There will always be pirates. Game producers should be prepared for that and should expect it.
In other words, EA should suck it up.
In other words, EA should suck it up.
So if you get raped in the ass the answer to that is suck it up?Ryan wrote:
There will always be pirates. Game producers should be prepared for that and should expect it.
In other words, EA should suck it up.
Precisely ...nukchebi0 wrote:
Its a self-perpetuating cycle only the people pirating the games can stop. They really should think logically before they take up the flags of the classic 'e-rebel', but it is probably beyond them.
But most people pirate games because they don't want to spend money on them, so going after pirates is almost the same as going after people who aren't buying the damn thing to begin with.Stingray24 wrote:
Precisely ...nukchebi0 wrote:
Its a self-perpetuating cycle only the people pirating the games can stop. They really should think logically before they take up the flags of the classic 'e-rebel', but it is probably beyond them.
I mean, if am not going to spend money on Spore, but I still want to play it, then am I hurting anyone? I wasn't going to spend any money on the game anyway?
On the other hand I plan on buying Far Cry 2 and Red Alert 3, which is ironic in a way because I was introduced to those series when I pirated the first Far Cry and Command and Conquer Generals. So in that respect piracy served as free advertising, I wouldn't have paid money for the sequels if I hadn't gotten the earlier game for free.
Yet for some reason Activision/Infinity ward are receiving massive profits with a good single player and addictive multiplayer with COD4. The glitches and errors are minimal and the patches actually fix problems like it is suppose to. There is basic protection software (cd in cd drive). COD4 online is the 2nd most played game on xfire behind WOW.ELITE-UK wrote:
Its kind of a loop isnt it, EA put the DRM into the game to stop pirates fro downloading the game, but the pirates download the game more anyways...but if they just stop downloading the games in the first place then they wont put this kind of stuff into the software!!
Buy your games you cheap b*****ds!!
Game makers are turning away from the PC scene and yet you expect them to churn out great games and expect to get them for free! Unbelievable!!
I was saying that pirating a game solely because of DRM isn't going to do anything to decrease the DRM.DoctaStrangelove wrote:
But most people pirate games because they don't want to spend money on them, so going after pirates is almost the same as going after people who aren't buying the damn thing to begin with.Stingray24 wrote:
Precisely ...nukchebi0 wrote:
Its a self-perpetuating cycle only the people pirating the games can stop. They really should think logically before they take up the flags of the classic 'e-rebel', but it is probably beyond them.
I'm not going to spend any money on this soda, but I still want it. I'm sure insurance will cover it. No one is getting hurt.I mean, if am not going to spend money on Spore, but I still want to play it, then am I hurting anyone? I wasn't going to spend any money on the game anyway?
A touching story. You could have bought them, too.On the other hand I plan on buying Far Cry 2 and Red Alert 3, which is ironic in a way because I was introduced to those series when I pirated the first Far Cry and Command and Conquer Generals. So in that respect piracy served as free advertising, I wouldn't have paid money for the sequels if I hadn't gotten the earlier game for free.
But DRM doesn't reduce piracy, it's redundant and costly software that the removal of which would save everyone.nukchebi0 wrote:
I was saying that pirating a game solely because of DRM isn't going to do anything to decrease the DRM.
Bad analogy is bad.I'm not going to spend any money on this soda, but I still want it. I'm sure insurance will cover it. No one is getting hurt.
But I wasn't going too buy them in the first place so I didn't exactly cost anyone anything by pirating them. In fact the opposite, as my piracy was the best advertising possible, had I not pirated those games I would not have bought the other games in the series. The makers of the games made money from me pirating them that they wouldn't have made if I hadn't pirated.A touching story. You could have bought them, too.
So basically piracy isn't nearly as bad as the companies who make stuff make it out to be and you're a douche-bag.
You clearly, clearly, don't understand that the effectiveness has nothing to do with how EA perceives it.But DRM doesn't reduce piracy, it's redundant and costly software that the removal of which would save everyone.
Without elaborating on why it is bad, it looks like you are incapable of reply and thus got owned.Bad analogy is bad.
So did you buy them after you pirated them?But I wasn't going too buy them in the first place so I didn't exactly cost anyone anything by pirating them. In fact the opposite, as my piracy was the best advertising possible, had I not pirated those games I would not have bought the other games in the series. The makers of the games made money from me pirating them that they wouldn't have made if I hadn't pirated.
