BF2S Forums Obama's links to terrorists? .....hhmmmm

Mek-Stizzle wrote:

I only give a shit because right now we have a Labour government that follows your stupid government everywhere they go and follow their stupid rhetoric too. And it matters because our election is in 2009 so we will have around half a year more of stupid US following before we can kick Labour out for a good amount of time and get some independence. So for that half a year or so, it matters who's in charge.

But you take it out on me, like I fuckin decide who is in charge. Or like them as much as you do for that matter.

blah blah.  we need an american only politcal section or thread for discussion.  we dont need all these discussions being fucked up as usual.

Uzique wrote:

Obama hung around with a terrorist 20 years ago, this is an outrage!.

Actually, he still hangs out with him.Oh, and he admits it.

Uzique wrote:

this terrorist-link stuff is old news and doesn't matter at all.

Um, yeah. it matters alot actually. I can't speak for Europe but over here in the US, terrorism is sort of a big deal.

usmarine wrote:

blah blah.  we need an american only politcal section or thread for discussion.  we dont need all these discussions being fucked up as usual.

The issue of who is President of the US means equally much to us Euros as it does for you, it means a great deal for the entire globe believe it or not ...

And you are one of the main contributors for several threads being fucked up as you so eloquently put it so stop nagging about that allready!

deeznutz1245 wrote:

Uzique wrote:

this terrorist-link stuff is old news and doesn't matter at all.

Um, yeah. it matters alot actually. I can't speak for Europe but over here in the US, terrorism is sort of a big deal.

You're damn right it is, you've been practicing it and funding it for many years, many more in fact than you've been fighting it!

Does this still not highlight the remarkable double-standard your voting public has?

Mek-Stizzle wrote:

deeznutz1245 wrote:

Mek-Stizzle wrote:

Yeah but as long as various Americans try to tell us we're going to be taken over by Muslims/Russians and all that shit I might aswell annoy you guys for fun too

Fair enough, I'll take that. But as long as grown men wear funny wigs I get to exploit that too, deal?

Consider it a gentlemen's agreement

He does realize the 'funny wigs' are worn by our judiciary, not our executive or legislative, right? Ergo: not politicians.

Uzique wrote:

Mek-Stizzle wrote:

deeznutz1245 wrote:

Fair enough, I'll take that. But as long as grown men wear funny wigs I get to exploit that too, deal?

Consider it a gentlemen's agreement

He does realize the 'funny wigs' are worn by our judiciary, not our executive or legislative, right? Ergo: not politicians.

only up until recently

Uzique wrote:

deeznutz1245 wrote:

Uzique wrote:

this terrorist-link stuff is old news and doesn't matter at all.

Um, yeah. it matters alot actually. I can't speak for Europe but over here in the US, terrorism is sort of a big deal.

You're damn right it is, you've been practicing it and funding it for many years, many more in fact than you've been fighting it!

Does this still not highlight the remarkable double-standard your voting public has?

Then why would you say it doesn't matter at all? Maybe some of us are sick of how we handle international diplomacy. Maybe some of us are sick of how we arm one country this decade, and have to fight them the next. Maybe some of us want a change and don't particularly like EITHER candidate, but find Obama to be another smooth talking corrupt piece of shit. Maybe some of us feel we should just let other nations destroy eachother and stay here at home and fix our border problems instead. Maybe not all of us republians are neocon's. Eh?

TheAussieReaper wrote:

usmarine wrote:

blah blah.  we need an american only politcal section or thread for discussion.  we dont need all these discussions being fucked up as usual.

Knock knock?

Who's there.

The Rest Of.

The Rest Of, who?

The Rest Of the World.

the rest or the world CANNOT VOTE FOR OUR PRESIDENT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

deeznutz1245 wrote:

Uzique wrote:

usmarine wrote:

blah blah.  we need an american only politcal section or thread for discussion.  we dont need all these discussions being fucked up as usual.

