Arnie_Ze_Austrian
Member
+55|6401
What Peter said.  This works nicely against average J-10 pilots on pubs.  It doesn't work so well against good pilots because they will see you coming   I always use it on them when they're lining up a strafing run or trying to down a chopper.

Last edited by Arnie_Ze_Austrian (2008-07-19 08:39:01)

G.Cronin
ĆѳŗėFцśюn
+24|6450|Contae Chorcaí | Éire
you should have used cannon aswell as firing the rockets and again, what peter said. Theres no way that works on ppl like me jking
DaMaster
Member
+7|6084|USA, WV

Peter wrote:

Just use the lock on glitch tbh.
Haven't played bf2 in months but it goes something like: get behind them in bomb view then quickly switch to missiles and let 4 go. First will miss rest hit, unless the deploy flares crazy early.
The OP said that the person never even deployed flairs, even so, that's not the point. The point is that the J-10 has a very small hit box and a lot of missiles miss it. Where as the F-15 (or what ever it is) has a over sized hit box and nearly every missile hits.
RDMC
Enemy Wheelbarrow Spotted..!!
+736|6824|Area 51

DaMaster wrote:

Peter wrote:

Just use the lock on glitch tbh.
Haven't played bf2 in months but it goes something like: get behind them in bomb view then quickly switch to missiles and let 4 go. First will miss rest hit, unless the deploy flares crazy early.
The OP said that the person never even deployed flairs, even so, that's not the point. The point is that the J-10 has a very small hit box and a lot of missiles miss it. Where as the F-15 F35 (or what ever it is) has a over sized hit box and nearly every ALL FUCKING missiles hits.
Fixed for u

Last edited by RDMC (2008-07-19 09:57:17)

aimless
Member
+166|6384|Texas
If you're close enough you can just shoot a missle and the jet will be right in front of your wing and hit it. No lock for enemy either.
noitekk
Member
+2|6838
Might seem a little cheap but I tend to avoid them until they go to resupply.  Lots of people in J10s tend to slow way the hell down when doing this.  Just come in from a slightly higher angle to them, their to low for flares and their slow speed makes them sitting ducks for a couple missle and cannon fire.
dtacs
say that 2 my face fucker not online
+126|6093|Australia

hiberNative wrote:

i like the mods for flying
poe2 <3
This.
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HSG
Member
+23|6733|British Columbia, Canada

Peter wrote:

Just use the lock on glitch tbh.
Haven't played bf2 in months but it goes something like: get behind them in bomb view then quickly switch to missiles and let 4 go. First will miss rest hit, unless the deploy flares crazy early.
U need to install the game.
NooBesT
Pizzahitler
+873|6728

The usual J-10 pilot (the ones that don't know that other views than cockpit exist) is pretty easy to shoot down really. Though it's much easier for them to shoot you down if you have F35.
https://i.imgur.com/S9bg2.png
HSG
Member
+23|6733|British Columbia, Canada
indeed.
d4rkph03n1x
Member
+131|7008

Little BaBy JESUS wrote:

Ok this is just my rant cuz im sick of it.

about 10 min ago while i was playing as USMC on Wake. i was in a F-35, i lined up perfectly behind a J-10 which was attacking one of my choppers (i had bombs out so he didnt know i was there). so i switched to missiles and waited for him to deploy flares. he didnt. he was so intent on getting the chopper he just flew straight. so i fired 2 missiles a small gap then 1 more.

so my first 2 missiles go straight past the J-10 which was the perfect distance and perfect position and straight into my teams chopper and i end up with like 4 TK's. the other missile continues past the J-10 like it is not even there and god only knows where the hell it went.

so i mean WTF. i know u'll say "U shouldve just used your cannon". but if ive got missiles i might as well use them. this is obviously not the first time this has happened to me... but im just fucking sick of it. it seems the Chinese have developed the perfect heatseeking missile and the Americans must have got a bomb and strapped a bottle of diet coke and mentos to it.

/rant
F35B VS anything, spam every single missile you have, run away, reload.
mnishimura00
I ruin Wake Island for everybody.
+15|6442
well in a situation like this, i would have hit him a little with the cannon, just enough to scratch the paint a bit (while in bomb mode), and then quickly switch to missiles and spam missles using the glitch.  if you don't already know, you can fire missles without a lock as long as you are close to him, and they will seek.  the target will not receive a warning lock tone, but solid lock tone.  depending on how close you are behind him, he will have little or no time to release countermeasures.  if you had hit him enough with the guns, 1 missle will leave his jet a flying wreck with him inside. it is best to implement this strategy while the target is rearming and unaware of your presence.  he will fly in a straight line giving you a clear target.

the first time this happened to me, i was already a mildly experienced pilot, and thought it was hax for sure.  then i tried it myself... it might as well be hax - it is that good of a strategy.
Miniman7474
Banned.
+30|6458|Daqing Oilfields?

mnishimura00 wrote:

well in a situation like this, i would have hit him a little with the cannon, just enough to scratch the paint a bit (while in bomb mode), and then quickly switch to missiles and spam missles using the glitch.  if you don't already know, you can fire missles without a lock as long as you are close to him, and they will seek.  the target will not receive a warning lock tone, but solid lock tone.  depending on how close you are behind him, he will have little or no time to release countermeasures.  if you had hit him enough with the guns, 1 missle will leave his jet a flying wreck with him inside. it is best to implement this strategy while the target is rearming and unaware of your presence.  he will fly in a straight line giving you a clear target.

the first time this happened to me, i was already a mildly experienced pilot, and thought it was hax for sure.  then i tried it myself... it might as well be hax - it is that good of a strategy.
Not sure where you play (and I know you know what you're doing), but most experienced pilots will not repair in a straight line, they dive in and out getting everything they need in 1 pass. They also turn a lot, so its very hard to find them flying straight for more than 3 seconds. You can still do this, you just have to do it while they turn a little. Hitting them with MGs too much will alert them to your presence normally, so you gotta do it all at once, but toggling between missles/bombs. That way they think you're not able to get a steady lock. At the end of the day, you just gotta get them to flare and just spam as many missles as you can as close as you can and hope a few hit the hit box. Even if they survive, it will be easier for you or the essex to take them down.

