I don't drink to get drunk, I just like the taste a lot. Nothing wrong about consuming in limited quantities. It won't have a negative effect on youFFLink13 wrote:
People feel they need to be drunk to have fun, as being drunk "let's you loose" so to say (Not that I'd know, just from what others tell me).Mek-Stizzle wrote:
If I could go out and have as much fun whilst being completely sober/not high as I would be if I was wasted/high, I'd actually like that quite alot. So in that sense, maybe I envy you, Link. On the other hand, it's still awesome.
Honestly, I wouldn't be able to let loose and have fun too if everyone around me wasn't drunk, though
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You didn't resort to anything, you chose to cop out. You got problems, talk. Shit happens and not learning to deal with it won't help you.Poseidon wrote:
Yes, I'm glad you think you know my situation all so well.
Short fact is, you don't, and fuck you for trying to compare. I'm sorry about what happened to your family as well, but don't try to relate and act like you're some superior person because you got through without something to help. Last year was probably, if not the worst year of my entire life, and my dad having his heart attack was just added onto it. I needed something to calm me down since God knows I couldn't get any help elsewhere, and wanted to prevent myself from doing anything drastic. It worked.
Especially the dog part? Yes, when a faithful companion of 8 years who never left my side while I was home dies in front of my very own eyes, it's "quite uncalled for". Wow. Reeeeeeeally?
It's not these events alone, it's them combined together. If these had happened on their own, I'd be okay most likely and wouldn't have to resort to smoking weed, but they didn't.
Fucking hell.
And I DID deal with them. Weed is NOT my permanent solution. I did it so I could calm down at the MOMENT. I've done it two fucking times and you think I "copped out"?Defiance wrote:
You didn't resort to anything, you chose to cop out. You got problems, talk. Shit happens and not learning to deal with it won't help you.Poseidon wrote:
Yes, I'm glad you think you know my situation all so well.
Short fact is, you don't, and fuck you for trying to compare. I'm sorry about what happened to your family as well, but don't try to relate and act like you're some superior person because you got through without something to help. Last year was probably, if not the worst year of my entire life, and my dad having his heart attack was just added onto it. I needed something to calm me down since God knows I couldn't get any help elsewhere, and wanted to prevent myself from doing anything drastic. It worked.
Especially the dog part? Yes, when a faithful companion of 8 years who never left my side while I was home dies in front of my very own eyes, it's "quite uncalled for". Wow. Reeeeeeeally?
It's not these events alone, it's them combined together. If these had happened on their own, I'd be okay most likely and wouldn't have to resort to smoking weed, but they didn't.
Fucking hell.
I don't think it's rational to smoke pot to deal with your emotions, though your perception and actions line up so there's no confusion. You didn't deal with them yourself, you found some external solution. At the time, you did cop out, though it's good you haven't kept it up.Poseidon wrote:
And I DID deal with them. Weed is NOT my permanent solution. I did it so I could calm down at the MOMENT. I've done it two fucking times and you think I "copped out"?
Wow. Is it really that hard to understand, or are you guys so vehemently anti-weed that it's blocked your rational thoughts out of the discussion?
You guys are so disillusioned with reality, you're coming up on Gatsby rankings about now.
So I guess it's not okay to use therapists because they're "external solutions"? Right. Everyone, fuck meds, fuck doctors, fuck psychologists. You can deal with this all yourself, because Defiance said so. I guess anyone who goes to a therapist "cops out" as well.Defiance wrote:
I don't think it's rational to smoke pot to deal with your emotions, though your perception and actions line up so there's no confusion. You didn't deal with them yourself, you found some external solution. At the time, you did cop out, though it's good you haven't kept it up.Poseidon wrote:
And I DID deal with them. Weed is NOT my permanent solution. I did it so I could calm down at the MOMENT. I've done it two fucking times and you think I "copped out"?
Wow. Is it really that hard to understand, or are you guys so vehemently anti-weed that it's blocked your rational thoughts out of the discussion?
You guys are so disillusioned with reality, you're coming up on Gatsby rankings about now.
Stress is not handled with THC, you have to deal with it yourself or get it out to someone else. If it were reality to handle stress with drugs, then they'd be prescribed as often as happy pills. Unfortunately, that's just as bad, so at least you've got company in that boat.
Oh, and please, quantify that particular piece of literature. Perhaps you'd remember the last few pages, the ones about taking refuge to avoid responsibility?
Oh no, there's certain things you can't deal with alone. If you're comfortable with a therapist then talking to them would help, though family may be cheaper and more effective. The difference is inhaling a drug to get rid of the problem. The difference is ignoring it or dealing with it. 'External solutions' was a bit ambiguous.Poseidon wrote:
So I guess it's not okay to use therapists because they're "external solutions"? Right. Everyone, fuck meds, fuck doctors, fuck psychologists. You can deal with this all yourself, because Defiance said so. I guess anyone who goes to a therapist "cops out" as well.
