Kmar
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Turquoise wrote:

Icleos wrote:

How do you measure that?  How much they care?  By their illicit actions?
Obviously the host is going to care the most if they're hosting the Olympics.
True, but when you consider the enthusiasm they've shown in past Olympics compared to the relatively low ratings our Olympics coverage gets when it's even held here, I'd say China cares more.
Low rating... pfft your nuts.

(National rating = USA)
http://www.zap2it.com/tv/ratings/zap-ra … 7740.story
NBC's 19.0 rating/30 share in primetime was an improvement over Monday's 17.6/28 and once again destroyed the competition. CBS took second at 4.1/6. ABC's 2.9/5 was good for third, while FOX took fourth with a 2.2/4. The CW managed only a 0.6/1.
http://www.zap2it.com/tv/ratings/zap-ra … 1131.story
NBC still dominated the night, however, drawing a 16.5 rating/27 share. CBS led the rest of the field with a 3.9/6. ABC, 2.7/5, edged FOX, 2.4/4, for third. The CW managed only a 0.7/1.
That's at least four times as many viewers compared to the rest.
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iamangry wrote:

On another note, does anyone remember the chinese promising no rain during the olympics? 

Was that stuff falling during the first US men's beach volleyball game, or during the woman's cycling earlier this week something else? 

All I have to say is lol to anyone who thinks the chinese regime is anything but dishonest, deceitful, and aggressive towards the West.
At least in 2012 they can't complain for the conditions they're gonna put up with.
Turquoise
O Canada
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Kmarion wrote:

Turquoise wrote:

Icleos wrote:

How do you measure that?  How much they care?  By their illicit actions?
Obviously the host is going to care the most if they're hosting the Olympics.
True, but when you consider the enthusiasm they've shown in past Olympics compared to the relatively low ratings our Olympics coverage gets when it's even held here, I'd say China cares more.
Low rating... pfft your nuts.

(National rating = USA)
http://www.zap2it.com/tv/ratings/zap-ra … 7740.story
NBC's 19.0 rating/30 share in primetime was an improvement over Monday's 17.6/28 and once again destroyed the competition. CBS took second at 4.1/6. ABC's 2.9/5 was good for third, while FOX took fourth with a 2.2/4. The CW managed only a 0.6/1.
http://www.zap2it.com/tv/ratings/zap-ra … 1131.story
NBC still dominated the night, however, drawing a 16.5 rating/27 share. CBS led the rest of the field with a 3.9/6. ABC, 2.7/5, edged FOX, 2.4/4, for third. The CW managed only a 0.7/1.
That's at least four times as many viewers compared to the rest.
Back when the games were held in Athens, the story was different.
Uzique
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Turquoise wrote:

usmarine wrote:

Turquoise wrote:

Hosting this in Beijing is a slap in the face of human rights.
oh bollocks.
So the fate of the Tibetans and the Uyghurs doesn't concern you?
You weren't crying abou these people before the Olympic hype started, but now you play the human rights card as if you're some sort of altruist.

I guess you'll only start talking and whining about the injustice and prejudice that foreigners suffer in South Africa when they host their own games, right?

Stfu.
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Turquoise
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Uzique wrote:

Turquoise wrote:

usmarine wrote:

oh bollocks.
So the fate of the Tibetans and the Uyghurs doesn't concern you?
You weren't crying abou these people before the Olympic hype started, but now you play the human rights card as if you're some sort of altruist.

I guess you'll only start talking and whining about the injustice and prejudice that foreigners suffer in South Africa when they host their own games, right?

Stfu.
Alright, we'll take your approach.  Let's host the next games in North Korea.... or better yet, how about Zimbabwe or Sudan?

Last edited by Turquoise (2008-08-16 12:21:22)

Poseidon
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Turquoise wrote:

Uzique wrote:

Turquoise wrote:

So the fate of the Tibetans and the Uyghurs doesn't concern you?
You weren't crying abou these people before the Olympic hype started, but now you play the human rights card as if you're some sort of altruist.

I guess you'll only start talking and whining about the injustice and prejudice that foreigners suffer in South Africa when they host their own games, right?

Stfu.
Alright, we'll take your approach.  Let's host the next games in North Korea.... or better yet, how about Zimbabwe or Sudan?
Better yet, Darfur! Or Iran!

Edit: Damn your edit.

Last edited by Poseidon (2008-08-16 12:22:08)

Turquoise
O Canada
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Poseidon wrote:

Turquoise wrote:

Uzique wrote:


You weren't crying abou these people before the Olympic hype started, but now you play the human rights card as if you're some sort of altruist.

I guess you'll only start talking and whining about the injustice and prejudice that foreigners suffer in South Africa when they host their own games, right?

