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2008-10-20 15:57:40
max
Vela Incident
+1,652|7163|NYC / Hamburg

FFLink13 wrote:

Mek-Stizzle wrote:

If I could go out and have as much fun whilst being completely sober/not high as I would be if I was wasted/high, I'd actually like that quite alot. So in that sense, maybe I envy you, Link. On the other hand, it's still awesome.
People feel they need to be drunk to have fun, as being drunk "let's you loose" so to say (Not that I'd know, just from what others tell me).

Honestly, I wouldn't be able to let loose and have fun too if everyone around me wasn't drunk, though
I don't drink to get drunk, I just like the taste a lot. Nothing wrong about consuming in limited quantities. It won't have a negative effect on you
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2008-10-20 16:10:32
specops10-4
Member
+108|7339|In the hills
I think its funny how you guys are saying weed and alcohol will corrupt you.  Some of the shit my friends are getting into is scary.  My friend is selling weed and is one of the biggest dealers in my town, he regularly does cocaine and is beginning to sell oxy.  A lot of people I know are heavy onto shrooms, meth and some of them are starting on heroine.  The funny thing is I live in a nice suburban town, and these kids are doing the hardest of the hard drugs.  The worst I've ever done myself was some weed.

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2008-10-20 16:12:21
Stimey
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2008-10-20 16:17:26
Defiance
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Poseidon wrote:

Yes, I'm glad you think you know my situation all so well.

Short fact is, you don't, and fuck you for trying to compare. I'm sorry about what happened to your family as well, but don't try to relate and act like you're some superior person because you got through without something to help. Last year was probably, if not the worst year of my entire life, and my dad having his heart attack was just added onto it. I needed something to calm me down since God knows I couldn't get any help elsewhere, and wanted to prevent myself from doing anything drastic. It worked.

Especially the dog part? Yes, when a faithful companion of 8 years who never left my side while I was home dies in front of my very own eyes, it's "quite uncalled for". Wow. Reeeeeeeally?

It's not these events alone, it's them combined together. If these had happened on their own, I'd be okay most likely and wouldn't have to resort to smoking weed, but they didn't.

Fucking hell.
You didn't resort to anything, you chose to cop out. You got problems, talk. Shit happens and not learning to deal with it won't help you.
2008-10-20 16:20:21
Poseidon
Fudgepack DeQueef
+3,253|7134|Long Island, New York

Defiance wrote:

Poseidon wrote:

Yes, I'm glad you think you know my situation all so well.

Short fact is, you don't, and fuck you for trying to compare. I'm sorry about what happened to your family as well, but don't try to relate and act like you're some superior person because you got through without something to help. Last year was probably, if not the worst year of my entire life, and my dad having his heart attack was just added onto it. I needed something to calm me down since God knows I couldn't get any help elsewhere, and wanted to prevent myself from doing anything drastic. It worked.

Especially the dog part? Yes, when a faithful companion of 8 years who never left my side while I was home dies in front of my very own eyes, it's "quite uncalled for". Wow. Reeeeeeeally?

It's not these events alone, it's them combined together. If these had happened on their own, I'd be okay most likely and wouldn't have to resort to smoking weed, but they didn't.

Fucking hell.
You didn't resort to anything, you chose to cop out. You got problems, talk. Shit happens and not learning to deal with it won't help you.
And I DID deal with them. Weed is NOT my permanent solution. I did it so I could calm down at the MOMENT. I've done it two fucking times and you think I "copped out"?

Wow. Is it really that hard to understand, or are you guys so vehemently anti-weed that it's blocked your rational thoughts out of the discussion?

You guys are so disillusioned with reality, you're coming up on Gatsby rankings about now.
2008-10-20 16:32:36
Defiance
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Poseidon wrote:

And I DID deal with them. Weed is NOT my permanent solution. I did it so I could calm down at the MOMENT. I've done it two fucking times and you think I "copped out"?

Wow. Is it really that hard to understand, or are you guys so vehemently anti-weed that it's blocked your rational thoughts out of the discussion?

You guys are so disillusioned with reality, you're coming up on Gatsby rankings about now.
I don't think it's rational to smoke pot to deal with your emotions, though your perception and actions line up so there's no confusion. You didn't deal with them yourself, you found some external solution. At the time, you did cop out, though it's good you haven't kept it up.