I wasn't referring to the entire book anyways, I was simply referring how you and the rest of the anti-weed are simply disillusioned with reality, which was a main point of the book.
AKA Drugs, so I guess it is reality. Don't demonize one and say the other is ok because it's dispensed legally. They are all drugs.Defiance wrote:
-If it were reality to handle stress with drugs, then they'd be prescribed as often as happy pills.
Your thread reading skills are remarkable. She clearly has an addictive, attention whore personality. Weed is just a side effect.Matt^ wrote:
Yeah smoking weed is a serious addiction problem, watch out you might overdose.MadKatter wrote:
Mmmmkay. Rationalize however you please.Shaguart wrote:
OH sorry i guess i cant attepmt to make people laugh at my picture... It was one of my more interesting pictrues and i figured it would be funny to post... BUT apperantly its not very funny because smoking is sooo bad, and i only do it becasue im mr cool right?
and next time take a bit of a closer look, and notice its not weed, but its infact a ciggarette that my brother gave me.
But don't go into a thread with a girl with a serious addiction problem and agree with potheads saying "it's no big deal".
Way to blatantly take that out of context. "Unfortunately, that's just as bad, so at least you've got company in that boat." I'm demonizing both. I said "happy pills" instead of "anti-depressants" because these drugs are given out casually to anyone who walks in sad on a rainy day. If you have an actual mental problem, you'd need a therapist to diagnose that and if, in their professional opinion, you have a mental problem then I don't argue against medication.iNeedUrFace4Soup wrote:
AKA Drugs, so I guess it is reality. Don't demonize one and say the other is ok because it's dispensed legally. They are all drugs.Defiance wrote:
-If it were reality to handle stress with drugs, then they'd be prescribed as often as happy pills.
Yes, true you shouldn't use drugs to cope with stress, but you can and sometimes maybe it is OK.
No, there's absolutely no difference. If I can smoke weed TWICE to deal with things on a very temporary basis and to just cool me down for the day so I don't do anything drastic and then follow it up by dealing with it directly, there's absolutely nothing wrong with that. If others feel that they can get through it, those are their views. I didn't know what I was going to do next, and I was going to ensure I was still fucking breathing the following day, even if it meant smoking weed.Defiance wrote:
Oh no, there's certain things you can't deal with alone. If you're comfortable with a therapist then talking to them would help, though family may be cheaper and more effective. The difference is inhaling a drug to get rid of the problem. The difference is ignoring it or dealing with it. 'External solutions' was a bit ambiguous.Poseidon wrote:
So I guess it's not okay to use therapists because they're "external solutions"? Right. Everyone, fuck meds, fuck doctors, fuck psychologists. You can deal with this all yourself, because Defiance said so. I guess anyone who goes to a therapist "cops out" as well.
I wasn't referring to the entire book anyways, I was simply referring how you and the rest of the anti-weed are simply disillusioned with reality, which was a main point of the book.
If you think I'm disillusioned, you've yet to prove you're perception is the right one.
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tap it now!!!TheAussieReaper wrote:
Maybe she needs a friend now more than ever
Your Dad had a heart attack and you're dog past on. Not that those are anything light, but this made you feel suicidal? Now what the hell would that have done? Absolutely nothing. That is your flawed perception, and I can't help but suggest some help but that's your choice.Poseidon wrote:
No, there's absolutely no difference. If I can smoke weed TWICE to deal with things on a very temporary basis and to just cool me down for the day so I don't do anything drastic and then follow it up by dealing with it directly, there's absolutely nothing wrong with that. If others feel that they can get through it, those are their views. I didn't know what I was going to do next, and I was going to ensure I was still fucking breathing the following day, even if it meant smoking weed.
They're both 'external solutions' in your logic, which are apparentely demonized in your view. Oh wait, no, only if you inhale it's demonized.
I've proven it through my OWN PERSONAL EXPERIENCES. You've proven absolutely nothing, and are simply going off of your own moral obligations, not experiences.
Did I say that? They felt me like total shit (correction: BEYOND total shit) but never really suicidal. I know suicide would probably do nothing more than destroy my family, so there's really no point to it. Plus, I've got a future ahead of me and I KNOW that.Defiance wrote:
Your Dad had a heart attack and you're dog past on. Not that those are anything light, but this made you feel suicidal? Now what the hell would that have done? Absolutely nothing. That is your flawed perception, and I can't help but suggest some help but that's your choice.Poseidon wrote:
No, there's absolutely no difference. If I can smoke weed TWICE to deal with things on a very temporary basis and to just cool me down for the day so I don't do anything drastic and then follow it up by dealing with it directly, there's absolutely nothing wrong with that. If others feel that they can get through it, those are their views. I didn't know what I was going to do next, and I was going to ensure I was still fucking breathing the following day, even if it meant smoking weed.
