Naturn
Deeds, not words.
+311|6875|Greenwood, IN
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What do you guys think?

I already everything else not listed.  Also do you guys think the 8800GT can hold up for a while longer before needing upgraded?
.Sup
be nice
+2,646|6723|The Twilight Zone
I'd avoid P45. What OC do you want to reach with that E8500? Get something better than Freezer 7 Pro. It was good but not good enough for a C2D. Stick with 8800GT if its 512MB.

Last edited by .Sup (2008-07-01 15:35:25)

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Naturn
Deeds, not words.
+311|6875|Greenwood, IN
Yes its the 512 version but i'm only wanting to overclock a little bit not a whole lot.  Mabey 3.5Ghz ish?
.Sup
be nice
+2,646|6723|The Twilight Zone

Naturn wrote:

Yes its the 512 version but i'm only wanting to overclock a little bit not a whole lot.  Mabey 3.5Ghz ish?
Then I don't see the point getting a E8500, really.
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Freezer7Pro
I don't come here a lot anymore.
+1,447|6467|Winland

.Sup wrote:

Naturn wrote:

Yes its the 512 version but i'm only wanting to overclock a little bit not a whole lot.  Mabey 3.5Ghz ish?
Then I don't see the point getting a E8500, really.
There is no point getting an E8500, at all. It costs way more than an E8400, but delivers virtually the same performance at both stock and oc. .5 multiplier is not worth $60.
The idea of any hi-fi system is to reproduce the source material as faithfully as possible, and to deliberately add distortion to everything you hear (due to amplifier deficiencies) because it sounds 'nice' is simply not high fidelity. If that is what you want to hear then there is no problem with that, but by adding so much additional material (by way of harmonics and intermodulation) you have a tailored sound system, not a hi-fi. - Rod Elliot, ESP
Naturn
Deeds, not words.
+311|6875|Greenwood, IN

.Sup wrote:

Naturn wrote:

Yes its the 512 version but i'm only wanting to overclock a little bit not a whole lot.  Mabey 3.5Ghz ish?
Then I don't see the point getting a E8500, really.
What why not?  I just want something that will last a while.  I bought this AMD CPU because it was cheap and powerful.  But, I want to go for something that will last a while.

Well to be honest I have a few questions.  I understand how to overclock and AMD CPU but what about an Intel?

Do I lower the DDR speed and bump the FSB up till my DDR speed matches what it was?  Also, the motherboard is the only piece of hardware that i'm not sure about.  I have 4GBs of RAM, 8800GT, 500HDD, and a 600W PSU.

Edit: Oh ok so I got with the 8400 and just overclock up too 3.5Ghz?

Last edited by Naturn (2008-07-01 15:51:35)

.Sup
be nice
+2,646|6723|The Twilight Zone

Freezer7Pro wrote:

.Sup wrote:

Naturn wrote:

Yes its the 512 version but i'm only wanting to overclock a little bit not a whole lot.  Mabey 3.5Ghz ish?
Then I don't see the point getting a E8500, really.
There is no point getting an E8500, at all. It costs way more than an E8400, but delivers virtually the same performance at both stock and oc. .5 multiplier is not worth $60.
I agree, thats why I got a E8400 instead of E8500.
@Naturn-You get an E8500 if you want to OC to 4.5 not 3.5. Get an E2xxx C2D.
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DUnlimited
got any popo lolo intersting?
+1,160|6733|cuntshitlake

.Sup wrote:

Freezer7Pro wrote:

.Sup wrote:


Then I don't see the point getting a E8500, really.
There is no point getting an E8500, at all. It costs way more than an E8400, but delivers virtually the same performance at both stock and oc. .5 multiplier is not worth $60.
I agree, thats why I got a E8400 instead of E8500.
@Naturn-You get an E8500 if you want to OC to 4.5 not 3.5. Get an E2xxx C2D.
E7200.
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Naturn
Deeds, not words.
+311|6875|Greenwood, IN
I may end of going with AMD if they release their K10.5 but will we see.  I'm hoping to upgrade around Oct. - Nov. time frame.  Saving up some money.
Bell
Frosties > Cornflakes
+362|6819|UK

.Sup wrote:

I'd avoid P45.
Not that I would normally question the great man that is sup, but may I ask why?

Martyn
DUnlimited
got any popo lolo intersting?
+1,160|6733|cuntshitlake

Bell wrote:

.Sup wrote:

I'd avoid P45.
Not that I would normally question the great man that is sup, but may I ask why?

Martyn
x8 CF.
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Naturn
Deeds, not words.
+311|6875|Greenwood, IN
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Better guys?

You guys never did tell me if I was right on how to over clock an Intel.
m3thod
All kiiiiiiiiinds of gainz
+2,197|6941|UK
Save your money.
Blackbelts are just whitebelts who have never quit.
Bell
Frosties > Cornflakes
+362|6819|UK

DeathUnlimited wrote:

Bell wrote:

.Sup wrote:

I'd avoid P45.
Not that I would normally question the great man that is sup, but may I ask why?

Martyn
x8 CF.
I thought that is what it would be.

1.  If he is using an Nvidia card that doesnt really matter.

2.  x8 x8 in CF on a P45 doesnt hit the same bottleneck that P35 chipsets do.  X8 PCI 2.0 wont limit the current crop of graphics cards in terms of bandwith like x8 on PCI 1.1.  As cards get quicker the extra bandwith availble on X38/48 will pay dividence but by then you would of probably moved onto a new mobo (what with Nehalm on the way and its new socket).

With that said though, I did see a crossfire benchmark with the ATi 4850 on a P45 which didnt look great.