Stfu.
Alright, we'll take your approach.  Let's host the next games in North Korea.... or better yet, how about Zimbabwe or Sudan?
Better yet, Darfur! Or Iran!

Edit: Damn your edit.
Iran is probably the best comparison.
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I want to see the Olympics in Iran.
Turquoise
O Canada
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Icleos wrote:

I want to see the Olympics in Iran.
I wanna see burqa covered gymnasts.  That's gotta be fun to watch just for the sheer awkwardness.
Uzique
dasein.
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Actually my approach is to not overly politicise a bunch of fucking games unnecessarily. I was criticising your own approach of crying incessantly over minorities that you didn't even care about (or hear about either most likely in the case of the Uyghurs) until a few months ago- you can't selectively care for human rights when your media's sensationalism dictates for it, that's so farcical. So yeah, please keep returning the witty and completely irrelevant responses in defense of your ridiculous mentality, and keep chowing down on those Freedom Fries you self-contradicting idiot. These are Olympic Games, a sporting event, why act as if you're the Batman of human-rights when it's completely irrelevant?

Reading your posts are enough to make anyone angry, you act as if Tibet has been your mission and passion in life for the last 10 years- but you didn't give a damn until the country was mentioned in your national press. So, in order to 'test' your commitment to human rights I ask you if you care about the oppression and injustice in South Africa- whilst sarcastically mentioning that they'd have to host their own games before you cared. So your suggestion is to host it in North Korea... haha, you're mocking yourself and you're mocking your own approach to selflessness- think about what you're posting. You're a joke quite frankly. I'm not so sure the Tibetans or Uyghurs would even appreciate your support considering how ephemeral your approach to human-rights is.

Now please just stick to whining about how China are going to beat the USA in Olympic Golds; throwing around cheat-accusations and doping concerns, they're the only topics of conversation in this thread that aren't utterly risible.

Last edited by Uzique (2008-08-16 12:29:22)

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Poseidon
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typical uzique
jord
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Turquoise wrote:

Uzique wrote:

Turquoise wrote:


So the fate of the Tibetans and the Uyghurs doesn't concern you?
You weren't crying abou these people before the Olympic hype started, but now you play the human rights card as if you're some sort of altruist.

I guess you'll only start talking and whining about the injustice and prejudice that foreigners suffer in South Africa when they host their own games, right?

Stfu.
Alright, we'll take your approach.  Let's host the next games in North Korea.... or better yet, how about Zimbabwe or Sudan?
Wouldn't bother me. How you feel about those countries a lot feel like the West. We don't deserve it, China, Russia, Korea don't deserve it. Maybe it can be held in countries with tribes that aren't guilty of human rights and massive corruption. Or maybe the monks of Tibet can host OH SHI...
Turquoise
O Canada
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Uzique wrote:

Actually my approach is to not overly politicise a bunch of fucking games unnecessary. I was criticising your own approach of crying incessantly over minorities that you didn't even care about (or hear about either most likely in the case of the Uyghurs) until a few months ago- you can't selectively care for human rights when your media's sensationalism dictates for it, that's so farcical. So yeah, please keep returning the witty and completely irrelevant responses in defense of your ridiculous mentality, and keep chowing down on those Freedom Fries you self-contradicting idiot.
My apologies, I suppose your own country's history with Ireland might make human rights a touchy subject.

Uzique wrote:

they're the only topics of conversation in this thread that aren't utterly risible.
Don't forget to include your own asshat way of discussing things.  I'm sure we all appreciate the thick condescension that comes with most of what you post.

But seriously.  I'll drop the whole political side.  Let's take the games to Iran next.  South Africa could work too though.

Last edited by Turquoise (2008-08-16 12:33:29)

Uzique
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Poseidon wrote:

typical uzique
And since when do you make any decent or valued contributions?

Zzz, you're too predictable.

Turquoise wrote:

My apologies, I suppose your own country's history with Ireland might make human rights a touchy subject.
OH MY WHAT A CHECKMATE!

Or maybe it's because of the minute possibility that I don't want to talk about human-rights in a thread about the Olympics. Is this application of logic too hard for you comprehend? Sports; sporting events; sporting cheats; unfairness and rule-breaking; Olympic golds... Tibet & Uyghurs? It makes so much sense!

Honestly even your witty retorts are a joke.

Last edited by Uzique (2008-08-16 12:36:51)

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Turquoise
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Uzique wrote:

Poseidon wrote:

typical uzique
And since when do you make any decent or valued contributions?

Zzz, you're too predictable.
He does more often than you by a longshot.  Search the forum for yourself.
Poseidon
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Uzique wrote:

Poseidon wrote:

typical uzique
And since when do you make any decent or valued contributions?