Its all about getting them to flare and then getting back on their ass to shove some missles up it. If the essex has a brain, squad with them and work with them through VOIP. I do this all the time, and basically its a tag team effort-he gets them to flare and I finish them with missles. If they're not raping the carrier or going near it, you're on your own-don't double team with the other F35 unless one of you is going for repairs or ammo, because you will crash.
Little BaBy JESUS
m8
+394|6407|'straya
Yer i already use the whole sneek up with bombs out then missiles etc. actually lat night when i was playing Oman it happened to some poor guy that tried to take me out haha. i was shooting an F-35 (in a MiG) and another F-35 came behind me. i deployed flares and did the usual counter measures (doging etc) the missiles went straight past me and hit his team mate. i then did a backfilp while he was heading for carrier and took him out with cannons. i then proceeded to take those 2 pilots out about 20 times without a death. i then explained how i would sneek up on them etc (they were noobs). they got the idea. but all i had to do was keep checking behind me and out-manouver them. made it more interesting lol.
Miniman7474
Banned.
+30|6458|Daqing Oilfields?
I went 37-0 today doing that same thing in a J10 on Wake...round timer went off like half way through though. Its funny how they don't realize it takes no skill to shoot down most F35 Pilots, and not much to take out a good one.
Snake
Missing, Presumed Dead
+1,046|6825|England

This is why I avoid all PLA maps with J10's and F35's. Seriously, dont play those maps (Dalian/DV/Wake) if you want a "fairer" game and not want to complain. Unless you know how to Stratorun, but even then the missiles will still be on your 6.

MIG & F35 is a lot more balanced, F35 will still attract missiles, but the MIG can be hit without using the spammage trick. Zatar is really good fun in the air...not that most people realise that.
ZeqTr
I BELIEVE I CAN FLY....
+121|6459
you need the leeeet Zeqtr Config.con
MrAnderson
Ghost Town T90/Apache Whore
+99|6258|Aberdeen, Scotland
Snake is right, those maps are awful even without the imbalance of airpower; Dragon Valley is ok, but Dalian and Wake are just pants
Arnie_Ze_Austrian
Member
+55|6401
Unless you know how to Stratorun
I was up against a good stratorunner on Dragon the other day (I do it myself a lot, but rarely encounter anyone who uses it on pubs).  He hit it so perfectly that I'd give chase and climb to ~850 directly behind him, but he'd zip off across the map before I even got near him (so I'd just see him disappearing into the sky / fog).  Looks pretty funny; it's like trying to chase batman.
Ajax_the_Great1
Dropped on request
+206|6905

Arnie_Ze_Austrian wrote:

Unless you know how to Stratorun
I was up against a good stratorunner on Dragon the other day (I do it myself a lot, but rarely encounter anyone who uses it on pubs).  He hit it so perfectly that I'd give chase and climb to ~850 directly behind him, but he'd zip off across the map before I even got near him (so I'd just see him disappearing into the sky / fog).  Looks pretty funny; it's like trying to chase batman.
I hate that map in an F35. Stupid clouds make it too hard to see how high up I am. It's more fun to just screw around flying straight up and see how many times you can bail in and out of it.
Jebus
Looking for my Scooper
+218|6023|Belgium
What's this stratorunning you're talking about?
Hakei
Banned
+295|6254

Jebus wrote:

What's this stratorunning you're talking about?
Speed of the jet goes insane at 800+, I usually go to/from the china base @ 900 and use thrust, you get a speed of 3000 and travel the map in a few seconds.
Jebus
Looking for my Scooper
+218|6023|Belgium

Hakei wrote:

Jebus wrote:

What's this stratorunning you're talking about?
Speed of the jet goes insane at 800+, I usually go to/from the china base @ 900 and use thrust, you get a speed of 3000 and travel the map in a few seconds.
So it's flying high then going down to get insane speed?
Peter
Super Awesome Member
+494|6661|dm_maidenhead

DaMaster wrote:

Peter wrote:

Just use the lock on glitch tbh.
Haven't played bf2 in months but it goes something like: get behind them in bomb view then quickly switch to missiles and let 4 go. First will miss rest hit, unless the deploy flares crazy early.
The OP said that the person never even deployed flairs, even so, that's not the point. The point is that the J-10 has a very small hit box and a lot of missiles miss it. Where as the F-15 (or what ever it is) has a over sized hit box and nearly every missile hits.
But have you tried this? No?

Well it works against the average J-10.
Slarty
Member
+37|6223|Ingerland

Jebus wrote:

Hakei wrote:

Jebus wrote:

What's this stratorunning you're talking about?
Speed of the jet goes insane at 800+, I usually go to/from the china base @ 900 and use thrust, you get a speed of 3000 and travel the map in a few seconds.
So it's flying high then going down to get insane speed?
No, it's due to the fact that at high altitude the jet is able to go much faster, and hence outrun the J-10s missles.

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