So basically piracy isn't nearly as bad as the companies who make stuff make it out to be and you're a douche-bag.
Can you tell us how EA does perceive it?nukchebi0 wrote:
You clearly, clearly, don't understand that the effectiveness has nothing to do with how EA perceives it.But DRM doesn't reduce piracy, it's redundant and costly software that the removal of which would save everyone.
It's bad because it doesn't fit what we're talking about at all. You're getting another company to buy something for you by lying.nukchebi0 wrote:
Without elaborating on why it is bad, it looks like you are incapable of reply and thus got owned.Bad analogy is bad.
Whereas Docta who was never going to give the company money, downloaded it, found out that he liked it and decided to buy the sequels.
What difference does it make? They made a sale that they wouldn't have made without him pirating the first ones.nukchebi0 wrote:
So did you buy them after you pirated them?
Theres a lawsuit against EA somewhere in California...it said something about spores DRM having a form of spyware/botnet on it. It supposedly installs itself to the kernel of your machine giving it higher rights than you and it is uninstallable since it binds itself with files your system needs. It monitors you hardrware changes and what programs your running and it can disable certain tasks or programs or run some depending on what it wants to do. It also uses up recources and you cant end the process without crashing your computer and at startup, it gathers loads of information making your startup time longer. nowhere in the EULA does it say that it installs this software and it doesnt ask you if you want the software on there. So it acts like a botnet...except it doesnt ddos or use your computers for malicious things, it just spys and annoys you and some people have reported it breaking certain vista functions. the only way to get rid of it is to reformat. or buy a new harddrive.
heres the complaint http://www.courthousenews.com/2008/09/23/Spore.pdf
google for more infos
heres the complaint http://www.courthousenews.com/2008/09/23/Spore.pdf
google for more infos
I totally agree with Zimmer on this one. I will buy a game play it for a bit unisntall it and come back to it in a few months. Hell, I have installed/uninstalled Diablo II about 5 times and BF2 like 6 or 7 times.Zimmer wrote:
I disagree. Customer always wins. They do it first, we do it after. Piracy will always be here, but if they put more trust in us, then they will get more out of us. I have bought every game I truly love ( with the exception of PES2008 on the PC... wouldn't call it true love though ) and will keep on doing so if they give me a game, not a fucking pathetic DRM license bullshit. I would have already had to pay for a new spore because I have reformatted my HDD 6 times. Pathetic.ELITE-UK wrote:
Its kind of a loop isnt it, EA put the DRM into the game to stop pirates fro downloading the game, but the pirates download the game more anyways...but if they just stop downloading the games in the first place then they wont put this kind of stuff into the software!!
Buy your games you cheap b*****ds!!
Game makers are turning away from the PC scene and yet you expect them to churn out great games and expect to get them for free! Unbelievable!!
EA doesn't listen to use anyway, why should we listen to them?
Lol most anticipated game in a while and it sux lololol
#rekt
*1 thing*
do a fucking key check when loggin on your email with the master server k,thx
do a fucking key check when loggin on your email with the master server k,thx
well i refuse to allow a program to modify my registry without my permission full stop
i dont see the harm in downloading a program/game off the net and using it, if you eventually buy it...its practically like a trial except you get full functionality. What makes it worse is a lot of companies give really excessive advertising saying that their program is number 1, best thing money can buy, greatest release of the year, etc, etc...then you install it and its a piece of shit.
i dont see the harm in downloading a program/game off the net and using it, if you eventually buy it...its practically like a trial except you get full functionality. What makes it worse is a lot of companies give really excessive advertising saying that their program is number 1, best thing money can buy, greatest release of the year, etc, etc...then you install it and its a piece of shit.
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EA brought it upon themselves. I was going to buy the game too, I was very excited even. However, they put this install limit bullshit and DRM poo on the disk and I'm just not going to deal with it at all.
I'm not going to pirate the game and I'm not going to buy it. They don't deserve a second of my time. This also put the final nail in the EA coffin for me. I will never purchase another game developed or published by them.
I'm not going to pirate the game and I'm not going to buy it. They don't deserve a second of my time. This also put the final nail in the EA coffin for me. I will never purchase another game developed or published by them.