They're both 'external solutions' in your logic, which are apparentely demonized in your view. Oh wait, no, only if you inhale it's demonized.
I've proven it through my OWN PERSONAL EXPERIENCES. You've proven absolutely nothing, and are simply going off of your own moral obligations, not experiences.
And again, talking it out and getting through it with a therapist is not a cop out. Grabbing some drugs and blocking it for a short time is.
Poseidon wrote:
Requesting a move to DST.
Where are those new mods when you need them?Miggle wrote:
Poseidon wrote:
Requesting a move to DST.
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Oh, so you were worried you weren't going to be alive the next day but no, not suicidal? Were you going to spontaneously keel over and some pot would fix that?Poseidon wrote:
Did I say that? They felt me like total shit (correction: BEYOND total shit) but never really suicidal. I know suicide would probably do nothing more than destroy my family, so there's really no point to it. Plus, I've got a future ahead of me and I KNOW that.
You said using an external resource to help is copping out. Using a therapist is as well. In your logic, that's copping out. You can't have it both ways.
If it worked for me, why does it matter to you?
Requesting a move to DST.
You obviously simply don't and never will get it. You have no personal experiences with anything involving this discussion while I do, you talk down to me for getting a temporary fix so I could get myself a long-term solution fix just because I happen to smoke said fix, and you're just generally naive when it comes to weed. As it goes with most of the anti-weed crowd.Defiance wrote:
Oh, so you were worried you weren't going to be alive the next day but no, not suicidal? Were you going to spontaneously keel over and some pot would fix that?Poseidon wrote:
Did I say that? They felt me like total shit (correction: BEYOND total shit) but never really suicidal. I know suicide would probably do nothing more than destroy my family, so there's really no point to it. Plus, I've got a future ahead of me and I KNOW that.
You said using an external resource to help is copping out. Using a therapist is as well. In your logic, that's copping out. You can't have it both ways.
If it worked for me, why does it matter to you?
Requesting a move to DST.
Get over the buzz word, please. It was ambiguous and you're caught on it for no reason. Ignoring the problem with your drastic last resort of pot to keep you breathing for another day is a cop out, dealing with the problem by getting it out to someone else is not.
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If you avoid everything that's bad for you, wouldn't that be better for existence?Ty wrote:
Another not-so-serious suggestion that you can choose to ignore is this: widen your horizons. No alcohol? No nothing? You're going to have a pretty shitty existance if you avoid everything that could possibly be bad for you. Live a little dude!
/facepalmRyan wrote:
If you avoid everything that's bad for you, wouldn't that be better for existence?Ty wrote:
Another not-so-serious suggestion that you can choose to ignore is this: widen your horizons. No alcohol? No nothing? You're going to have a pretty shitty existance if you avoid everything that could possibly be bad for you. Live a little dude!
I mean, if I was a rabbit, I would be avoiding the wolves.
I don't need to bring up my problems, you ought have an idea of how I deal with stress or at least how I don't. I don't judge you as a whole person, I don't know you, what I do judge is one mere action that I don't agree with. Though you seem to be able to recount my life on a whim.Poseidon wrote:
You obviously simply don't and never will get it. You have no personal experiences with anything involving this discussion while I do, you talk down to me for getting a temporary fix so I could get myself a long-term solution fix just because I happen to smoke said fix, and you're just generally naive when it comes to weed. As it goes with most of the anti-weed crowd.
Remember kids, it's only a cop out if it's a plant.
And did I NOT JUST FUCKING SAY THAT I DEALT WITH IT WITH SOMEONE? Holy fucking shit!
You have some kind of fix on the idea that I ONLY used weed to get past my problems which is simply NOT TRUE. And I've said that, and you still fail to realize that.
You had to see your father die in front of your eyes, wait for about 20 agonizing minutes to hear what happened and then finally be told he's actually alive?Defiance wrote:
I don't need to bring up my problems, you ought have an idea of how I deal with stress or at least how I don't. I don't judge you as a whole person, I don't know you, what I do judge is one mere action that I don't agree with. Though you seem to be able to recount my life on a whim.Poseidon wrote:
You obviously simply don't and never will get it. You have no personal experiences with anything involving this discussion while I do, you talk down to me for getting a temporary fix so I could get myself a long-term solution fix just because I happen to smoke said fix, and you're just generally naive when it comes to weed. As it goes with most of the anti-weed crowd.
Remember kids, it's only a cop out if it's a plant.
And did I NOT JUST FUCKING SAY THAT I DEALT WITH IT WITH SOMEONE? Holy fucking shit!
You have some kind of fix on the idea that I ONLY used weed to get past my problems which is simply NOT TRUE. And I've said that, and you still fail to realize that.
And, did you not just fucking say that? No, you did not just fucking say that. The only hint you gave was 'dealing with it directly' and a 'long-term' solution. If you've got some sort of long term fix, all the power to you, but why not deal with it instead of ignoring it for a day?
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