Because more narrowminded and introspective discussion is exactly what the doctor ordered for America; after you've been stampeding around the world high on your politician's rhetoric fucking things up for the last century. Surely the last thing you need in your election process is for non-US countries and interests to get involved or have their say!

I think if America was isolated for 50 years they'd probably hype theirselves into the next Nazi Germany. Watching that GOP convention last night with all the ridiculous rhetoric and fear-mongering being done was just as depressing as it was hilarious. Plus let's not beat around the bush, only about 20% of your nation's electorate are valued voters- you know, the ones with worthy college degrees or the ones in positions of power or influence. The other 80% are just staggering blindly into another mistake of an election based on judgements about the VP's daughter or Obama's religious background. We have to have our say and poke some fun really- otherwise it's just a very dire picture for the rest of us as we spectate.

Well  if 80% of our registered voters don't count becuse they are "idiots", what does that say about Europeans with an opinion who can't even vote at all? I mean, you bash us for interfering outside our borders which is fair. However, here you are expecting you opinion to be atop a pedestal when you are across the ocean and don't find any pattern to the  theory about us in which you embrace. You think this is a big deal for you over there, and I can respect that. But it is also a big deal for us too and when I have some legitimate concerns about one of he candidates you jump up my ass with bullshit. I too, am entitled to my opinion ok?

Not so much that we don't respect your opinions cause we do ... the point is some of you go totally apeshit when we express concerns about your government and foreign policy while us Euros mostly let you express concerns the other way around without us loosing our temper and resort to name calling beyond what should be reasonable ... this thread is a perfect example (worst posts deleted of course)

The rest of the world does try to keep an interest in the US.

We feel it's our obligation to tell you where you went wrong after your current administration was so critical of "us".

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/2687403.stm

usmarine wrote:

Varegg wrote:

usmarine wrote:

blah blah.  we need an american only politcal section or thread for discussion.  we dont need all these discussions being fucked up as usual.

The issue of who is President of the US means equally much to us Euros as it does for you, it means a great deal for the entire globe believe it or not ...

And you are one of the main contributors for several threads being fucked up as you so eloquently put it so stop nagging about that allready!

yes but you cant do shit about who gets elected.  so what the hell are you guys polluting these threads for?  leave it to the people who actually vote.  why is that so hard?  pls explain why you cant just leave it alone?

*We can do shit about it ... if we express our concernes about the matter it might change the mind of voters in your country.
*We think it is that important to us that we just can't leave it alone, it effects us ...

And of course you are free to comment on Norwegian politics and who will be prime minister in our election next year

usmarine wrote:

Varegg wrote:

usmarine wrote:

blah blah.  we need an american only politcal section or thread for discussion.  we dont need all these discussions being fucked up as usual.

The issue of who is President of the US means equally much to us Euros as it does for you, it means a great deal for the entire globe believe it or not ...

And you are one of the main contributors for several threads being fucked up as you so eloquently put it so stop nagging about that allready!

yes but you cant do shit about who gets elected.  so what the hell are you guys polluting these threads for?  leave it to the people who actually vote.  why is that so hard?  pls explain why you cant just leave it alone?

If we left it alone there would be nothing to debate or discuss in this Forum for 99.99% of all threads.

Conversely, if we started threads relevant only to the UK or Europe, all of you American's would probably jump on us in the same critical manner.

I mean just look at the (atrocious) content of this sub-Forum over the last week. There's been about 12 threads relating to the Palin-pregnancy scandal and only one half-decent thread that focussed on actual policy and statistics. And, laughably, that cross-examination topic was started by Iowing. All the rest of you intelligent and 'respected' D&ST old-school posters are getting your knickers in a twist over pregnancy and terrorist scandals, that have no direct bearing on political policy or the future of your nation.

Realistically this Forum has a huge US-citizen majority and so (unfortunately) us Europeans and Aussies have to chime in on the American-topic debates when we have any knowledge or information on the subject. I'm not sure how receptive you would be to the idea of a sub-Forum that exclusively talks about British politics all the time.