Stress is not handled with THC, you have to deal with it yourself or get it out to someone else. If it were reality to handle stress with drugs, then they'd be prescribed as often as happy pills. Unfortunately, that's just as bad, so at least you've got company in that boat.

Oh, and please, quantify that particular piece of literature. Perhaps you'd remember the last few pages, the ones about taking refuge to avoid responsibility?
2008-10-20 16:36:01
Poseidon
Fudgepack DeQueef
+3,253|7134|Long Island, New York

Defiance wrote:

Poseidon wrote:

And I DID deal with them. Weed is NOT my permanent solution. I did it so I could calm down at the MOMENT. I've done it two fucking times and you think I "copped out"?

Wow. Is it really that hard to understand, or are you guys so vehemently anti-weed that it's blocked your rational thoughts out of the discussion?

You guys are so disillusioned with reality, you're coming up on Gatsby rankings about now.
I don't think it's rational to smoke pot to deal with your emotions, though your perception and actions line up so there's no confusion. You didn't deal with them yourself, you found some external solution. At the time, you did cop out, though it's good you haven't kept it up.

Stress is not handled with THC, you have to deal with it yourself or get it out to someone else. If it were reality to handle stress with drugs, then they'd be prescribed as often as happy pills. Unfortunately, that's just as bad, so at least you've got company in that boat.

Oh, and please, quantify that particular piece of literature. Perhaps you'd remember the last few pages, the ones about taking refuge to avoid responsibility?
So I guess it's not okay to use therapists because they're "external solutions"? Right. Everyone, fuck meds, fuck doctors, fuck psychologists. You can deal with this all yourself, because Defiance said so. I guess anyone who goes to a therapist "cops out" as well.

I wasn't referring to the entire book anyways, I was simply referring how you and the rest of the anti-weed are simply disillusioned with reality, which was a main point of the book.
2008-10-20 16:40:31
Defiance
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Poseidon wrote:

So I guess it's not okay to use therapists because they're "external solutions"? Right. Everyone, fuck meds, fuck doctors, fuck psychologists. You can deal with this all yourself, because Defiance said so. I guess anyone who goes to a therapist "cops out" as well.

I wasn't referring to the entire book anyways, I was simply referring how you and the rest of the anti-weed are simply disillusioned with reality, which was a main point of the book.
Oh no, there's certain things you can't deal with alone. If you're comfortable with a therapist then talking to them would help, though family may be cheaper and more effective. The difference is inhaling a drug to get rid of the problem. The difference is ignoring it or dealing with it. 'External solutions' was a bit ambiguous.

If you think I'm disillusioned, you've yet to prove you're perception is the right one.
2008-10-20 16:43:05
Bevo
Nah
+718|7117|Austin, Texas

Matt^ wrote:

MadKatter wrote:

Shaguart wrote:

OH sorry i guess i cant attepmt to make people laugh at my picture... It was one of my more interesting pictrues and i figured it would be funny to post... BUT apperantly its not very funny because smoking is sooo bad, and i only do it becasue im mr cool right?

and next time take a bit of a closer look, and notice its not weed, but its infact a ciggarette that my brother gave me.
Mmmmkay. Rationalize however you please.

But don't go into a thread with a girl with a serious addiction problem and agree with potheads saying "it's no big deal".
Yeah smoking weed is a serious addiction problem, watch out you might overdose.
Your thread reading skills are remarkable. She clearly has an addictive, attention whore personality. Weed is just a side effect.
2008-10-20 16:45:19
Defiance
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iNeedUrFace4Soup wrote:

Defiance wrote:

-If it were reality to handle stress with drugs, then they'd be prescribed as often as happy pills.
AKA Drugs, so I guess it is reality. Don't demonize one and say the other is ok because it's dispensed legally. They are all drugs.

Yes, true you shouldn't use drugs to cope with stress, but you can and sometimes maybe it is OK.
Way to blatantly take that out of context. "Unfortunately, that's just as bad, so at least you've got company in that boat." I'm demonizing both. I said "happy pills" instead of "anti-depressants" because these drugs are given out casually to anyone who walks in sad on a rainy day. If you have an actual mental problem, you'd need a therapist to diagnose that and if, in their professional opinion, you have a mental problem then I don't argue against medication.
2008-10-20 16:45:53
Poseidon
Fudgepack DeQueef
+3,253|7134|Long Island, New York

Defiance wrote:

Poseidon wrote:

So I guess it's not okay to use therapists because they're "external solutions"? Right. Everyone, fuck meds, fuck doctors, fuck psychologists. You can deal with this all yourself, because Defiance said so. I guess anyone who goes to a therapist "cops out" as well.

