I was just curious, or maybe it's the quality of the connection? Thanks for the replies, I might just try going back to the original Linksys firmware for the router, as I only wanted the DD-WRT for the Qos feature (which I don't use now anyway), I might upgrade my router as the WRT54G is getting old now, does anyone know if there are any router that give good performance for gaming? I know they all pretty much do the same thing but I just wondered if there was a well known one that people like for gaming with?

P.S sorry for the walls of text (I get it all the time lol) I'm still getting the hang of using paragraphs, I remember when I was at school I did an english exam about paragraphs, and I didn't use any at all lol
H3RB4L ABU53
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I just noticed that it's only the servers with the Linux sign and the Linux 64 sign that have green bars, and I read that they don't have a "verification" so they are meant to load quicker, maybe that has something to do with it

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