Zzz, you're too predictable.
looks like we've struck a nerve, captain

I've made plenty of "decent and valued contributions". It's just not worth arguing with you because you make these gigantic wall of texts that nobody cares to read.

I'm too predictable? Rofl, I've never even had any interaction with you on these forums.
Turquoise
O Canada
+1,596|6826|North Carolina

Uzique wrote:

Turquoise wrote:

My apologies, I suppose your own country's history with Ireland might make human rights a touchy subject.
OH MY WHAT A CHECKMATE!

Or maybe it's because of the minute possibility that I don't want to talk about human-rights in a thread about the Olympics. Is this application of logic too hard for you comprehend? Sports; sporting events; sporting cheats; unfairness and rule-breaking; Olympic golds... Tibet & Uyghurs? It makes so much sense!

Honestly even your witty retorts are a joke.
It would seem to be a checkmate since you back away from it whenever it's brought up.

Still, I'll honor your request by dropping my part of the human rights discussion.
Uzique
dasein.
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Honestly I don't care about how the British Empire treated Ireland. I'm not claiming to be the altruist benevolent upholder of worldwide human-rights like you are. The only request I'm making is that you should stop spouting your media-frenzied 'support' for the Uyghurs and Tibetan monks in a thread about the Olympics and the possibility of China cheating for golds. Many countries in the history of the Olympics have cheated or used unfair advantage... it is not linked or relevant with the countries human-right controversies or political histories.

It's hardly as if a mention of Ireland, the Raj or colonial Africa makes me break a sweat and cry. I genuinely do not care in the slightest. Please see it as 'backing away' if it helps your self-aggrandizing and ego-preening, but really who's doing the right thing here when it comes to backing away from a human-rights and British imperialism discussion in a thread about sporting fairness and the Olympics? I would invite you to discuss at length with me the British Empire's involvement in Ireland via PM, but the truthful reality of it is that I'm just not interested in these issues. If British Imperialism was still present today I would be indifferent, just so you know the volume of my 'c[_]' carecup on this issue nice and clearly.

Last edited by Uzique (2008-08-16 12:46:54)

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Turquoise
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Uzique wrote:

Honestly I don't care about how the British Empire treated Ireland. I'm not claiming to be the altruist benevolent upholder of worldwide human-rights like you are. The only request I'm making is that you should stop spouting your media-frenzied 'support' for the Uyghurs and Tibetan monks in a thread about the Olympics and the possibility of China cheating for golds. Many countries in the history of the Olympics have cheated or used unfair advantage... it is not linked or relevant with the countries human-right controversies or political histories.

It's hardly as if a mention of Ireland, the Raj or colonial Africa makes me break a sweat and cry. I genuinely do not care in the slightest. Please see it as 'backing away' if it helps your self-aggrandizing and ego-preening, but really who's doing the right thing here when it comes to backing away from a human-rights and British imperialism discussion in a thread about sporting fairness and the Olympics? I would invite you to discuss at length with me the British Empire's involvement in Ireland via PM, but the truthful reality of it is that I'm just not interested in these issues. If British Imperialism was still present today I would be indifferent, just so you know the depth of my 'c[_]' carecup on this issue nice and clearly.
So what you do care about is finding new creative ways to insult people over the derailing of a topic.  interesting....
Uzique
dasein.
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I'm not insulting you, I'm just saying you're only temporarily and ephemerally interested in the plight of people when the world's mainstream media and collective conscience cares. You're no more of a human rights activist than anybody else who can read the front-page of a national newspaper, and so hence you have no place or reason at all to be prattling on about this extraneous nonsense in a thread about Olympic cheating.

This is the third or fourth time I've made this basic reiteration for you now and you're still not getting it.
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Turquoise
O Canada
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Uzique wrote:

I'm not insulting you, I'm just saying you're only temporarily and ephemerally interested in the plight of people when the world's mainstream media and collective conscience cares. You're no more of a human rights activist than anybody else who can read the front-page of a national newspaper, and so hence you have no place or reason at all to be prattling on about this extraneous nonsense in a thread about Olympic cheating.

This is the third or fourth time I've made this basic reiteration for you now and you're still not getting it.
Well, I gotta say, thanks for assuming that I'm a mindless pawn of the media.
Uzique
dasein.
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He-ey, after reading your media scare-mongered threads on Russia's involvement in Georgia, as well as the fact that you only seem to be ready to talk about very prominently-referenced human-rights violations such as Tibet... no problem. I was happy to make that assumption.

Thread derail over now please? Would of happened 4 posts ago if you had fully comprehended what I was saying the first time around.
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Turquoise
O Canada
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So, who do you think will win the most medals?
Uzique
dasein.
+2,865|6891
China.

They rock!
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Turquoise
O Canada
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How old do you think the winners of the gymnastics team will be?  13, 14, 15, 16...  or 12 and under?

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