I wasn't referring to the entire book anyways, I was simply referring how you and the rest of the anti-weed are simply disillusioned with reality, which was a main point of the book.
Oh no, there's certain things you can't deal with alone. If you're comfortable with a therapist then talking to them would help, though family may be cheaper and more effective. The difference is inhaling a drug to get rid of the problem. The difference is ignoring it or dealing with it. 'External solutions' was a bit ambiguous.

If you think I'm disillusioned, you've yet to prove you're perception is the right one.
No, there's absolutely no difference. If I can smoke weed TWICE to deal with things on a very temporary basis and to just cool me down for the day so I don't do anything drastic and then follow it up by dealing with it directly, there's absolutely nothing wrong with that. If others feel that they can get through it, those are their views. I didn't know what I was going to do next, and I was going to ensure I was still fucking breathing the following day, even if it meant smoking weed.

They're both 'external solutions' in your logic, which are apparentely demonized in your view. Oh wait, no, only if you inhale it's demonized.

I've proven it through my OWN PERSONAL EXPERIENCES. You've proven absolutely nothing, and are simply going off of your own moral obligations, not experiences.

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2008-10-20 16:54:22
bad-man
now say you sorry
+34|6444|one windy city

TheAussieReaper wrote:

Maybe she needs a friend now more than ever
tap it now!!!
2008-10-20 16:59:25
Defiance
Member
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Poseidon wrote:

No, there's absolutely no difference. If I can smoke weed TWICE to deal with things on a very temporary basis and to just cool me down for the day so I don't do anything drastic and then follow it up by dealing with it directly, there's absolutely nothing wrong with that. If others feel that they can get through it, those are their views. I didn't know what I was going to do next, and I was going to ensure I was still fucking breathing the following day, even if it meant smoking weed.

They're both 'external solutions' in your logic, which are apparentely demonized in your view. Oh wait, no, only if you inhale it's demonized.

I've proven it through my OWN PERSONAL EXPERIENCES. You've proven absolutely nothing, and are simply going off of your own moral obligations, not experiences.
Your Dad had a heart attack and you're dog past on. Not that those are anything light, but this made you feel suicidal? Now what the hell would that have done? Absolutely nothing. That is your flawed perception, and I can't help but suggest some help but that's your choice.

And again, talking it out and getting through it with a therapist is not a cop out. Grabbing some drugs and blocking it for a short time is.
2008-10-20 17:04:03
Poseidon
Fudgepack DeQueef
+3,253|7134|Long Island, New York

Defiance wrote:

Poseidon wrote:

No, there's absolutely no difference. If I can smoke weed TWICE to deal with things on a very temporary basis and to just cool me down for the day so I don't do anything drastic and then follow it up by dealing with it directly, there's absolutely nothing wrong with that. If others feel that they can get through it, those are their views. I didn't know what I was going to do next, and I was going to ensure I was still fucking breathing the following day, even if it meant smoking weed.

They're both 'external solutions' in your logic, which are apparentely demonized in your view. Oh wait, no, only if you inhale it's demonized.

I've proven it through my OWN PERSONAL EXPERIENCES. You've proven absolutely nothing, and are simply going off of your own moral obligations, not experiences.
Your Dad had a heart attack and you're dog past on. Not that those are anything light, but this made you feel suicidal? Now what the hell would that have done? Absolutely nothing. That is your flawed perception, and I can't help but suggest some help but that's your choice.

And again, talking it out and getting through it with a therapist is not a cop out. Grabbing some drugs and blocking it for a short time is.
Did I say that? They felt me like total shit (correction: BEYOND total shit) but never really suicidal. I know suicide would probably do nothing more than destroy my family, so there's really no point to it. Plus, I've got a future ahead of me and I KNOW that.

You said using an external resource to help is copping out. Using a therapist is as well. In your logic, that's copping out. You can't have it both ways.