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Selling games on ebay after you have finished them for second hand use has been going on for years. So once you're tired of this piece of shit(probably after a week) you're stuck with it.
There's another reason not to support EA's by not buying this craporama.
There's another reason not to support EA's by not buying this craporama.
I Lol'd.heggs wrote:
EA brought it upon themselves. I was going to buy the game too, I was very excited even. However, they put this install limit bullshit and DRM poo on the disk and I'm just not going to deal with it at all.
I'm not going to pirate the game and I'm not going to buy it. They don't deserve a second of my time. This also put the final nail in the EA coffin for me. I will never purchase another game developed or published by them.
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That pretty much leaves you with just Bejewelled then.heggs wrote:
EA brought it upon themselves. I was going to buy the game too, I was very excited even. However, they put this install limit bullshit and DRM poo on the disk and I'm just not going to deal with it at all.
I'm not going to pirate the game and I'm not going to buy it. They don't deserve a second of my time. This also put the final nail in the EA coffin for me. I will never purchase another game developed or published by them.
My state was founded by Batman. Your opinion is invalid.
Bejewelled is eh pretty cool game i play it on my mobile phone and it doesn't afraid of no more moves.Cheez wrote:
That pretty much leaves you with just Bejewelled then.heggs wrote:
EA brought it upon themselves. I was going to buy the game too, I was very excited even. However, they put this install limit bullshit and DRM poo on the disk and I'm just not going to deal with it at all.
I'm not going to pirate the game and I'm not going to buy it. They don't deserve a second of my time. This also put the final nail in the EA coffin for me. I will never purchase another game developed or published by them.
They need to implement a software scan for games,
like "you need to close "xxxx" program to start the game" and if you bypass it PB should ban u insta for it.
its possible but "they" think sales go down on this.
like "you need to close "xxxx" program to start the game" and if you bypass it PB should ban u insta for it.
its possible but "they" think sales go down on this.
Not necessarily. There's plenty of other developers and publishers out there. Valve, SCEA, Insomniac, Infinity Ward, Ubisoft, Take 2/rockstar... the list is pretty substantial. I think the last game I bought from them was BF2142 a couple of years ago, and since then I've probably purchased close to 20 games.Cheez wrote:
That pretty much leaves you with just Bejewelled then.heggs wrote:
EA brought it upon themselves. I was going to buy the game too, I was very excited even. However, they put this install limit bullshit and DRM poo on the disk and I'm just not going to deal with it at all.
I'm not going to pirate the game and I'm not going to buy it. They don't deserve a second of my time. This also put the final nail in the EA coffin for me. I will never purchase another game developed or published by them.
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I too want to boycott EA, but if they ever release BF3 I am bound to buy itheggs wrote:
Not necessarily. There's plenty of other developers and publishers out there. Valve, SCEA, Insomniac, Infinity Ward, Ubisoft, Take 2/rockstar... the list is pretty substantial. I think the last game I bought from them was BF2142 a couple of years ago, and since then I've probably purchased close to 20 games.Cheez wrote:
That pretty much leaves you with just Bejewelled then.heggs wrote:
EA brought it upon themselves. I was going to buy the game too, I was very excited even. However, they put this install limit bullshit and DRM poo on the disk and I'm just not going to deal with it at all.
I'm not going to pirate the game and I'm not going to buy it. They don't deserve a second of my time. This also put the final nail in the EA coffin for me. I will never purchase another game developed or published by them.
That's kinda what DRM does, but it's not hard to bypass/disable it.GateKeeper{NL} wrote:
They need to implement a software scan for games,
like "you need to close "xxxx" program to start the game" and if you bypass it PB should ban u insta for it.
its possible but "they" think sales go down on this.
"If they code it, we can hack it"
Spoiler (highlight to read):
Don't ask me where that's from I made it up myself just now
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Deep words.DoctaStrangelove wrote:
That's kinda what DRM does, but it's not hard to bypass/disable it.GateKeeper{NL} wrote:
They need to implement a software scan for games,
like "you need to close "xxxx" program to start the game" and if you bypass it PB should ban u insta for it.
its possible but "they" think sales go down on this.
"If they code it, we can hack it"
Spoiler (highlight to read):
Don't ask me where that's from I made it up myself just now