Certainly anyone who buys an X38/48 board at the moment with the mind of running an Nvidia card is being a bit silly with there money imo.  I see no need for it.

Martyn

Last edited by Bell (2008-07-01 17:02:11)

DUnlimited
got any popo lolo intersting?
+1,160|6733|cuntshitlake

Bell wrote:

DeathUnlimited wrote:

Bell wrote:


Not that I would normally question the great man that is sup, but may I ask why?

Martyn
x8 CF.
I thought that is what it would be.

1.  If he is using an Nvidia card that doesnt really matter.

2.  x8 x8 in CF on a P45 doesnt hit the same bottleneck that P35 chipsets do.  X8 PCI 2.0 wont limit the current crop of graphics cards in terms of bandwith like x8 on PCI 1.1.  As cards get quicker the extra bandwith availble on X38/48 will pay dividence but by then you would of probably moved onto a new mobo (what with Nehalm on the way and its new socket).

With that said though, I did see a crossfire benchmark with the ATi 4850 on a P45 which didnt look great.

Certainly anyone who buys an X38/48 board at the moment with the mind of running an Nvidia card is being a bit silly with there money imo.  I see no need for it.

Martyn
I only pointed out what .Sup probably meant too :D
I see no reason not to go P45 in this case.

However to continue debating, x8 is limiting quite a bit with new cards and hingh demanding games. Using 3870's the difference is already over 20% in cod4 (read that somewhere, will give source if I find it). Asus P5E x38 is the way to go for CF :P
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Naturn
Deeds, not words.
+311|6875|Greenwood, IN
As I was just talking to death AMD is coming out with some new CPUs this fall including some revised K8 with higher clock speeds and larger cache.(Like 6400 X2 in 65nm process.)  So i'm going to take a look at those as well.  But what really bugs me though is the lack of nVidia chipsets for AMD.
ceslayer23
IN YOUR MIRROR
+142|6630|CLOSER THAN I APPEAR

Naturn wrote:

As I was just talking to death AMD is coming out with some new CPUs this fall including some revised K8 with higher clock speeds and larger cache.(Like 6400 X2 in 65nm process.)  So i'm going to take a look at those as well.  But what really bugs me though is the lack of nVidia chipsets for AMD.
Because AMD owns ATI, not nvidia
GCFC
Davide Santon
+45|6199|NY/CT

ceslayer23 wrote:

Naturn wrote:

But what really bugs me though is the lack of nVidia chipsets for AMD.
Because AMD owns ATI, not nvidia
sorry, but this was funny XD

Last edited by GCFC (2008-07-01 18:35:26)

Naturn
Deeds, not words.
+311|6875|Greenwood, IN

ceslayer23 wrote:

Naturn wrote:

As I was just talking to death AMD is coming out with some new CPUs this fall including some revised K8 with higher clock speeds and larger cache.(Like 6400 X2 in 65nm process.)  So i'm going to take a look at those as well.  But what really bugs me though is the lack of nVidia chipsets for AMD.
Because AMD owns ATI, not nvidia
Kind of childish don't you think?  nVidia has made chipsets for their Phenom line up but I don't know when the next set is suppose to be released.

Edit: http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductLi … rder=PRICE

Last edited by Naturn (2008-07-01 18:43:59)

Wallpaper
+303|6263|The pool
A Q6600 wouldnt be bad either. I hear they OC like mad
Naturn
Deeds, not words.
+311|6875|Greenwood, IN
Well I was thinking of getting a quad core but it would have to be a real one.  When AMD releases their K10.5 chips i'll take a look at them.  The Shanghai set are 45nm process running @ 3GHz or higher.  AMD already has their 45nm info up on their site along with shots of their dies.
G-NOT_(:0)
Banned
+19|6269
What is this computer meant for?

I know for gaming

but are you into photoshop, working on multiple programs at once, or just gaming and blogging?
Naturn
Deeds, not words.
+311|6875|Greenwood, IN
I do a lot of stuff.  Like right now i'm compressing a video to be uploaded to xfire video database.  I will be learning photoshop soon too.  But videos and gaming are my main stuff.
Scorpion0x17
can detect anyone's visible post count...
+691|7035|Cambridge (UK)

Naturn wrote:

I may end of going with AMD if they release their K10.5 but will we see.  I'm hoping to upgrade around Oct. - Nov. time frame.  Saving up some money.
If you're not buying for another 4 months, I would hold off even looking at stuff - I know, I know, I can never resist either - but, a lot can happen in 4 months.
.Sup
be nice
+2,646|6723|The Twilight Zone

Bell wrote:

DeathUnlimited wrote:

Bell wrote:

Not that I would normally question the great man that is sup, but may I ask why?

Martyn
x8 CF.
I thought that is what it would be.

1.  If he is using an Nvidia card that doesnt really matter.

2.  x8 x8 in CF on a P45 doesnt hit the same bottleneck that P35 chipsets do.  X8 PCI 2.0 wont limit the current crop of graphics cards in terms of bandwith like x8 on PCI 1.1.  As cards get quicker the extra bandwith availble on X38/48 will pay dividence but by then you would of probably moved onto a new mobo (what with Nehalm on the way and its new socket).

With that said though, I did see a crossfire benchmark with the ATi 4850 on a P45 which didnt look great.

Certainly anyone who buys an X38/48 board at the moment with the mind of running an Nvidia card is being a bit silly with there money imo.  I see no need for it.

Martyn
I have 8800GT on X38 but will soon to upgrade to 2x4870 or an X2. I don't believe X2 will have two times 1 gig of RAM therefore I'll have to wait for 48701GBs. Upgradeable...

Last edited by .Sup (2008-07-02 00:43:27)

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