If it worked for me, why does it matter to you?

Requesting a move to DST.
2008-10-20 17:06:05
Miggle
FUCK UBISOFT
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Poseidon wrote:

Requesting a move to DST.
https://i.imgur.com/86fodNE.png
2008-10-20 17:07:12
max
Vela Incident
+1,652|7163|NYC / Hamburg

Miggle wrote:

Poseidon wrote:

Requesting a move to DST.
Where are those new mods when you need them?

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once upon a midnight dreary, while i pron surfed, weak and weary, over many a strange and spurious site of ' hot  xxx galore'. While i clicked my fav'rite bookmark, suddenly there came a warning, and my heart was filled with mourning, mourning for my dear amour, " 'Tis not possible!", i muttered, " give me back my free hardcore!"..... quoth the server, 404.
2008-10-20 17:11:43
Defiance
Member
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Poseidon wrote:

Did I say that? They felt me like total shit (correction: BEYOND total shit) but never really suicidal. I know suicide would probably do nothing more than destroy my family, so there's really no point to it. Plus, I've got a future ahead of me and I KNOW that.

You said using an external resource to help is copping out. Using a therapist is as well. In your logic, that's copping out. You can't have it both ways.

If it worked for me, why does it matter to you?

Requesting a move to DST.
Oh, so you were worried you weren't going to be alive the next day but no, not suicidal? Were you going to spontaneously keel over and some pot would fix that?

Get over the buzz word, please. It was ambiguous and you're caught on it for no reason. Ignoring the problem with your drastic last resort of pot to keep you breathing for another day is a cop out, dealing with the problem by getting it out to someone else is not.
2008-10-20 17:17:42
Poseidon
Fudgepack DeQueef
+3,253|7134|Long Island, New York

Defiance wrote:

Poseidon wrote:

Did I say that? They felt me like total shit (correction: BEYOND total shit) but never really suicidal. I know suicide would probably do nothing more than destroy my family, so there's really no point to it. Plus, I've got a future ahead of me and I KNOW that.

You said using an external resource to help is copping out. Using a therapist is as well. In your logic, that's copping out. You can't have it both ways.

If it worked for me, why does it matter to you?

Requesting a move to DST.
Oh, so you were worried you weren't going to be alive the next day but no, not suicidal? Were you going to spontaneously keel over and some pot would fix that?

Get over the buzz word, please. It was ambiguous and you're caught on it for no reason. Ignoring the problem with your drastic last resort of pot to keep you breathing for another day is a cop out, dealing with the problem by getting it out to someone else is not.
You obviously simply don't and never will get it. You have no personal experiences with anything involving this discussion while I do, you talk down to me for getting a temporary fix so I could get myself a long-term solution fix just because I happen to smoke said fix, and you're just generally naive when it comes to weed. As it goes with most of the anti-weed crowd.

Remember kids, it's only a cop out if it's a plant.

And did I NOT JUST FUCKING SAY THAT I DEALT WITH IT WITH SOMEONE? Holy fucking shit!

You have some kind of fix on the idea that I ONLY used weed to get past my problems which is simply NOT TRUE. And I've said that, and you still fail to realize that.

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2008-10-20 17:19:38
Ryan
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Ty wrote:

Another not-so-serious suggestion that you can choose to ignore is this: widen your horizons. No alcohol? No nothing? You're going to have a pretty shitty existance if you avoid everything that could possibly be bad for you. Live a little dude!
If you avoid everything that's bad for you, wouldn't that be better for existence?
I mean, if I was a rabbit, I would be avoiding the wolves.
2008-10-20 17:22:39
Surgeons
U shud proabbly f off u fat prik
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Ryan wrote:

Ty wrote:

Another not-so-serious suggestion that you can choose to ignore is this: widen your horizons. No alcohol? No nothing? You're going to have a pretty shitty existance if you avoid everything that could possibly be bad for you. Live a little dude!
If you avoid everything that's bad for you, wouldn't that be better for existence?
I mean, if I was a rabbit, I would be avoiding the wolves.
/facepalm

Alcohol doesn't kill you instantly every single time you have it.

If you were a rabbit, a wolf would.
2008-10-20 17:25:09
sportsman11-2cool4u
We can be those mistakes!
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I know (kind of) where Poseidon is coming from. When my uncle died I went balistic about it. Your just in too much shock to realize what your doing. He died  about a year ago and I went into a big shock. My mom took me out of school for a good couple days to calm down. Sure he isn't my dad but he was really close to me. I barely ate during then and I listened to my music and slept pretty much all the time. It's something you can't contain it's too much sometimes..Then another aunt (not his wife) died of lung cancer I learned how to take it this time though. It's just hard to see loved ones go.

RIP Uncle John

RIP Aunt Debbie
2008-10-20 17:29:16
Defiance
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Poseidon wrote:

You obviously simply don't and never will get it. You have no personal experiences with anything involving this discussion while I do, you talk down to me for getting a temporary fix so I could get myself a long-term solution fix just because I happen to smoke said fix, and you're just generally naive when it comes to weed. As it goes with most of the anti-weed crowd.

Remember kids, it's only a cop out if it's a plant.

And did I NOT JUST FUCKING SAY THAT I DEALT WITH IT WITH SOMEONE? Holy fucking shit!

You have some kind of fix on the idea that I ONLY used weed to get past my problems which is simply NOT TRUE. And I've said that, and you still fail to realize that.
I don't need to bring up my problems, you ought have an idea of how I deal with stress or at least how I don't. I don't judge you as a whole person, I don't know you, what I do judge is one mere action that I don't agree with. Though you seem to be able to recount my life on a whim.

And, did you not just fucking say that? No, you did not just fucking say that. The only hint you gave was 'dealing with it directly' and a 'long-term' solution. If you've got some sort of long term fix, all the power to you, but why not deal with it instead of ignoring it for a day?
2008-10-20 17:33:40
Poseidon
Fudgepack DeQueef
+3,253|7134|Long Island, New York

Defiance wrote:

Poseidon wrote:

You obviously simply don't and never will get it. You have no personal experiences with anything involving this discussion while I do, you talk down to me for getting a temporary fix so I could get myself a long-term solution fix just because I happen to smoke said fix, and you're just generally naive when it comes to weed. As it goes with most of the anti-weed crowd.

Remember kids, it's only a cop out if it's a plant.

And did I NOT JUST FUCKING SAY THAT I DEALT WITH IT WITH SOMEONE? Holy fucking shit!

You have some kind of fix on the idea that I ONLY used weed to get past my problems which is simply NOT TRUE. And I've said that, and you still fail to realize that.
I don't need to bring up my problems, you ought have an idea of how I deal with stress or at least how I don't. I don't judge you as a whole person, I don't know you, what I do judge is one mere action that I don't agree with. Though you seem to be able to recount my life on a whim.

And, did you not just fucking say that? No, you did not just fucking say that. The only hint you gave was 'dealing with it directly' and a 'long-term' solution. If you've got some sort of long term fix, all the power to you, but why not deal with it instead of ignoring it for a day?
You had to see your father die in front of your eyes, wait for about 20 agonizing minutes to hear what happened and then finally be told he's actually alive?

Right..

And yes, I do have a long term fix. My education and my career path.

Why not deal with it? Erm, perhaps because I was in the worst emotional state I've ever been in, and dealing with it right then and there would probably have sent me over the edge (and no, not suicidal...)? And by smoking weed and being able to calm down and chill out, I could take the problem directly on sooner?

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2008-10-20 17:37:56
Defiance
Member
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Poseidon wrote:

You had to see your father die in front of your eyes, wait for about 20 agonizing minutes to hear what happened and the finally be told he's okay?

Right..

And yes, I do have a long term fix. My education and my career path.

Why not deal with it? Erm, perhaps because I was in the worst emotional state I've ever been in, and dealing with it right then and there would probably have sent me over the edge (and no, not suicidal...)? And by smoking weed and being able to calm down and chill out, I could take the problem directly on sooner?
You're situation wasn't so special, heart attacks happen every day. If you were a nervous wreck for those 20 minutes, I can't blame you in the least, but after those 20 minutes you should have been relieved. No need to be hung up on it.

Having your father almost die, and your pet pass on, is not something that is dealt with over your lifetime. What's your problem with this? Talk to someone now about it, I don't know why it's still troubling you. Yes, it was traumatizing. But yes, move on.
2008-10-20 17:39:58
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If you go out far away in space, sure, we're all just a little blue dot.
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